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Kingsley’s Weston Creek fights the banhammer

By 21 April 2012 30

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Tr0jan has sent in the latest prohibition notice sighting, this time slugging Kinglsey’s Weston Creek outlet.

But it seems the purveyors of “awesome chips” are not taking this lying down.

Tweeter Gavin Tapp has posted their retort:

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Personally I’d prefer they fix their tiles and operate to a higher standard.

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30 Responses to Kingsley’s Weston Creek fights the banhammer
#1
c_c3:22 pm, 21 Apr 12

Weston Creek by the way is the Head store of the chain, where the head office is located, so no getting out of this one by saying they didn’t know, it was the franchise owner’s fault.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, why are hospitality owners all so nuts? It’s as if they all aspire to conform to the Basil Fawlty Type.

The MD of Kingsley’s is renowned for being a nutter so this is nothing new. Can do no wrong, always right, always down trodden. It seems to be the standard for hospitality owners and given the trust the public must place in them it’s a disgusting attitude.

I’m very surprised no KFCs have been closed down yet. I expected them to be among the first ones. I’m not surprised though that Kingsley’s has been pinged. Something I’ve never found in prepared chicken products before is feathers. It suggests poor preparation, either by the store or the supplier. Regardless, while it may not be a health issue, it is lazy and unpalatable.

#2
johnboy3:31 pm, 21 Apr 12

KFC would have in-house inspectors, those guys are bastard coated bastards and much tougher than any government inspector (which is good)

#3
screaming banshee3:51 pm, 21 Apr 12

Yeah the few KFC kitchens I’ve been in have been pretty clean, the fact they use the crumbs that fall to the cool zone of the fryer in the gravy mix is not so much a public health issue than an example of the low standards of ‘fast food’

#4
chewy143:59 pm, 21 Apr 12

Hmmm,
I used to know someone who worked at this store and from the stories they tell this is completely unsurprising.

#5
c_c4:03 pm, 21 Apr 12

johnboy said :

KFC would have in-house inspectors, those guys are bastard coated bastards and much tougher than any government inspector (which is good)

They certainly have that system, d I believe Maccas does too, and yet both KFC and Maccas make consistent appearances on the NSW Registrar.

Maccas currently has 2, KFC 3 stores, with the Yass store having two separate offence notices at once at the moment.

In fact the Notices currently issues to the Yass KFC are some of the worst I’ve seen in terms of number of faults recorded:
http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/penalty-notices/default.aspx?template=detail&itemId=3049996429
http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/penalty-notices/default.aspx?template=detail&itemId=3049996410

Temperature failure, cleanliness failure, defective fittings, seals and surfaces.

#6
stonedwookie6:03 pm, 21 Apr 12

@johnboy you cant be serious?
larger companys get off becuase they pay off the inspectors ever been into a mcdonalds or kfc kitchen?
i can tell you ive seen food and dirt all over there floors from the counter and these places never get shutdown its cuase they have mega bucks to appeal and fight any legal battle thrown at them plus the pay off’s.

#7
dvaey6:32 pm, 21 Apr 12

stonedwookie said :

… ever been into a mcdonalds or kfc kitchen?
i can tell you ive seen food and dirt all over there floors from the counter

I used to work at a fast-food place, and Ive no doubt if an inspector came in during a Friday night rush, theyd find plenty of dirty things. If they came in first thing in the morning, the shop was spotless. Fortunately, customers generally dont enter the kitchen area.

I think Ill wait to see how this plays out before rushing any criticisms on the business for having a few ‘minor cleaning issues’.

#8
chewy147:12 pm, 21 Apr 12

c_c said :

johnboy said :

KFC would have in-house inspectors, those guys are bastard coated bastards and much tougher than any government inspector (which is good)

They certainly have that system, d I believe Maccas does too, and yet both KFC and Maccas make consistent appearances on the NSW Registrar.

Maccas currently has 2, KFC 3 stores, with the Yass store having two separate offence notices at once at the moment.

In fact the Notices currently issues to the Yass KFC are some of the worst I’ve seen in terms of number of faults recorded:
http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/penalty-notices/default.aspx?template=detail&itemId=3049996429
http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/penalty-notices/default.aspx?template=d
etail&itemId=3049996410

Temperature failure, cleanliness failure, defective fittings, seals and surfaces.

There’s got to be a McDonalds Yass (M Yass) joke in there somewhere.

