Cyclists to monitor Canberra motorists proximity in $58,000 four week project

So true. All these people outing themselves as selfish, self centred road users, who we would be better without on our roads.

If this is the attitude to cyclists, I hate to see them in traffic in general.

It doesn’t matter about their education either. I look at some of the profiles and thing “Jeepers, you should be smarter than that……”.

Did someone hack your account?

A lot of them are pretty bad – the section from stromlo dam to Civic is badly impacted by tree roots and cracking, as is the section from Antil St to ANU
It’s often a choice between riding standing up or taking your chances with ppl who hate you because you get to work faster, are fitter, and don’t pay a fortune for parking

Almost……the key word.

Easy get the motor vehicles off the road. Problem solved! ☺

Yes. Have you read how it works?

Steve William yes I wasn’t sure if it went both ways. I have no problem with it- I just wondered 😊 as the article only discusses tracking cyclists using their regular routes so I wasn’t sure about cyclist position on the road or cycle lane as well as traffic position. Now I’m over explaining my question 🤣

They tried once. Couldn’t find any.

Jimmy David the 1 – 1.5 metres that .motorists are supposed to keep away from cyclists. Often cyclists go much closer to cars.

Yes. Of course the devices can. Have a look at how they have set up the study.

So cyclists literally throw themselves in front of cars? The drivers aren’t being incompetent at all

Russell Nankervis when they go through red lights they do. 😉

Fewer cars, Russell, and less pollution …

Not every single cyclist goes through red lights and if they so they are breaking the law.

And they would all be run over…….

How can you spend money on homelessness from the road safety fund?

Steve William Good bazinga.

Steve William it is all public money and as such you miss the point. WASTEFUL

John Andriunas thank you very much for proving my comment. You are obviously a MAMIL. Until the playing field is levelled the appalling situation we currently have will continue.

Peter McMahon not a MAMIL! Quick to judge aren’t you. You should do a little learning before making comments. It helps to form valid opinions.

John Andriunas John 11:35. You would be no good at debating. Are you saying only bike rider can form a valid opinion. I would match my learning and life experiences against yours anytime. Until you accept that there are other points of opinion pedal hard or shut the …… up.

Peter McMahon i didn’t say that at all. Learning to read might help your level of comprehension. There certainly are other opinions but only valid if they aren’t build from fiction. Debating is generally conducted without use of swearing… just some food for thought for you. ☺

John Andriunas let me guess as to your profession. A teacher. So you are the reason I can’t read or write and can only build an opinion from fiction. Does not apply to me as I was schooled when education meant something. As I said when you and others of your minority group get the chip off your shoulder the better off ALL will be.

Peter McMahon making more stuff up. Again no idea! What minority group? Stop making things up it doesn’t resolve anything.

John Andriunas denial denial denial. In closing I award you the moron of the week plaque

Peter McMahon typical troll! Cant debate so you resort to name calling! Have a good one.

It’s legal to ride two abreast. It’s illegal to go within 1m.

Q to Scott Welsh: What would you rather pass, 6 riders stretched out in single file, or 6 two by two?

Seon Ferguson You must go into meltdown behind a ‘Jayco roadblock’ then.

So cyclists want their cake and want to be able to eat it Steve?

It is currently legal. But to claim that cars are being unsafe, when there is already not a lot of room to move and then say that reducing that room again is ok, is hypocritical. Everyone has a responsibility for safety on the roads and enjoyment/talking to your friend isn’t a reason to ignore safety. That goes for people driving vehicles.

Not a lot of room to move Scott? Surely you have driven in other cities. Canberra is a motorist’s paradise; some of the widest lanes I’ve seen. Not to mention traffic is usually quiet and so it is often safe enough to overtake by moving partially into the next lane if needs be.

We don’t want cake we want to be safe, because we don’t have 1-2 tonnes of metal to protect us if things go wrong.

Otis Tanner is riding 2 abreast as safe as single file with regards to width?

Depends entirely on how much space(width) the car passing is giving you.

These riders should be banned from the road.

As with many issues on the road it is about patience and tolerance. If you can’t pass safely then wait until it is safe to do so. Yes people make mistakes, both when they are driving and when they are riding. Yes other people may delay your trip, i would suggest that cars delay your commute more than bikes do.

