Australian Federal Police officer escapes traffic fine - "traffic was light"

vg said :

ExFeds 1 and 2

I ask again. Please answer.

What is your ‘ex-Fed’ nature, which you award yourselves by virute of your RA moniker? Are you indeed ex members, sworn or unsworn, of the AFP? This is important for your own veracity.

With all of your insight and apparent intelligence one wuld have thought you could have worked this one out all on your own. It is not that hard.

BTW I suspect you are in the job for more than one reason, can you confirm?

Also….. With a reaction time of 0.5sec in a modern good mechanical new working car at 120km/h is ridiculous….
If a child had run out on the road say 60 meters ahead then they would have been killed.

The reaction distance would have been 17 meters with a dry road stop of 108 meters meaning that the driver wouldn’t have stopped for 125 meters!

ExFeds 1 and 2

I ask again. Please answer.

What is your ‘ex-Fed’ nature, which you award yourselves by virute of your RA moniker? Are you indeed ex members, sworn or unsworn, of the AFP? This is important for your own veracity.

Sorry if this has already been said – I got on in this late but…..

“Certified police vehicle speedometer
All police vehicles used for traffic enforcement in the ACT are fitted with incremental speedometers which are regularly checked and certified for their accuracy.

A police officer can check the speed of a target vehicle either by following the target vehicle (maintaining a constant distance behind the vehicle), or traveling adjacent to the vehicle.

Using a certified police speedometer is one of the original forms of speed checking carried out by police in the ACT.”
http://www.police.act.gov.au/roads-and-traffic/speeding.aspx#Certifiedpolicevehiclespeedometer

So if all police vehicles used for traffic enforcement have certified speedo’s and this officer was conducting traffic enforcement then the ACT Police website is telling lies.
I would assume that all AFP vehicles in general duties and traffic would fall under this category as they are the ones enforcing traffic daily….

LIESSSS!!!!!

And I can speak from experience because I used to live in Strathgordon court.

You poor bugger

exfed2 said :

Spideydog have you been reading all of this with your eyes shut? Has nothing to do with the junior member having an issue with it or not. In order to have been put before the court like your splendid suggestion, A TIN needed to be issued then contested in court.

But we all know this did not happen because ‘allegedly’ the junior member was presured into issuing a caution. Which highlights the ‘fact’ that Mr Grimm must have admitted to the offence as this is a requirement for a caution to be issued.

Your post meant……………..

My eyes are very much open m8. You do not have to issue a TIN for it then to be disputed and then it can go to court. An officer can put the matter before the court without the need to issue an infringement.

Spideydog have you been reading all of this with your eyes shut? Has nothing to do with the junior member having an issue with it or not. In order to have been put before the court like your splendid suggestion, A TIN needed to be issued then contested in court.

But we all know this did not happen because ‘allegedly’ the junior member was presured into issuing a caution. Which highlights the ‘fact’ that Mr Grimm must have admitted to the offence as this is a requirement for a caution to be issued.

Your post meant……………..

Special G said :

Exfeds 1 or 2 (bit like farqant really) – can you confirm speed check with an uncertified speedo? Maybe the advice that was given was correct – not much chance of a conviction in Court. In which case Grimm shouldn’t have been issued a caution either.

Exactly. If he really had an issue with it, it should have been put before the court to determine guilt in the offence. Other than that, all you are putting forward, is an allegation.

exfed2 said :

Tooks said :

BTW, tell me exfeds and exfeds2 aren’t the same person.

Not the same person. There you go Tooks. And Buzzy rather appear than to actually be 🙂

Yeah that doesn’t convince me. It doesn’t really matter anyway – was just an observation.

fgzk said :

“In reality, Exfeds trivialises serious corruption by calling a speeding offence “Corruption at its best”.”

Corruption is corruption and I think that this case fits the description.

The police force seems to be able to bully, deflect, mislead and trivialises any serious corruption before the public gets to hear about it. Of course it may not even exist. Police are such lovely people.

More assumptions based on – nothing?

Exfeds 1 or 2 (bit like farqant really) – can you confirm speed check with an uncertified speedo? Maybe the advice that was given was correct – not much chance of a conviction in Court. In which case Grimm shouldn’t have been issued a caution either.

Traffic was light so I broke the sound barrier.

Grimm should quit. If he can’t live according to the law, he can’t enforce it.

