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Save the trees because we’re incapable cryeth TAMS

By 15 January 2014 53

Territory and Municipal Services are hoping you can get out and water street trees because they’re not very good at doing their own jobs:

With ongoing dry weather and this week’s very high temperatures, the ACT Government is seeking help from residents to look after Canberra’s trees.

Territory and Municipal Services (TAMS), who manage Canberra’s trees, have a current tree watering program focussed on watering approximately 21,000 young trees located on nature strips and in parks. These trees are watered once a month but would benefit from an extra drink where possible.

“While we are doing our best to ensure Canberra’s trees remain healthy; any help from the community in terms of watering is always appreciated and very beneficial, especially during the hot and dry conditions forecast over the next few days,” said Luke Bulkeley, Acting Manager, Urban Treescapes.

“A little help from the community will make a significant difference when keeping trees alive during this hot, dry period. The effect of this week’s conditions is cumulative as the soil is already very dry from the weather conditions in the last few months.

“An eight litre bucket of water once a week could provide enough supplementary water for young trees during dry periods. A larger tree of over five metres may require several buckets once a week, during the cool of the morning or evening. The water should be applied slowly under the tree close to the trunk.”

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Save the trees because we’re incapable cryeth TAMS
Persephone 2:19 pm
15 Jan 14
#1

I am happy to pay 4 cents worth of water to give my street trees a drink. They give beautiful cooling shade and oxygen. The birds also enjoy the shade, and make my street look nice. TAMS do a good job, but in this heat wave, it’s understandable they might need some help from Canberra residents to keep their street trees in good condition.

Thumper 3:11 pm
15 Jan 14
#2

You couldn’t make it up if you tried….

zorro29 3:26 pm
15 Jan 14
#3

I don’t mind watering plants….although I have quite the black thumb so I wouldn’t trust me with it.

Sydney is really good with maintenance/cleaning/gardening (although it may be just cos I live near the CBD and we have a mass of services)

A_Cog 3:39 pm
15 Jan 14
#4

Nah TAMS.

Given that you tell me what I can do with my trees, I’m gonna tell you what you can do with yours:

*&$#$ $* &% #(&$ a@&%$*&% @##

Antagonist 4:01 pm
15 Jan 14
#5

It is a bit early for this April Fools sh!t, isn’t it ???

Postalgeek 4:17 pm
15 Jan 14
#6

Persephone said :

I am happy to pay 4 cents worth of water to give my street trees a drink. They give beautiful cooling shade and oxygen. The birds also enjoy the shade, and make my street look nice. TAMS do a good job, but in this heat wave, it’s understandable they might need some help from Canberra residents to keep their street trees in good condition.

+1 But if some people want a dirt patch in front of their home, nobody’s going to force them to water their trees.

thatsnotme 4:20 pm
15 Jan 14
#7

Ohh FFS…heaven forbid the good citizens of Canberra actually get off their fat arses to pour a bucket of water on a tree! A tree which, ultimately, you helped pay for.

I know! We’ll hire a few dozen new staff specifically for tree watering duties. They’ll have to work only mornings and evenings, because watering in the middle of the day is a waste of time in heat like this, so will only ever be paid overtime rates. They’ll also spend most of the year doing nothing, when we don’t have a heatwave, and the trees can survive with normal watering.

Oh! Or we’ll just pull other staff off their normal duties and make them water trees instead! So your wait at Canberra Connect shopfronts might be a hell of a lot longer, and the bins in the town centres might overflow more than normal, but the trees will survive, and you can live satisfied in the knowledge that you didn’t have to do anything to help yourself.

Bravo!!

Jim Jones 4:42 pm
15 Jan 14
#8

It’s amazing how quickly some people will go from whining about the ‘nanny state’ to whining about the government not doing everything for them, without any hint of irony.

c_c™ 4:54 pm
15 Jan 14
#9

No beer at the cricket, cry for the hills and let slip the dogs of war. But looking after your city on a handful of extreme heat days, oh no go away. You can tell some people have their priorities wrong.

