24 February 2009

YouTubing High Speed Motorcyclist gets away without even a fine

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On New Year’s eve we had a bit of excitement courtesy of a YouTubing Kawasaki Z750 rider, his digital speedo, and his willingness to ride at what looked like well over 200kmph while filming it.

Word now reaches the bunker that he has escaped court without even copping a fine.

More details as they come to hand.

UPDATED: I’m hearing 300 hours community service.

ANOTHER UPDATE: And loss of licence for two years.

FINAL UPDATE: The ABC story is online now:

    Police charged Joel Mason, 20, from Kingston after finding videos of his actions on the “YouTube” website…

    Mason from Kingston pleaded guilty to dangerous and negligent driving…

    Magistrate Karen Fryar disqualified Mason’s licence for more than two years and ordered he complete 300 hours of community service as part of a good behaviour order.

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There’s no way he’d say something like that in person, jakez. Then he’d have to, like, look people in the eye, try to explain himself properly, maybe even use multisyllabic words; much easier to smash the hate out all alone with a keyboard.

Tony said :

Get real people! Do you think this tosser is going to stay off the road because he does not have a license???

And how is community service enforced and monitored? He going to walk around picking up litter for 30 minutes for only half of that 8 weeks, and that will be that.

This punishment isn’t going to do s**t to change this twerps attitude. Through him in the new prison for a couple of months, I hear there’s plenty of room at the moment.

I’m curious. When you say things like that in person, what are peoples reaction? Do they think it is a logical chain of argument? Do they spontaneously combust?

EVeryone seems to be shocked that the guy didn’t get a fine. big deal.
His punishment seems pretty harsh to me. I would much rather pay a massive fine than lose my licence for over 2 years and have to do approx 2 months community service.

Money is everything, and also cnosidering the guy is from Kingston, a wealthier suburb, paying a fine likely wouldn’t have broken his (or his families) banks.

Let’s not forget the Remand Centre is chokkers and a bit ordinary; and we don’t have the Alexander MacConnachie Centre in a state to accept any prisoners.

I’m sure the magistrates will be taking the absence of facilities into account.

Generally community service is handed out instead of a gaol term. It is far better than a fine. If he doesn’t complete it he is then in breach and is resentenced. I think in any case community service should be handed down. Make crooks work off their debt doing something useful.

Beserk Keyboard Warrior5:43 pm 25 Feb 09

So if you come from a “stable” family you get a sentence reduction but if you come from an “unstable” home, you get a sentence reduction. Go figure.

If nothing else, 300 hours holding a lollypop gives one a lot of time for personal reflection.

Inappropriate1:14 pm 25 Feb 09

The magistrates rationale for not imposing a harsher sentence:

Ms Fryar told Mason that he could have faced 12 months in jail or a $10,000 fine, but she took into account his clean record, steady employment and stable family background and disqualified him for 27 months and imposed the community service and good-behaviour orders.

Source: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/youtube-motorbike-hoon-nets-driving-ban/1443267.aspx

So lets make the 300 hours useful. Things like:

– helping people that have been seriously injured in car accidents.
– cleaning bathrooms at old peoples homes
– clipping toe nails in old peoples homes (surely that is the worst job in the world…)
– scraping chewey off the pavers in Civic
– in a wetsuit and picking up rubbish from the lakes foreshores

Any other ideas?

elena said :

What’s going on here?

Got busted doing 100 in a 60 zone – that’s pretty freaking serious despite all your ‘it wasn’t really his fault’ bollocks and calling the cop ‘evil’ (that’s particularly petty and self-absorbed). You really need some perspective, temporary roadworks speed limits are so clearly marked that they’re impossible to miss, you can’t decide to ignore them just because you think it’s okay.

monomania said :

Perversely, I kind of think there is something noble about youngsters saying ‘up yours, lets take some risks’ A hell of a lot of us did exactly the same sort of thing when we were young. We were stupid and we took risks. OK, the guy is an idiot. It was great wasn’t it?

Yeah, he’s a real fracking hero!!

Just like all those heroes who have wiped out innocent people street racing or the like.