ExFeds said :

Tooks said :

BTW, tell me exfeds and exfeds2 aren’t the same person. Same writing style, same rage against the AFP, same lack of comprehension skills, same unfounded allegations of corruption. Notice how they use the same insult against the person who used it against them? I did.

Tooks: this story is about a member of Police off duty getting out of a high speed fine when he didn’t admit the action and PRS letting it go on the basis that the traffic was light…what has your inference of similar writing style got to do with me and this Exfed2 character…NOT THE SAME PERSON – Hooning at 43km/h over grow up.

Therapy: you need it.

And as I’ve said before, I agree that anyone speeding at 40kmh over the limit should receive a TIN.

My issue with you is that you’re coming out with some inaccurate information based on assumptions. But feel free to let this issue consume your life.

If he was charged with anti-hooning laws, would they crush the police car into a cube?

“In reality, Exfeds trivialises serious corruption by calling a speeding offence “Corruption at its best”.”

Corruption is corruption and I think that this case fits the description.

The police force seems to be able to bully, deflect, mislead and trivialises any serious corruption before the public gets to hear about it. Of course it may not even exist. Police are such lovely people.

The AFP is corruption free. If any one says different then they are wankers.

Tooks said :

BTW, tell me exfeds and exfeds2 aren’t the same person. Same writing style, same rage against the AFP, same lack of comprehension skills, same unfounded allegations of corruption. Notice how they use the same insult against the person who used it against them? I did.

Tooks: this story is about a member of Police off duty getting out of a high speed fine when he didn’t admit the action and PRS letting it go on the basis that the traffic was light…what has your inference of similar writing style got to do with me and this Exfed2 character…NOT THE SAME PERSON – Hooning at 43km/h over grow up.

Tooks said :

BTW, tell me exfeds and exfeds2 aren’t the same person.

Not the same person. There you go Tooks. And Buzzy rather appear than to actually be 🙂

Spideydog said :

Jethro said :

Special G said :

I nominate Exfeds for the Mully cup for October. Angry punctuation, capitals with a smiley face and flogging a dead horse with this topic – both stories (commenting on it after days of no discussion in an attempt to bring it back).

Take a deep breath – woooo saaaa

Why are there two exfeds? Am I coming late to some party?

He has multiple personalities………

It just appears that both personalities are wankers, who’d have thought…

I have no problems with people having a go at any public department, private department or Police force. Obviously Mr Curie has a problem that he should go talk to someone about.

…

BTW, tell me exfeds and exfeds2 aren’t the same person. Same writing style, same rage against the AFP, same lack of comprehension skills, same unfounded allegations of corruption. Notice how they use the same insult against the person who used it against them? I did.

exfed2 said :

Tooks, I’ll KISS

You said,

‘Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.’

By being sarcastic and calling a high speed traffic offence a ‘travesty of justice’ it appears you are suggesting that it is trivial.

When exfeds stated, THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING! I see no other reference than to Mr Grim escaping fine/points/conviction or all. It’s quite simple a caution would never have been issued had Mr Grimm not been guilty of this offence. Yes thats right offence.

Talk about penny dropping

OMFG. I’ve never felt the need to talk down to anyone on this site like I have with you.

You missed the point I was making. I know what point I was making – you can only interpret (or misinterpret it, as it seems). Maybe my point was lost on everyone else who read it too, and if that’s the case, obviously I could have made it clearer.

In reality, Exfeds trivialises serious corruption by calling a speeding offence “Corruption at its best”.

Not going to continue this particular argument with you anymore. I know what I meant and I know what meaning I was trying to convey.

On another point, you need to proofread your comments before posting. That second paragraph doesn’t make sense and is poorly written, in much the same way your namesake’s comments are.

Jethro said :

Special G said :

I nominate Exfeds for the Mully cup for October. Angry punctuation, capitals with a smiley face and flogging a dead horse with this topic – both stories (commenting on it after days of no discussion in an attempt to bring it back).

Take a deep breath – woooo saaaa

Why are there two exfeds? Am I coming late to some party?

He has multiple personalities………

Tooks, I’ll KISS

You said,

‘Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.’

By being sarcastic and calling a high speed traffic offence a ‘travesty of justice’ it appears you are suggesting that it is trivial.

When exfeds stated, THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING! I see no other reference than to Mr Grim escaping fine/points/conviction or all. It’s quite simple a caution would never have been issued had Mr Grimm not been guilty of this offence. Yes thats right offence.