DrKoresh 4:57 pm
15 Jan 14
#10

Territory and Municipal Services are hoping you can get out and water street trees because they’re not very good at doing their own jobs:

And people say Canberra lacks community spirit!

gazket 5:07 pm
15 Jan 14
#11

thatsnotme said :

Ohh FFS…heaven forbid the good citizens of Canberra actually get off their fat arses to pour a bucket of water on a tree! A tree which, ultimately, you helped pay for.

I know! We’ll hire a few dozen new staff specifically for tree watering duties. They’ll have to work only mornings and evenings, because watering in the middle of the day is a waste of time in heat like this, so will only ever be paid overtime rates. They’ll also spend most of the year doing nothing, when we don’t have a heatwave, and the trees can survive with normal watering.

Oh! Or we’ll just pull other staff off their normal duties and make them water trees instead! So your wait at Canberra Connect shopfronts might be a hell of a lot longer, and the bins in the town centres might overflow more than normal, but the trees will survive, and you can live satisfied in the knowledge that you didn’t have to do anything to help yourself.

Bravo!!

I highly doubt people from the Canberra Connect shop fronts are going outside to work. They would be complaining of blistered hands in and sweat in their eyes in minutes.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:13 pm
15 Jan 14
#12

Not a bad community initiative in my eyes. But on the same token, I hope they do not complain when next season I claim a decent patch of park to grow a community veggie patch and plant a few extra shade trees.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:14 pm
15 Jan 14
#13

A_Cog said :

Nah TAMS.

Given that you tell me what I can do with my trees, I’m gonna tell you what you can do with yours:

*&$#$ $* &% #(&$ a@&%$*&% @##

Haha, this is also a good point.

Antagonist 6:22 pm
15 Jan 14
#14

DrKoresh said :

Territory and Municipal Services are hoping you can get out and water street trees because they’re not very good at doing their own jobs:

And people say Canberra lacks community spirit!

The garbo is feeling a little tired from the heat – time to take my own rubbish out to the tip now it is summer. And the guys that drive the skippys around to collect rubbish from public bins are tired from the heat also – I will take the rubbish out to the tip for them too. Oh, and those poor rude folks on the phones at Canberra Connect … I shall man the phones for them too, so they can have a bitch about what nasty people the Canberra public are! I wonder if they need a break at the ACT Government Shopfront – I will give the rude concierge a break, before relieving the folks behind the counter so they can have a coffee (or several) on paid work time. [/sarcasm]

Now what is it that I pay rates/taxes/stamp duty for again ???

DrKoresh 7:44 pm
15 Jan 14
#15

Antagonist said :

The garbo is feeling a little tired from the heat – time to take my own rubbish out to the tip now it is summer. And the guys that drive the skippys around to collect rubbish from public bins are tired from the heat also – I will take the rubbish out to the tip for them too. Oh, and those poor rude folks on the phones at Canberra Connect … I shall man the phones for them too, so they can have a bitch about what nasty people the Canberra public are! I wonder if they need a break at the ACT Government Shopfront – I will give the rude concierge a break, before relieving the folks behind the counter so they can have a coffee (or several) on paid work time. [/sarcasm]

Now what is it that I pay rates/taxes/stamp duty for again ???

And they say people in Canberra are self-centred and entitled!

Thumper 7:49 pm
15 Jan 14
#16

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Not a bad community initiative in my eyes. But on the same token, I hope they do not complain when next season I claim a decent patch of park to grow a community veggie patch and plant a few extra shade trees.