#9
kakosi7:36 pm, 21 Apr 12

Someone who takes their job seriously must have started to work for the health service in Canberra.

Personally I’ve seen a person at a Civic cafe not wash their hands between putting out a garbage bin and handling food.

And even in the places where staff wear gloves to make sandwiches – they often handle food with gloved hands and then handle money and touch other unsanitary objects before putting those same gloved hands right into salad/other food and onto sandwiches. It’s a miracle more people aren’t put into hospital each year.

#10
Instant Mash10:26 pm, 21 Apr 12

stonedwookie said :

@johnboy you cant be serious?
larger companys get off becuase they pay off the inspectors ever been into a mcdonalds or kfc kitchen?
i can tell you ive seen food and dirt all over there floors from the counter and these places never get shutdown its cuase they have mega bucks to appeal and fight any legal battle thrown at them plus the pay off’s.

Either spoken by someone who has never worked in a busy fast food joint, or a really stoned wookie. Johnboy pretty well hit the nail on the head. Regular checks by their own inspectors.

Sure, those places can get dirty, but it never lasts for more than a few minutes unless it’s extremely busy.

#11
Reprobate10:49 pm, 21 Apr 12

Wait til they check out the Erindale store, the fridge and wall behind the counter look like they came from the set of The Young Ones.

#12
smallfishtony11:52 pm, 21 Apr 12

johnboy said :

KFC would have in-house inspectors, those guys are bastard coated bastards and much tougher than any government inspector (which is good)

I used to be one of those ‘coated bastards’ and you are right the standards internally were, and are tight. Operational aspects of the business do, at times make the back of house of restaurants appear dirty during peak periods, but the standards are still the standards for the product handling, cross contamination, holding etc. As per one of the other posts, the place is left spotless again by the end of shift ready to do it all again the next day. Sometimes the bigger chains get more governmental attention than the smaller guys, and I have been into the back of some other restaurants (non chain) that made me cringe….lets see how this one plays out….

#13
Instant Mash1:05 am, 22 Apr 12

Of all the kitchens I’ve worked in, I can safely say that Macca’s was the cleanest for the most part.

#14
stonedwookie11:34 am, 22 Apr 12

ah there own inspectors checks them selfs i wonder why they do that?duh
kinda like a student marking there own work you really think someone employed by the company is gonna give the chain bad feedback and if it does that anybody is gonna hear about it?
ill take snaps nexttime and post pictures if its so hard for you too believe cuase i see the shit all the time

#15
Mr Evil11:52 am, 22 Apr 12

Anyone else ever used the toilets in that place?

I used them (once) about 18 months ago, and apart from the fact that the hand dryer didn’t blow any hot air, the place looked like it hadn’t been cleaned properly since 1985. The scary thing is that the staff would have used those toilets too!!

Personally, I can’t wait until ACT Health gets to the ANU Refectory, as I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of these signs appeared appeared there – not so much due to lack of dilligence on the part of the business operators, but the lack of work being done by the jerkoffs running the Union.

#16
dixyland12:06 pm, 22 Apr 12

I thin I’ll get Kingsley’s for lunch today

#17
dungfungus12:19 pm, 22 Apr 12

stonedwookie said :

@johnboy you cant be serious?
larger companys get off becuase they pay off the inspectors ever been into a mcdonalds or kfc kitchen?
i can tell you ive seen food and dirt all over there floors from the counter and these places never get shutdown its cuase they have mega bucks to appeal and fight any legal battle thrown at them plus the pay off’s.

I have to agree with sonedwookis on this. The ACT DPP will not take on multinationals even if a government safety officer finds a serious electrical fault with an appliance. By serious I mean where manufacturers’ certificate of compliance has been deliberately ignored by altering electrical configurations.

#18
VicePope1:08 pm, 22 Apr 12

On the question of the major chains getting hit, a reasonable guide might be the NSW Food Authority, where they’ve been doing public naming and shaming for a while longer than the ACT. It lists both prosecutions (more serious matters) and penalty notices. While the smaller businesses dominate, there are dishonourable mentions for all sectors. (My reading is that Domino’s Quaker’s Hill scored fines of $116,000 in 2006, leaving one of my former favourites – a Turkish kebab place – in the shade on amount. Coffe Club also gets a mention). This website sticks around, although people can apply to have things changed if, for example, the old and filthy owners move on.
While internal checks probably help with the large chains, I’d guess nothing can stop a determined grot from being a grot who should never be allowed near other people’s food. Without ever having seen the back end of one local Macca’s, my guess is that it’s awful because the front end, that the punters can see, is seldom clean.