Have fun picking up the rubbish on the side of the road, hero.

Perversely, I kind of think there is something noble about youngsters saying ‘up yours, lets take some risks’ A hell of a lot of us did exactly the same sort of thing when we were young. We were stupid and we took risks. OK, the guy is an idiot. It was great wasn’t it?

Holden Caulfield9:01 pm 24 Feb 09

Inappropriate said :

I reckon 300hrs of community service is a better punishment than a fine. He won’t be forgetting what he did in a hurry.

But it’s the vibe.

well at least she got 3/4 of the sentence right, which is above average of most of the sentences handed out these days.

I think we do a pretty good job catching crims sitting in front of the computer, lookout Stanhope’s next policy, put all police in front of a computer and put some more speed cameras up. They did a really good job in this case too.. or not.

Is video evidence less compelling than a policeman’s word?
Maybe they decided not to fine him because he basically convicted himself.

Hopefully he will be required to spend the 300 hours helping in a brain injury unit.

astrojax said :

money isn’t everything – fines aren’t the only punishment.

why do people think community service is ‘getting off lightly’? what would you earn for your next 300 hrs work??

Yeah good point Jaxmeister. Even if the kid only earned 20 bones an hour it still equates to a 6 grand fine on top of his 2 year suspension. Is that not enough for yuz?!

Why don’t we organise for the traffic coppers to demonstrate AGAINST giving tickets out.

It would seem that giving them out is worthless.

I know I wouldn’t waste my time if the Courts are not going to back me.

Oh, hold on…. The Courts aren’t already supportive of coppers.

Who would have thought……

money isn’t everything – fines aren’t the only punishment.

why do people think community service is ‘getting off lightly’? what would you earn for your next 300 hrs work??

elena said :

What! No fine!!!

Mine got a, get this, $1700 fine along that stupid strip on the Monaro Hwy going past CanTurf.

Evil reckless man you might say, but the extenuating factors where that:
– he’d was put-putting his way home in his van after a long road trip where the speed limit (on similar or worse condition roads) was 110
– he was busted going a smidge over 100
– there wasn’t anyone else on the road
– it was temporarily marked road works – so a motorbike cop ‘busted’ him going 40+ over in a 60 zone
– (he wasn’t filming it to put on youtube)

The evil cop was snide and cocky, mine politely tried to challenge it, even drop it back down in to the realms of realistic punishment-fitting-the-crime sort of fine, particularly in this economic climate, but the vindictive power-grubbing hate-inspiring copper loved it up and seemed to enjoy the whole proceeding.

In the end we payed the fine – nearly $2 grand for my otherwise painfully-conservatively-driving beau – and it really bites.

Then this reckless bastard doesn’t even get fined.

What’s going on here?

Boo hoo. Dispute it don’t whine…. that this fool got off lightly isn’t a surprise to anybody is it?

Clown Killer6:41 pm 24 Feb 09

I’m led to believe that people sentenced to community service are organised into teams that do stuff like painting of schools and government buildings. If you’ve got a job – or reasonable prospects of one, the community service is done on weekends.

Get real people! Do you think this tosser is going to stay off the road because he does not have a license???

And how is community service enforced and monitored? He going to walk around picking up litter for 30 minutes for only half of that 8 weeks, and that will be that.

This punishment isn’t going to do s**t to change this twerps attitude. Through him in the new prison for a couple of months, I hear there’s plenty of room at the moment.

and with his cavalier disregard to the rules that most of us have to live by I doubt not having a licence will stop him getting on his bike if/when he buys another own….

Inappropriate6:10 pm 24 Feb 09

elena said :

What! No fine!!!
Then this reckless bastard doesn’t even get fined.
What’s going on here?

I reckon 300hrs of community service is a better punishment than a fine. He won’t be forgetting what he did in a hurry.

Great punishment 🙂 smiles allround

What! No fine!!!

Mine got a, get this, $1700 fine along that stupid strip on the Monaro Hwy going past CanTurf.