And of course, they won’t mind me putting a pump in the creek and pumping water onto my, albeit, quite dead lawn…

Antagonist 8:28 pm
15 Jan 14
#17

DrKoresh said :

Antagonist said :

The garbo is feeling a little tired from the heat – time to take my own rubbish out to the tip now it is summer. And the guys that drive the skippys around to collect rubbish from public bins are tired from the heat also – I will take the rubbish out to the tip for them too. Oh, and those poor rude folks on the phones at Canberra Connect … I shall man the phones for them too, so they can have a bitch about what nasty people the Canberra public are! I wonder if they need a break at the ACT Government Shopfront – I will give the rude concierge a break, before relieving the folks behind the counter so they can have a coffee (or several) on paid work time. [/sarcasm]

Now what is it that I pay rates/taxes/stamp duty for again ???

And they say people in Canberra are self-centred and entitled!

It is a perfectly valid point. We pay rates/taxes/stamp duty to the ACT Government, who in turn employ people (and pay them a salary + super + leave entitlements) to do these things. All of a sudden, the ACT Government are caught off guard by a heatwave. It is not like there have not been heatwaves in the several hundred million years before Australia was invented. These heatwaves are a new thing! What would they have done in the old days during a heatwave, I wonder? They must have asked Mr and Mrs John Q Taxpayer to figure it out.

For the record, I already water government trees twice weekly. They grow on my nature strip, which I also mow. For free.

lostinbias 8:48 pm
15 Jan 14
#18

Antagonist said :

DrKoresh said :

Territory and Municipal Services are hoping you can get out and water street trees because they’re not very good at doing their own jobs:

And people say Canberra lacks community spirit!

The garbo is feeling a little tired from the heat – time to take my own rubbish out to the tip now it is summer. And the guys that drive the skippys around to collect rubbish from public bins are tired from the heat also – I will take the rubbish out to the tip for them too. Oh, and those poor rude folks on the phones at Canberra Connect … I shall man the phones for them too, so they can have a bitch about what nasty people the Canberra public are! I wonder if they need a break at the ACT Government Shopfront – I will give the rude concierge a break, before relieving the folks behind the counter so they can have a coffee (or several) on paid work time. [/sarcasm]

Now what is it that I pay rates/taxes/stamp duty for again ???

Hey, go easy on the garbage collectors. They have to do a FIVE DAY WEEK NOW WITH NO OVERTIME. Presumably ten hours a day! It’s not as if salaried retail workers have to do that on a regular basis! Oh no!

Queen_of_the_Bun 8:57 pm
15 Jan 14
#19

DrKoresh said :

Antagonist said :

The garbo is feeling a little tired from the heat – time to take my own rubbish out to the tip now it is summer. And the guys that drive the skippys around to collect rubbish from public bins are tired from the heat also – I will take the rubbish out to the tip for them too. Oh, and those poor rude folks on the phones at Canberra Connect … I shall man the phones for them too, so they can have a bitch about what nasty people the Canberra public are! I wonder if they need a break at the ACT Government Shopfront – I will give the rude concierge a break, before relieving the folks behind the counter so they can have a coffee (or several) on paid work time. [/sarcasm]

Now what is it that I pay rates/taxes/stamp duty for again ???

And they say people in Canberra are self-centred and entitled!

I doubt Antagonist actually pays any rates/taxes/stamp duty. Trolls come duty-free!

magiccar9 9:40 pm
15 Jan 14
#20

So the price of water is going up… And the government want Canberrans to ‘donate’ it to them free of charge?
Perhaps we could plant trees that are more tolerant of these conditions? Or we could not plant baby trees leading up to such a hot summer (which has been predicted for many months now)?

The government are more than happy to beg and plead for our help when they can’t achieve their requirements, but when residents ask for the smallest things in return they do diddly-squat. Sorry TAMS but I think I’ll pass.

Masquara 9:57 pm
15 Jan 14
#21

TAMS neglected all the trees at the O’Connor Shops, which were not an obvious communal responsibility or identifiable individual responsibility (eg where would a citizen find a tap to turn on and water those trees?) and most of them are dead. And TAMS are suddenly high-handedly calling on us to save trees?