Trouble being, they aren’t licensed or registered….totally anonymous….no rules except those that control motorists!!

Get the government to spend the rates that we all pay on sweeping up all the debris left from car crashes and Muppets throwing glass from vehicles and we might be able to ride more to the left

Michael Milton Exactly, people need to practice patience and tolerance.

Wait until it is safe to pass. Unless you absolutely want to run them over but I don’t condone such behavior

James – I only ride on the weekends but this is an issue. Rocks, tree branches and twigs big enough to cause an issue, glass, etc. I try to ride close to the edge but dodging rubbish is pretty important if a rider doesn’t want to come a cropper. Generally I find cars and even buses don’t bother with the 1.5m rule, even when they have a clear 2nd lane they could easily move into. Some times they seem to move even closer to the bike lane. This study is a great idea and yes, ACT Government please get the street sweepers out (at least monthly would be good).

it’s not about slowing down to avoid an accident…what I am referring to is everbody leaving a red light at the same time as a bikie, the said bikie could have moved left to allow normal traffic flow, but he will not move left even though there is room to do so….he just chose to ride 1mtr plus from the curb…no reason to do so…no broken glass, no tree branches, nothing…he just chose to ride that far out, the cars that left the light with him had to proceed at 15 kph or so just because the bikie wanted to ride that far from the curb…remember this is rush hour!! One push bikie and many cars…all moving at the pace the push bikie has dictated, he could have moved left but chose not to!! It was a deliberate act to hold up traffic because he has rights and motorists don’t!! just pure bloody mindedness….

So it’s ok for push bikies to run red lights, my two near collisions were solely caused by push bikies…one ran a red light while looking at the ground not the road, nor lights in front of him…the second push bikie chose to ride across me while I had right of way and he had the responsibility to stop…what did he do? Ride through the red light and made me stop just as I was leaving a green light…and not as soon as it turned green!! I always give time for morons to run the red before I proceed….but that still was only just enough time to allow for two push bikies to use the traffic light system the way they wanted, not the way the law says they should be used!! PUSH BIKIES NEED TO LEARN TO SHARE THE ROAD!!

James Jordan well said!

Martin Stanton and the two times I have been hit by cars the driver was charged as they were at fault. Your point was?

Tim they should be- a registration system for bikes would allow this to be followed up. As it now stands there is nothing to identify a bike or rider.

TWO out of many thousands of cyclists broke the rules so obviously every single one of them are bad. A bit bias don’t you think?

Just today I saw a car drive through a red light. There are both good and bad riders and drivers. The difference is though, if a person on a bike goes through a red light they are likely to harm themselves, but if a person in a car goes through a red light they are likely to kill someone. Most people on bikes can share the road, as can most drivers. However there are some car drivers that have great difficulty doing so. Comments such as yours illustrate this. How about the car driver yelling out the car window to get off the road and throwing stuff. I was on the bike path at the time. Most car drivers are fine, but there are some who just cannot share, even when the cyclist is NOT on the road. It’s not about being on the road; it’s existing.

Julie Macklin a car can be caught and fined for going through a red light from its numberplate. This can lead to a loss of licence. How does this work for bikes?

Two out of many thousands, Russell?! Joking; it’s the majority of cyclists who do this!! Wake up and look out!

Damien Brown Cars get away with it most of the time, and a car is a dangerous weapon. As you don’t get it I repeat,”The difference is though, if a person on a bike goes through a red light they are likely to harm themselves, but if a person in a car goes through a red light they are likely to kill someone.”

I’m happy for them to be on the road but agressive cyclists should be banned.

Tim Benson I would assume by that aggressive motor vehicle drivers should be banded as well

James Jordan they have a numberplate and road rules that get them points off their licence and can get them banned. How does this work with cyclists?

It would be great if there were enough well designed bicycle paths so people riding bicycles could avoid the road, but this network of paths doesn’t exist. I can guarantee if the money were spent to build this network of cycle paths, the same people who complain about people cycling on the roads would be complaining vigorously about the money being spent to build these bicycle paths. So predictable. Mention cyclist and they rush to find a complaint, even if it has to be made up or exaggerated. And only people on bikes do anything wrong; never mention the mistakes car drivers make. That would be too out of character.

I’ve got to say that writing this really got my blood boiling.