Talk about penny dropping

Jethro said :

Special G said :

I nominate Exfeds for the Mully cup for October. Angry punctuation, capitals with a smiley face and flogging a dead horse with this topic – both stories (commenting on it after days of no discussion in an attempt to bring it back).

Take a deep breath – woooo saaaa

Why are there two exfeds? Am I coming late to some party?

Suprised that there is more than one person that knows about the true AFP and thinks it is about time something is said or done. Where there is one there is sure to be more, and I thin ka lot more than two.

Special G said :

I nominate Exfeds for the Mully cup for October. Angry punctuation, capitals with a smiley face and flogging a dead horse with this topic – both stories (commenting on it after days of no discussion in an attempt to bring it back).

Take a deep breath – woooo saaaa

Why are there two exfeds? Am I coming late to some party?

buzz819 said :

ExFeds said :

Have the AFP denied the article as they did the last one published? NOPE!

Maybe the quotes in the Herald Sun are accurate.

TOOKS: are you suggesting that the information here is not Corrupt but falls within the core values of FAIRNESS, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMMITMENT, EXCELLENCE, INTEGRITY & TRUST…Spare us the BS! Can’t help you didn’t make the grade “DOLT” 🙂

When are you going to man up and say that you are the nut job Richard Curie… Come on just do it, then everyone can ask the questions, like, “Why were you REALLY given the sack from the AFP? What are the WHOLE reason’s, is it cause you’re a nut job?”

What you should of done is just sent him to court to have it thrown out there..

Gee Buzz, you sound angry. Why is that? A little to close to home? Come on ‘Man up’ and let everyone your in the job and just don’t like hearing anything bad about the AFP even if it may in fact be true. Real traits of a ‘man’ right there.

Have the AFP denied the article as they did the last one published? NOPE!

Dude, rather than being a complete nob on riotact, how about filing an official complaint with the ombudsman or equivalent authority.

Please feel free to repost the reply here.

A complaint has been lodged with ACLEI but only a true nob would not see that that in the heading for this thread there is a link to another thread on the matter. And that a complaint has been lodged. By the way a reply was received today. Nothing interesting just an acknowledgement after three weeks.

Have the AFP denied the article as they did the last one published? NOPE!

Dude, rather than being a complete nob on riotact, how about filing an official complaint with the ombudsman or equivalent authority.

Please feel free to repost the reply here.

+1

ExFeds said :

Buzz / Special G (why haha) I rekon Darwin awards would be better suited and that goes for anyone thinking of ever joining the AFP!

Sour grapes is all I smell here, move along, nothing more to see here.

ExFeds said :

Buzz / Special G (why haha) I rekon Darwin awards would be better suited and that goes for anyone thinking of ever joining the AFP!

You need to get on with your life and find a new career you enjoy. All this hate inside cannot be good for you mentally. I’m not even taking the piss when I say that. You are going to take years off your life.

exfed2 said :

Tooks said :

exfed2 said :

Tooks said :

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.

So an offcier stealing a chocolate bar would be of the same minor nature as this then eh? How it always starts. Denial, trivialising the offence. Point is an offence was committed, hell an offence that in NSW you would more than likely be arrested for. Would you be arrested for stealing a chocolate bar? Not really so it’s OK for cops to steal things as long as it is minor…….. thats my point where does it end?

Congratulations on also missing the point…completely. Bravo to you, sir.

Ahh no I didn’t. As any educated person can see you were trying to make this matter seem trivial as in the SA comment

‘Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.’

So in summary I feel my post was well constructed in pointing out certain issues. So double Bravo to you Mr Tooks 🙂

What is the SA comment?

Sorry, mate, but yes you did miss the point. Why not accuse Exfeds of ridiculous overstatement (“THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!”). That’s what I was taking the piss out of. JUST THAT COMMENT. I can’t explain it any simpler, even though I get the feeling the penny still won’t drop.

Neither you, or your nutter mate Exfeds can prove there was any corruption. Until you do, you both look like a couple of fruitcakes. And no boys, an article in the Herald Sun (lol) is not proof. Suspicion is not proof, but feel free to keep flogging this dead horse (which by now is a mouldy pile of bones).

Buzz / Special G (why haha) I rekon Darwin awards would be better suited and that goes for anyone thinking of ever joining the AFP!

ExFeds said :

Have the AFP denied the article as they did the last one published? NOPE!

Maybe the quotes in the Herald Sun are accurate.