Masquara 9:59 pm
15 Jan 14
#22

Seriously, is Shane Rattenbury the minister responsible for looking after Canberra’s street trees? Surely that can’t be true! His portfolio has been expending a LOT of energy on weird signage unnecessaries all over Canberra’s nature parks – couldn’t this GREEN have allocated a wage to a watering truck?

thatsnotme 10:40 pm
15 Jan 14
#23

From JB’s headline of ‘we’re incapable’ right through to Masquara’s claim of TAMS ‘high-handedly calling on us to save trees’, almost this entire thread is a depressing read. I shouldn’t be surprised though – I have neighbours who were here when my suburb was established in 1973, who tell of deliberately destroying any street trees planted outside their place. “Sorry, I forgot to put the hand brake on the car, and the damn thing just rolled right over the tree”.

Now, given that just about every house on the street is constructed on an easterly or westerly aspect, we’re lucky enough to have a big tree that gives us some afternoon shade, while our neighbour who couldn’t remember how to put on the hand brake bakes in the full sun.

Honestly though…from some of the reactions on here, you’d think TAMS had asked you to s*** in your hands, and then run it down to the local sewerage works. Get a grip people.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 10:45 pm
15 Jan 14
#24

Thumper said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Not a bad community initiative in my eyes. But on the same token, I hope they do not complain when next season I claim a decent patch of park to grow a community veggie patch and plant a few extra shade trees.

And of course, they won’t mind me putting a pump in the creek and pumping water onto my, albeit, quite dead lawn…

Literally no reason to not let you do that. Creek water is creek water.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 10:46 pm
15 Jan 14
#25

Masquara said :

TAMS neglected all the trees at the O’Connor Shops, which were not an obvious communal responsibility or identifiable individual responsibility (eg where would a citizen find a tap to turn on and water those trees?) and most of them are dead. And TAMS are suddenly high-handedly calling on us to save trees?

Source that tams caused those trees to die?

miz 10:55 pm
15 Jan 14
#26

There used to be a Parks and Gardens area within the Department of the Capital Territory, back when things were (IMO) run properly. Unfortunately in relation to services in general in Canberra, I think we currently get ‘two star’ results despite paying the equivalent of five star as evidenced by e.g. chip seal on roads,generally neglected suburban parks, no hard rubbish collection and, apparently, no one to look after that ACT community assets that are established trees. It used to be obvious when you had entered the ACT from NSW, because of the excellent road surface. This has reversed.
That said I have planted approximately 20 trees on my current property to create a microclimate that is cooler in summer and less exposed to freezing gales in winter. I am fortunate: I live on a decent sized block. The current fashion for mini blocks with no room for trees is very bad for Canberra (and of course for the residents’ power bills).

BimboGeek 4:04 am
16 Jan 14
#27

Half the trees in my street are dying of old age. Best for all involved to save the money and put in the new ones after the heat settles down.

I also have a gum tree that’s about 30m high and starting to drop branches so I’ve got to figure out how to get it removed legally.

I love trees but they sometimes need more than a single watering can and it would be great if TAMS got onto it and let us sort out our own trees too.

Antagonist 9:15 am
16 Jan 14
#28

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

TAMS neglected all the trees at the O’Connor Shops, which were not an obvious communal responsibility or identifiable individual responsibility (eg where would a citizen find a tap to turn on and water those trees?) and most of them are dead. And TAMS are suddenly high-handedly calling on us to save trees?

Source that tams caused those trees to die?

Where in the above quote does it say that TaMS caused those trees to die? ;)

Jivrashia 10:38 am
16 Jan 14
#29

I’ll take a different approach on this one.

I will be using my discretion as to which trees I water and save.

Those that contribute a lot of fuel to bushfires, and thrive and rejuvenate in fires while indirectly killing off competitors (e.g. any tree not of its specie), can go to (the sweltering heatwave of) hell.

maxblues 11:40 am
16 Jan 14
#30

“Take the time to hug a tree…in fact, take one out for a few drinks first.”
Mikey Robins, 3 Beers and a Chinese Meal (page 35).

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