40 Zones on London Circuit?

ACTing_out said :

watto23 said :

bd84 said :

Research shows drivers will keep to the speed limits more when they are appropriately set to the conditions. Put a low speed limit where it clearly isn’t needed, then most people will ignore it. It’s the same for roadwork speed limits when no roadworks are being performed.

I agree here, on the rare occasion I’ve been caught for speeding it was often on a road where the limit is set too low for its purpose. Not defending speeding here, but there is this sentiment in australia that if we just keep reducing speed limits all the accidents will stop. London circuit should be 60, the road along the canberra centre though should be 40, which it is now.

So… are you saying that roads that have slower speed limits should be modified to force the traffic not to speed? I don’t mind chicanes and raised pedestrian crossings but I would object to harsh speed humps/cushions.

We should all pretend that all people are completely retarded and create more and more obstacles for the entire populace to endure while more powerful cars keep being built for damned if I know what occasion you might be able to enjoy it… Create something an idiot can use and only an idiot will use it… As cars are now able to drive themselves; limit all cars to 110km p/hr, put transponders in speed signs and let the car do the work. Or get rid of cars and we can all walk!

This is clever. Use the existing GPS unit in most new cars and link it to the acclerator function in the cars computer. Dont know about other brands but NAVMAN roads in the GPS maps have speed limits built into it. Can’t be that hard to program the car to be limited by the GPS speed limit and if the road has no street limit for whatever reason in the GPS, default to the state limit, eg all roads inthe ACT are 50kph unless posted otherwise.

dtc said :

Research also shows that drivers dont take into account pedestrians, since they only focus on what they (the drivers) want. Also, most drivers are on mobile phones so arent paying attention anyway

Most drivers are on their mobile phones, I assume you have hard evidence to demonstrate this sweeping generalisation.

1242pm – 2x infringements later….the boys in blue have now gone to play somewhere else.

Hopefully Childers Street where is it only a 20kmh zone and I see many more breaches of the speed limit there.

Over n out.

Madam Cholet, I spy with my little eye, right now (1211pm) police with a radar gun on London Circuit, right outside my office in the AON Building.

Happy days!

Madam Cholet….I spy from my little eye, some police on London Cct right now, 1211pm, with a radar gun, opposite my office in the AON Building.

Happy days!

The way the Police act around City Station, not surprised there’s no enforcement going on. I swear they never follow the speed limit, and recently, one of the highway cruisers throughout they’d get a laugh out of blowing the vehicle’s air-horn as a crowd of officer looked on and cheered. No one else with an eardrum was laughing nearby.

watto23 said :

bd84 said :

Research shows drivers will keep to the speed limits more when they are appropriately set to the conditions. Put a low speed limit where it clearly isn’t needed, then most people will ignore it. It’s the same for roadwork speed limits when no roadworks are being performed.

I agree here, on the rare occasion I’ve been caught for speeding it was often on a road where the limit is set too low for its purpose. Not defending speeding here, but there is this sentiment in australia that if we just keep reducing speed limits all the accidents will stop. London circuit should be 60, the road along the canberra centre though should be 40, which it is now.

So… are you saying that roads that have slower speed limits should be modified to force the traffic not to speed? I don’t mind chicanes and raised pedestrian crossings but I would object to harsh speed humps/cushions.

We should all pretend that all people are completely retarded and create more and more obstacles for the entire populace to endure while more powerful cars keep being built for damned if I know what occasion you might be able to enjoy it… Create something an idiot can use and only an idiot will use it… As cars are now able to drive themselves; limit all cars to 110km p/hr, put transponders in speed signs and let the car do the work. Or get rid of cars and we can all walk!

I’m just waiting for someone to turn onto one of these stupid 40 zones like Cooyong St from Braddon, a 50 zone, after the stupid temporary 40 zone sign and contest a fine. After all, all roads in the ACT are 50 unless sign posted otherwise…

bd84 said :

Jim Jones said :

watto23 said :

bd84 said :

Research shows drivers will keep to the speed limits more when they are appropriately set to the conditions. Put a low speed limit where it clearly isn’t needed, then most people will ignore it. It’s the same for roadwork speed limits when no roadworks are being performed.

I agree here, on the rare occasion I’ve been caught for speeding it was often on a road where the limit is set too low for its purpose. Not defending speeding here, but there is this sentiment in australia that if we just keep reducing speed limits all the accidents will stop. London circuit should be 60, the road along the canberra centre though should be 40, which it is now.

Let me get this straight: when you get a speeding fine, it’s totally the road’s fault.

Do you mind if I try using that one next time I get done?

I didn’t say it was a reasonable excuse for speeding.. Its a rationalisation. People are more likely to slow down if they see the benefit to do so, I.e. lots of people beside or actually crossing the road or roadworks with workers and trucks working compared to a road with few people or no workers working. Bit like the boy who cried wolf.. Happens so many times that people eventually ignore it.

But that’s the point of the 40 zones. They have been established in areas that do have lots of people crossing the road but it appears that as per normal established ACT driving protocols nobody gives a s#%t and just drives to the speed that they believe is the most appropriate. Lets not worry ourselves with years of road and vehicle testing proving how long it takes to stop a car at certain speeds and what driving at that speeds does to a human body that was flung into someone’s windscreen.

So you say people are more likely to slow down if they see the benefit.. Here’s one, reducing your speed from 60 to 40 which will reduce your braking distance and then in turn help you avoid destroying someone’s else’s life.

Maybe just maybe if we start obeying road rules and being a little more courteous on the road we would stop the amount of crashes therefore reduce the amount of people heading into our hospitals. Which you never know might lower our god awful CTPI.

Interesting that the discussion is about adhering to the speed limit or driving to the conditions, because the section of road I am talking about is hazardous for pedestrians, especially those crossing at the end of University Ave, and those crossing from the car parks which exit on the other side of the police station. Yes, there are traffic lights outside the new buildings at the bottom of London Circuit and a zebra crossing by the Uni pub, but they are probably deemed too inconvenient by pedestrians to have to detour through. Cars absolutely whizz onto University avenue and you never know if they are going to stop at the zebra crossing either.

So no one is adhering to any ‘law’ here.