TOOKS: are you suggesting that the information here is not Corrupt but falls within the core values of FAIRNESS, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMMITMENT, EXCELLENCE, INTEGRITY & TRUST…Spare us the BS! Can’t help you didn’t make the grade “DOLT” 🙂

No, don’t put words in my mouth. You were talking about corruption – I made my comment based on that. There’s only one person here that doesn’t quite make the grade, champion (I bet you had to look up that ‘d’ word).

I nominate Exfeds for the Mully cup for October. Angry punctuation, capitals with a smiley face and flogging a dead horse with this topic – both stories (commenting on it after days of no discussion in an attempt to bring it back).

Take a deep breath – woooo saaaa

ExFeds said :

Have the AFP denied the article as they did the last one published? NOPE!

Maybe the quotes in the Herald Sun are accurate.

TOOKS: are you suggesting that the information here is not Corrupt but falls within the core values of FAIRNESS, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMMITMENT, EXCELLENCE, INTEGRITY & TRUST…Spare us the BS! Can’t help you didn’t make the grade “DOLT” 🙂

When are you going to man up and say that you are the nut job Richard Curie… Come on just do it, then everyone can ask the questions, like, “Why were you REALLY given the sack from the AFP? What are the WHOLE reason’s, is it cause you’re a nut job?”

What you should of done is just sent him to court to have it thrown out there..

vg said :

“thats my point where does it end?”

Seemingly never for you and a couple of others.

You can’t defend them forever ol VG. You might realise that one day

Tooks said :

exfed2 said :

Tooks said :

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.

So an offcier stealing a chocolate bar would be of the same minor nature as this then eh? How it always starts. Denial, trivialising the offence. Point is an offence was committed, hell an offence that in NSW you would more than likely be arrested for. Would you be arrested for stealing a chocolate bar? Not really so it’s OK for cops to steal things as long as it is minor…….. thats my point where does it end?

Congratulations on also missing the point…completely. Bravo to you, sir.

Ahh no I didn’t. As any educated person can see you were trying to make this matter seem trivial as in the SA comment

‘Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.’

So in summary I feel my post was well constructed in pointing out certain issues. So double Bravo to you Mr Tooks 🙂

Have the AFP denied the article as they did the last one published? NOPE!

Maybe the quotes in the Herald Sun are accurate.

TOOKS: are you suggesting that the information here is not Corrupt but falls within the core values of FAIRNESS, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMMITMENT, EXCELLENCE, INTEGRITY & TRUST…Spare us the BS! Can’t help you didn’t make the grade “DOLT” 🙂

Lewis Hamilton is a better driver than any Australian (Mark hasn’t won the championship yet) but he copped a fine for ‘losing control’of his borrowed Merc in Melbourne.

Tooks said :

ExFeds said :

Tooks:

Are you suggesting the this is an acceptable outcome and not corrupt?

If you can prove corruption, then I’m all ears.

What is this “proof” you speak of ……. It’s a media report, its all the proof you need.

Me no fry said :

Oh, for God’s sake, I can see I haven’t phrased it correctly. Here goes (warning – old man alert: details may be 100% accurate). Prior to 1980, NSW (and other states? not sure) used to have roads on which there was no set speed limit….

NSW still has such signs in the occasional place. My understanding is that it means the limit is by default the state limit, which is 100km/h, although such signs are usually seen on random windy dirt roads where that would only be a comfortable speed on the occasional straight bit. Which more or less makes them the same as what you were talking about.

ExFeds said :

Tooks:

Are you suggesting the this is an acceptable outcome and not corrupt?

If you can prove corruption, then I’m all ears.

p1 said :

Ahhh, so overtaking was an excuse for speeding before speed limits?

Keh?

Oh, for God’s sake, I can see I haven’t phrased it correctly. Here goes (warning – old man alert: details may be 100% accurate). Prior to 1980, NSW (and other states? not sure) used to have roads on which there was no set speed limit. This was indicated by a sign showing a black circle on a white background with a black slash through it. As I recall it, while there was no limit the police could book you for speeding if you exceeded 80 km/h, and you could plead your case in court. You would have to be speeding in a most egregious manner before most cops would even bother.

I think in those days there were only 3 speed limits: 60, 80 and derestricted – a bit different to today, with 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 and 110.

Ahhh, so overtaking was an excuse for speeding before speed limits?