#19
c_c1:43 pm, 22 Apr 12

Mr Evil said :

Anyone else ever used the toilets in that place?

I used them (once) about 18 months ago, and apart from the fact that the hand dryer didn’t blow any hot air, the place looked like it hadn’t been cleaned properly since 1985. The scary thing is that the staff would have used those toilets too!!

Personally, I can’t wait until ACT Health gets to the ANU Refectory, as I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of these signs appeared appeared there – not so much due to lack of dilligence on the part of the business operators, but the lack of work being done by the jerkoffs running the Union.

Oh man are you on the money with that. How many of the ANU food outlets remain in business is a mystery. Indeed Caterina’s, run entirely by the Union closed down mysteriously and the building has been left vacant ever since. That was notorious for serving green eggs, expired meat and for all sorts of other health concerns. Place smelt like a toilet too.

The other outlets like Sizzle Cafe (related to Sizzle Bento) and the Chicken shop are both well known for giving people food poisoning and yet they still trade. The Subway doesn’t heat through meat properly and they have piles of 6in roles up against a filthy wall waiting to be used instead of being put back in the warmer like normal stores. The staff frequently have colds and cough all over the food blatantly.

It just really sickens me that the Union has the gaul to complain about the University not caring about students and yet they preside over trash they own or lease out.

As for bathrooms, you’re again touching on an important point. And it’s one I frequently see. Ever been to the Holy Grail in Kingston, or the places in Manuka Plaza. In the case of the former, the toilet was an outhouse, literally a shed out the back with a wobbly toilet not bolted down properly with a filthy sink with no soap and only cold water. Manuka Plaza, was terrible too until the renovation.

#20
Shinigami_Josh8:04 pm, 22 Apr 12

c_c said :

Mr Evil said :

The other outlets like Sizzle Cafe (related to Sizzle Bento) and the Chicken shop are both well known for giving people food poisoning and yet they still trade. The Subway doesn’t heat through meat properly and they have piles of 6in roles up against a filthy wall waiting to be used instead of being put back in the warmer like normal stores. The staff frequently have colds and cough all over the food blatantly.

Chicken place is called Rosies and i think i have been made a little crook from it before. But i know of no one who has gotten sick from Sizzle cafe and i have eaten quite a bit there and at the other stores (all run by the same guy).

#21
c_c9:57 pm, 22 Apr 12

Shinigami_Josh said :

c_c said :

Mr Evil said :

The other outlets like Sizzle Cafe (related to Sizzle Bento) and the Chicken shop are both well known for giving people food poisoning and yet they still trade. The Subway doesn’t heat through meat properly and they have piles of 6in roles up against a filthy wall waiting to be used instead of being put back in the warmer like normal stores. The staff frequently have colds and cough all over the food blatantly.

Chicken place is called Rosies and i think i have been made a little crook from it before. But i know of no one who has gotten sick from Sizzle cafe and i have eaten quite a bit there and at the other stores (all run by the same guy).

Well I know people who have.
I tried it personally a couple of times long ago, each time they served rice that was neither hot nor cold, it was room temp. Great way to pick up Bacillus cereus poisoning among other things. Very dangerous.

#22
Scribble7:50 am, 23 Apr 12

“…the Union has the gaul to complain”

Astérix or Obélix?

#23
Erg09:29 am, 23 Apr 12

chewy14 said :

There’s got to be a McDonalds Yass (M Yass) joke in there somewhere.

There was a picture of the sign on failblog (I think) a few years back, in fact.

#24
Holden Caulfield12:11 pm, 23 Apr 12

johnboy said :

KFC would have in-house inspectors, those guys are bastard coated bastards and much tougher than any government inspector (which is good)

Let’s hope they’re tougher than they used to be:

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/nsw-family-warns-kfc-not-to-appeal-compo-20120421-1xdee.html

#25
c_c12:22 pm, 23 Apr 12

That KFC Twister story sounds very suss to me. Firstly food poisoning can take days and even weeks to develop from the time the contamination was ingested. So if a large portion of the family got ill, it could have been any number of things including home cooked meals, which is where most food poisoning comes from.

