23 December 2016

Ask RiotACT: Dogs banned at Yarralumla Bay beach area?

| Steve Chivers
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Dog ban Yarralumla

The beach at Yarralumla Bay (the long one with the swimming enclosures and pontoons) is favourite for my dog and I, as well as many other pet owners, families, and tourists. I hadn’t been there for a few weeks, however yesterday was shown this sign by a contracting type fella cleaning up the beach, who told me it was only put up that morning (19/12/16). He was amicable and was as confused about the signage as I was. Several other people with their dogs came down that day, all parking at the opposite end and were probably unaware of the signage.

This is a great multi-use spot, as its never busy during the week, and is relatively isolated from traffic. My dog and I go down several times a week usually, and I have never noticed any negative impacts from the presence of dogs (i.e. excessive dog poo, nor dogs misbehaving around frightened strangers). In my experience, most people who bother to drive their dogs down there are also responsible owners. The only thing I could think of was perhaps there was some one-off incident (someone got bowled over or bitten), or there were several complaints over a long period from people who were getting splashed by happy dogs.

Anyone know why the government banned dogs from here, and whether it is permanent or not (the signs don’t seem that permanent)?

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bruce_lord said :

No dogs allowed at Lake Burley Griffin, no humans allowed at Lake Tuggeranong, what next for our public recreation places?

Without people and/or dogs using those public recreation space, I think they should be redeveloped and infilled. We are sorely in need of more leggo land jerry built high rise cement boxes and more over priced hipster coffee shops/eateries.

Also, might make the passenger numbers in the business case for Tram – if there was such a thing for tram stage 2 – marginally better.

bruce_lord said :

No dogs allowed at Lake Burley Griffin, no humans allowed at Lake Tuggeranong, what next for our public recreation places?

High density villages and tram depots?

Why has a sign prohibiting dogs at a previously dog permitted area been placed without notice, explanation or community consultation?
Being able to walk your dog down to the lake from the local dog park for a swim is an enjoyable human and canine activity.
What harm does it cause and why stop it?
It might seem like a small and insignificant matter, but when small and insignificant impositions and restrictions are happening all around us then cumulatively they amount to an erosion of civil liberties.
Mock if you like, but I suspect it is exactly this sort of petty government action that makes ordinary people irritated enough to vote for the likes of Trump and Hanson.

No dogs allowed at Lake Burley Griffin, no humans allowed at Lake Tuggeranong, what next for our public recreation places?

wildturkeycanoe6:41 am 24 Dec 16

Acton said :

So a complaint to the nanny state was made resulting in the dispatch of the fun police armed with a Big Red Sign.

If it were that simple cyclists would’ve had big red signs posted on major roads advising them they were “Cyclist Prohibited Areas”.
It only takes a few people to ruin something for everyone. If anywhere should be banned for dog walking it should be sports ovals. I have seen irresponsible dog owners let their off leash pooch disrupt actual sporting events such as junior cricket, soccer practice etc. When there are people playing or practicing sports, dogs should be on the leash, but few dog owners follow this rule. Do you know what it is like for a parent to see a stereo-typically vicious breed with a huge head and massive teeth come trundling towards your children whilst the owner is screaming at the top of their lungs for the beast to return to them? I’ve had the misfortune of seeing my own child get bitten by a supposedly “friendly” family pet before, so when a strange dog is running at them during cricket training and the owner can’t control them, stress levels go through the roof.
Sports grounds are also places where kids roll around, slide and lie down on the grass. It is disgusting to find dog poo littering the soccer pitch before an under 8’s match, with nothing available with which to clean up after the turd that put it there. Parks and gardens staff aren’t around 24 hours a day to police these things, so what is the solution? Ban dogs from sports grounds altogether? Why not? It took a single human being to ban rapid fire semi-automatic firearms in Australia. It took protests from dog owners to ban fireworks sales to the public. It only took some well-doing public servants to make unregistered motorcycling in state forests illegal, to put a toll on recreational fishing, to make it compulsory to wear a helmet on a bicycle and so many more nanny state rules that ruin the fun for everyone.
People swim [at their own risk] in Lake Burley Griffin, which often means wearing no shoes and dumping your belongings on the grass. If dogs are leaving their little brown surprises on the ground [which is completely plausible even though the OP said there weren’t any], it can ruin ones fun in the sun. If you are lying down sun-baking, a dog off the leash is tempted to come over and have a sniff of your face, that is indisputable. Imagine this happening just after they’ve been in the water for a paddle [Eeew!] If there is more than one place on the banks of the lake for this activity, why not segregate dogs from the general public to avoid nasty incidents? I just can’t understand why dog owners feel so entitled that their beloved pets need to have the exact same facilities as humans. Some people are terrified of dogs, some have allergies, so why should they have to forego a leisure activity because of a pet owner’s sense of entitlement to every and any space they want?

Maryann Mussared7:26 pm 23 Dec 16

mountainman said :

I remember seeing a sign that was pretty similar earlier in the year. The explanation I got was there were nesting birds in the area. The signs were removed after about 6 weeks. These signs look to be a bit more permanent in nature though? Just give Access Canberra a call – 132281.

I was down at the Yacht Club last Sunday evening. It was very busy and few unsupervised children with sticks and large pebbles pelting a beautiful black swan after it was enticed to the lake wall. I would like some signs down there to remind parents of their responsibilities regarding supervising their children near protected species. I blame the parents, not the children. I should add, it was a lovely evening and I so enjoyed seeing so many families out in full force enjoying a lovely lakeside setting.

Somebody saw owners and dogs enjoying a happy doggy swimming area. That’s not allowed and must be stopped. Or maybe a seagull got scared. Or a cyclist had to slow down. So a complaint to the nanny state was made resulting in the dispatch of the fun police armed with a Big Red Sign.

Reminds me of another sign outside the Fox & Bow at the Farrrer shops. Canberra is all about making the meek and mild populace obey signs.

Just ignore it. What sign? Oh really. I came from the other side and didn’t see it.
http://www.canberradogwalks.com.au/canberra-dog-swimming-areas/#yarralumla

I remember seeing a sign that was pretty similar earlier in the year. The explanation I got was there were nesting birds in the area. The signs were removed after about 6 weeks. These signs look to be a bit more permanent in nature though? Just give Access Canberra a call – 132281.

Without any explanation from the powers that be, this is really frustrating. I also take my dog there for a splash and have never had any troubles. You’re right, there is never any poo laying around and everyone gets along well.

Uriarra is dog off-leash and a nice spot the majority of the time, but for dogs who are still learning recall and manners, local spots are way more suitable.

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