Keh?

p1 said :

vg said :

Me no fry said :

Anna Key said :

What happened to there is no such thing as safe speeding?

Anyone who has ever overtaken another car knows that that is just pure bullshit anyway. You speed up to minimise the amount of time you’re on the wrong side of the road – it used to be a legitimate defence to a speeding fine.

No it didn’t

It probably was, before radar and breathos, when you were right to drive, so long as you could hold yourself upright in the seat….

Yes, that’s how far back I meant, in the days of derestricted speed limits (pre 1980, if memory serves).

exfed2 said :

Tooks said :

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.

So an offcier stealing a chocolate bar would be of the same minor nature as this then eh? How it always starts. Denial, trivialising the offence. Point is an offence was committed, hell an offence that in NSW you would more than likely be arrested for. Would you be arrested for stealing a chocolate bar? Not really so it’s OK for cops to steal things as long as it is minor…….. thats my point where does it end?

Congratulations on also missing the point…completely. Bravo to you, sir.

vg said :

Me no fry said :

Anna Key said :

What happened to there is no such thing as safe speeding?

Anyone who has ever overtaken another car knows that that is just pure bullshit anyway. You speed up to minimise the amount of time you’re on the wrong side of the road – it used to be a legitimate defence to a speeding fine.

No it didn’t

It probably was, before radar and breathos, when you were right to drive, so long as you could hold yourself upright in the seat….

Me no fry said :

Anna Key said :

What happened to there is no such thing as safe speeding?

Anyone who has ever overtaken another car knows that that is just pure bullshit anyway. You speed up to minimise the amount of time you’re on the wrong side of the road – it used to be a legitimate defence to a speeding fine.

No it didn’t

Perhaps the issue is that in NSW the rule is (or at least used to be) that more than 30km/h over the limit meant automatic license disqualification.

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

You might be right there, ExFed.

Have to say it’s CORRUPTION AT ITS WORST that I fear the most.

Anna Key said :

What happened to there is no such thing as safe speeding?

Anyone who has ever overtaken another car knows that that is just pure bullshit anyway. You speed up to minimise the amount of time you’re on the wrong side of the road – it used to be a legitimate defence to a speeding fine.

“thats my point where does it end?”

Seemingly never for you and a couple of others.

bigred said :

I would like to know who leaked the documents to the Herald-Sun, noting they were not obtained under FoI.?

Yes bigred very interesting. Because the only real source of PRS documents would be…….. you guessed it, PRS 🙂

No doubt the AFP will attempt to hang Mr Curie in alleging that it was he who leaked said docs. OK so a junior member (now ex member) who would have no chance on earth of getting his hands on them. So Tooks would that kind of behaviour be more fitting to your royal commission requirements?

Tooks said :

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.

So an offcier stealing a chocolate bar would be of the same minor nature as this then eh? How it always starts. Denial, trivialising the offence. Point is an offence was committed, hell an offence that in NSW you would more than likely be arrested for. Would you be arrested for stealing a chocolate bar? Not really so it’s OK for cops to steal things as long as it is minor…….. thats my point where does it end?

georgesgenitals said :

Does the officer in question have to pay FBT on withdrawn TINs?

Funniest post I’ve seen in a while. 🙂

Does the officer in question have to pay FBT on withdrawn TINs?

Tooks:

Are you suggesting the this is an acceptable outcome and not corrupt?

1- No admission to speeding offence by driver.
2- Caution issued for excessive speed.
3- Lanyard placed over neck whilst off duty.
4- PRS accept Ghirardello’s comments as the out to the saga.

You try pulling on that the traffic was light and your a good driver, not doubting your ability, when detected at 40+ over the limit.

You asked why this TIN was withdrawn? The AFP.gov.au states “Specifically the article alleges that the speeding fine was downgraded to a traffic caution notice”, was a TIN ever issued? No doubt we will eventually learn the full story as time passes!

And this is news?

In the U.S. police get a special emblem to put on there license plate so when they are parked illegally the cop sees it when writing the ticket and knows he will have to rip that ticket up.

Anna Key said :

Tooks said :

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.

Yes, he was only a little bit illegal. What happened to there is no such thing as safe speeding?

I now wish I argued my last fine (fixed speed camera – 88 in an 80 zone) by stating that I was the only car in the immediate vicinity, I am an experienced driver, I was driving a new car with a 5 star safety rating and I have good car control due to racing experience. So there was no danger to me or anyone else.