Secondly, they claim that three of them shared the one Twister. How many people here have seen a Twister, those things aren’t large. Having three people share one seems a little too convenient and a bit too odd.

No denying it’s a sad story, but I don’t think the standard of balance of probability required for a civil claim was met.

#26
Tetranitrate12:56 pm, 23 Apr 12

c_c said :

It just really sickens me that the Union has the gaul to complain about the University not caring about students and yet they preside over trash they own or lease out.

You know that the ‘union’ isn’t actually a union right? the actual ‘student union’ at ANU is ANUSA, the ‘Union’ just runs the refectory and a couple of other stores. The two organizations are separate.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a press release from the union board full stop, let alone one complaining about the university not caring about students.
The bigger issue with the Union/refectory/whatever is the long serving management.

#27
c_c1:17 pm, 23 Apr 12

Tetranitrate said :

c_c said :

It just really sickens me that the Union has the gaul to complain about the University not caring about students and yet they preside over trash they own or lease out.

You know that the ‘union’ isn’t actually a union right? the actual ‘student union’ at ANU is ANUSA, the ‘Union’ just runs the refectory and a couple of other stores. The two organizations are separate.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a press release from the union board full stop, let alone one complaining about the university not caring about students.
The bigger issue with the Union/refectory/whatever is the long serving management.

I am aware of the distinction. Certainly in the context of compulsory fees though and funding from the University in the lack of those fees, the Union has on occasion been critical, typically around the time they confetti lecture theatres with flyers.

In any case, if you’re campaigning on the basis “Students for students” I’d expect better.

#28
macekcry4:38 pm, 23 Apr 12

c_c said :

Tetranitrate said :

c_c said :

It just really sickens me that the Union has the gaul to complain about the University not caring about students and yet they preside over trash they own or lease out.

You know that the ‘union’ isn’t actually a union right? the actual ‘student union’ at ANU is ANUSA, the ‘Union’ just runs the refectory and a couple of other stores. The two organizations are separate.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a press release from the union board full stop, let alone one complaining about the university not caring about students.
The bigger issue with the Union/refectory/whatever is the long serving management.

I am aware of the distinction. Certainly in the context of compulsory fees though and funding from the University in the lack of those fees, the Union has on occasion been critical, typically around the time they confetti lecture theatres with flyers.

In any case, if you’re campaigning on the basis “Students for students” I’d expect better.

cut it out nerds. take this to stalkerspace. back to pressing nuggies issue.

how long do they take to reopen?

#29
Darkfalz5:49 pm, 23 Apr 12

Instant Mash said :

Of all the kitchens I’ve worked in, I can safely say that Macca’s was the cleanest for the most part.

One of the reasons is that inside Maccas isn’t really a kitchen, it’s a food assembly line. There’s nothing that comes in that’s not pretty much pre-made and ready to assemble (maybe they wash and cut the lettuce, but that would be about it). A real cafe or restaurant has a real kitchen where they actually prepare the food. The Maccas toilets at Dickson have been unpleasant every time I’ve been in there – you can’t necessarily blame the establishment, it might get cleaned perfectly once a day, but get filthified again by the bogans and druggies after a couple of hours. I try not to use toilets in restaurants if I can help it, as they’re usually pretty foul.

#30
matt312219:35 pm, 23 Apr 12

Darkfalz said :

Instant Mash said :

Of all the kitchens I’ve worked in, I can safely say that Macca’s was the cleanest for the most part.

One of the reasons is that inside Maccas isn’t really a kitchen, it’s a food assembly line. There’s nothing that comes in that’s not pretty much pre-made and ready to assemble (maybe they wash and cut the lettuce, but that would be about it). A real cafe or restaurant has a real kitchen where they actually prepare the food. The Maccas toilets at Dickson have been unpleasant every time I’ve been in there – you can’t necessarily blame the establishment, it might get cleaned perfectly once a day, but get filthified again by the bogans and druggies after a couple of hours. I try not to use toilets in restaurants if I can help it, as they’re usually pretty foul.

That doesn’t mean stuff can’t go wrong in the Maccas kitchen though. My niece bought a six pack of chicken nuggets from there a month ago. She bit into one and it was completely pink glossy uncooked chicken inside. Three of the nuggets were like that. She took pictures but never took any further action – it makes me wretch just thinking about it.

I must admit I still buy the nuggets from other Maccas restaurants on occasion though and get the sweet mustard sauce. Mmm.

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