Evil reckless man you might say, but the extenuating factors where that:
– he’d was put-putting his way home in his van after a long road trip where the speed limit (on similar or worse condition roads) was 110
– he was busted going a smidge over 100
– there wasn’t anyone else on the road
– it was temporarily marked road works – so a motorbike cop ‘busted’ him going 40+ over in a 60 zone
– (he wasn’t filming it to put on youtube)

The evil cop was snide and cocky, mine politely tried to challenge it, even drop it back down in to the realms of realistic punishment-fitting-the-crime sort of fine, particularly in this economic climate, but the vindictive power-grubbing hate-inspiring copper loved it up and seemed to enjoy the whole proceeding.

In the end we payed the fine – nearly $2 grand for my otherwise painfully-conservatively-driving beau – and it really bites.

Then this reckless bastard doesn’t even get fined.

What’s going on here?

Holden Caulfield5:38 pm 24 Feb 09

At the very least, they should have fined him whatever the going rate is for 45km/h+ over the speed limit.

It’s pretty piss weak not to have fined him, when virtually all other traffic offences incur fines.

Hell, I’ve been fined over $100 for parking in a no parking zone on a Sunday afternoon where the only other person to go past my car was the bastard that booked me. Sure I did the wrong thing, but it had no effect on anyone else. This clown fangs around Canberra’s streets at 200km/h+ in broad daylight, with other road users around, and gets no fine.

Bizarre.

Damning evidence on you tube or not? I think that it would be a difficult case as there is only a speedo to look at in the vid.

You could work out the time it takes him to go from one place to another, and calculate average speed. But I suspect that even if the speedo was reading a bit over, he must have still been going pretty bloody fast.

Two years loss of licence + 300 hrs is pretty tough. I wish they would give that sentence to DUI offenders.

Pommy bastard5:27 pm 24 Feb 09

Joel Mason, 20, from Kingston, may I take this opportunity to inform you that you are a complete imbecile.

Oh, and to heartily laugh at you losing your license.

My thanks

ABC have this now. Seems that the claim that was posted on here at the time that he’d managed to wreck his bike soon after filming the clips was in fact true. Difficult to feel sympathy for that, I’m afraid.

Pommy bastard5:17 pm 24 Feb 09

Two years loss of license keeps this tool off our roads, hopefully, for a while.

300 hrs of community service, not too shabby.

Maybe he’ll value his license a bit more following this.

RandomPoster5:16 pm 24 Feb 09

Two years of catching the bus will teach him…

And he’ll have to catch buses to get there.
Cruel punishment indeed…

PBO, they found the original unedited footage at his house.

300 hours of community service is reasonably steep – that’s 8 solid weeks of 7.5 hour days.

Damning evidence on you tube or not? I think that it would be a difficult case as there is only a speedo to look at in the vid. Just because he loaded it onto you tube and it features a bike that may or may not be his going around and area that has been identified as canberra, oddly enough that, in some cases would not be enough to charge this idiot. I could be wrong though.

Damn! It’s been removed from YouTube.

Pommy bastard4:25 pm 24 Feb 09

johnboy said :

Pommy bastard said :

Idiocy, what message does this send out to young people?

Innocent until proven guilty? Let’s see what his defence was before turning the dudgeon to 11 eh?

Fair point John. But teh evidence on YouTube was pretty damning, was it not?

Yeah, I’d have like to have heard his defence.

Pommy bastard said :

Idiocy, what message does this send out to young people?

Innocent until proven guilty? Let’s see what his defence was before turning the dudgeon to 11 eh?

Pommy bastard4:06 pm 24 Feb 09

Idiocy, what message does this send out to young people?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy4:05 pm 24 Feb 09

And people wonder why 10km/h over the limit isn’t taken seriously by most people.

That certainly was a quick turnaround.

I bet he made a quick getaway from court that day.

He must be a fast talker.

Motobie!!

… or prove that it was possible to fake the speed.

At a complete guess he might have been able to prove that he faked the speeds in the video.

Inappropriate3:50 pm 24 Feb 09

WTF? How could he be sent walking??

The threat to publish them is an important deterrent.

But enough of that, let’s get back on topic please.

It varies depending on what sort of day I’m having with the abusive nutjobs.

The foxhole has been upgraded to bunker status?

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