I think you missed my point – completely. I was having a dig at exfeds ridiculous statement that it was corruption at its best. Anyway…

You can argue any fine you want, but unless you have a legitimate reason disputing liability, it’s generall up to the issuing officer whether or not you receive any leniency (and before anyone says “But what about Grimm!?” – read the next paragraph first).

Like I said in the other related thread, it is a fair question to ask why this TIN was withdrawn, and it would certainly be interesting to know the full story.

Tooks said :

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.

Yes, he was only a little bit illegal. What happened to there is no such thing as safe speeding?

I now wish I argued my last fine (fixed speed camera – 88 in an 80 zone) by stating that I was the only car in the immediate vicinity, I am an experienced driver, I was driving a new car with a 5 star safety rating and I have good car control due to racing experience. So there was no danger to me or anyone else.

I would like to know who leaked the documents to the Herald-Sun, noting they were not obtained under FoI. That aside, Grimmgate seems to undermine any pretence the AFP diligently carries out its traffic duties. Oh yes, is Grimm out of a job yet? Or have they closed ranks?

ExFeds said :

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Yep, the Wood Royal Commission pales into insignifance compared to this travesty of justice.

ExFeds said :

Non certified Police vehicles used for years taking money from us! CORRUPT
Police double standards, good driver with light traffic, PRS accept this! CORRUPT
Grimm denies speeding yet a caution is issued! CORRUPT
Constable Curie is inexperienced at speed checks, how many had he done before Grimm?
AFP quick to defend last Herald Sun release containing an alleged err in the topic, where is the latest post on the BlueLine of CORRUPTION?
Why did Grimm put a lanyard on his neck when he was ‘off duty’?
What happened to members estimating the offending vehicles speed regardless of speedos?
If we denying the travelled speed 43+km/h, mention the traffic was light and sook to a Senior member of Police, will we get off?
What has the fact that the offending driver was a trained surveillance office relevant?
What exactly did PRS investigate?
Are there times during the day that it is safe to speed?
Should drivers be issued with caution notices if detected by Police vehicle with non-certified speedos?

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

So when you were doing a speed check on him, how far away from him and how long did you follow him for? Did you see him put the lanyard on his neck?

How many speed checks had you conducted at that time?

Non certified Police vehicles used for years taking money from us! CORRUPT
Police double standards, good driver with light traffic, PRS accept this! CORRUPT
Grimm denies speeding yet a caution is issued! CORRUPT
Constable Curie is inexperienced at speed checks, how many had he done before Grimm?
AFP quick to defend last Herald Sun release containing an alleged err in the topic, where is the latest post on the BlueLine of CORRUPTION?
Why did Grimm put a lanyard on his neck when he was ‘off duty’?
What happened to members estimating the offending vehicles speed regardless of speedos?
If we denying the travelled speed 43+km/h, mention the traffic was light and sook to a Senior member of Police, will we get off?
What has the fact that the offending driver was a trained surveillance office relevant?
What exactly did PRS investigate?
Are there times during the day that it is safe to speed?
Should drivers be issued with caution notices if detected by Police vehicle with non-certified speedos?

THIS IS CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST – DISAPPOINTING!

Excellent. I’ll use that next time I’m done.

depends if he had made his quota for the day….

It’s not WHAT you know…

ConanOfCooma said :

I don’t think we can associate this bad attirbute with all AFP officers, surely?

Not the speeding. The question is the getting out of the fine. I got done 35km/h over limit, clear sunny day light traffic, and the cops took great pains to emphasise how serious an offence it was. I don’t hold being caught and fined against them (was doing it after all), but am a little miffed at how this dude got away with it.

In all fairness, I was pinged doing 20 Ks over on the highway near Hume, and I only recieved a caution in the mail (no, not the speed camera, I was actually pulled over).

Mind you, I wasn’t a dick about it, I admitted what I was doing, and I also aknowledged there was no excuse.

I don’t think we can associate this bad attirbute with all AFP officers, surely?

Not fairly, anywayz.

I have lots of experience speeding, I should be let off too.

Wait, what?

Reckon we’ll see a whole raft of questions directed at officers who pull mortorists over for speeding from now on:

“Is your vehicle a speed certified one?”
“In your opinion is the traffic light?”
“If so would you say my inadvertant lapse in concentration is unlikely to represent a danger to fellow road users?”
“Are you aware of any other driver in a similar situation who was issued a caution despite being in a high range speed offence?

etc