28 May 2008

Immigration Bridge

| Ivor Hardon
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The NCA and the ACT Government still want to build the so called Immigration Bridge from Lennox Gardens to the museum on Acton Peninsula.

The bridge will alienate a third of the area of West Basin from yachts and create a navigational hazard for other lake users such as rowers and kayakers.

It will destroy the vista of West Basin as seen from Commonwealth Bridge and replace it with a piece of architectural junk which will be there forever.

Canberrans neeed to be aware that this issue is very much alive and make our opinions known to the ACT Government.

At least email your local member.

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While the ACT Govt is at it they might like to build a memorial to legless lizards across the middle of the oval part of Bruce Stadium or something to commemorate Rex Jackson or other great Labor politicians of his ilk smack bang in the middle of the AIS Arena.

I’m not against the idea of a memorial of some sort but why f*** up a section of the lake by doing it. It was in WBG’s plan? Not if WBG was alive in 2009 it wasn’t.

You heard it here first, there will be a drowning or some sort of death associated with this bridge within 12 months of it being built. Its location sets itself up perfectly for it

On days where the wind is blowing from the west at 30Kts the larger boats in the sailing fleet go around the back of the museum so that they can put their sails up. It is extremely difficult for them to get out of the bay under wind power because it is so windy and so shallow in places. if this bridge goes ahead it could put forward dangers and problems that have never been faced before in this lake. Also who in their right mind would use this bridge. there is a perfectly good bridge very near by and where does this bridge really go to, It may seem a good idea to connect the museum to the southern shore of LBG but there is still a long walk from there to any where of much interest in the parliamentary triangle.
Young sailors use the western basin a lot this would just be another thing for them to hit on their maiden voyage.

It’s a footbridge, innit? Great for pub crawls, except there aren’t any pubs where it comes out at the Museum end. could build one, I suppose. And have a permanent station of water police under it to retrieve the showers of drunks falling off the thing.

oh and if they do build the bridge, it would help with a NYE crawl from the museum to the Hyatt. easier to get on the parkway from NMA….

Ivor Hardon said :

What a fabulous idea,a glass tunnel under the lake.That would bring in the tourists.Only problem is the water is so dirty that you wouldn’t be able to see any thing.How do you get a heritage listing for the lake to stop the monumentalists?

look I will keep saying it – drain the lake. clean it up, then let it re-fill. (they could get the foundations for the glass tunnel laid at the same time) and cut back the numbers of carp / weeds etc, as well as give the water to the community via free tanks for everyone…

I’d rather see sailboats on the lake than some retarded bridge that serves no function.

sepi said :

IF it is 12m high will it interfere with sailing?

If its 12m above water line than many of the sail boats will get under it. The lastest plans show 8 pylons holding the bridge up. The sailing school often use this area as it can be protected from the prevailing NW wind, the pylons will be a navigational challenge for the children and beginners to avoid.

I appreciated the post that objected to thinking about the lake as a playing field. IMO sailboats and other boats adds to the attractiveness of the lake, if would be nice if they could sail all over it but the are already restricted to the west end by the existing bridge heights.

For half the year there is organised sailing events at least 4 days per week, during winter this drops off to once a week. The rowers and dragon boaters are often out there training several days a week with the occasional events (however the rowers events are usually down the far west end.) Add to this the cruise boats and water taxi its a busy little waterway.

amarooresident5:07 pm 29 May 08

This proposal has been around since the museum was built. I think it formed part of the original plans but was dropped for cost reasons.

As for the sailors, surely the bridge will just form part of the challenge?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy4:49 pm 29 May 08

What a fabulous idea,a glass tunnel under the lake.That would bring in the tourists.Only problem is the water is so dirty that you wouldn’t be able to see any thing.

How dare you call rusty shopping trolleys, dead bodies and Queanbeyan sewage nothing?!?!

What a stupid idea by a stupid Government.

IF it is 12m high will it interfere with sailing?

CanberraResident3:18 pm 29 May 08

ah yes, thanks S4anta

Mr Resident,

Lennox Gardens are down behind the Hyatt hotel.

CanberraResident3:03 pm 29 May 08

Where is Lennox Gardens? Is it near the implosion incident across the lake from the old hospital? I’m trying to be tactful here.

Holden Caulfield10:38 am 29 May 08

Yeah, and I’m really going to take advice from someone with a username akin to IP Daley.

I like the idea of the glass tunnel. Maybe we can convince visitors that all of the crap on the lake is naturally occurring

MV Southern Cross is not 4 stories high. And it easily gets under Commonwealth Bridge.

Actually bein only 12 metres high… That is going to stop the MV Southern Cross (Floating Restaurant) from driving down to the main basin.

Also imagine all the idiots that are going to wreck it by jumping off it and graffiti’ing all over it… Once it goes dark – Canberra isn’t what it was during the day!

I have already contribited to the WOG bridge so frack off.

If concerns about protecting sailing is the biggest objection to this bridge, then I think it’s all but built. Yes, sailing good, but the lake’s reason d’etre is as the centrepiece of the national capital and its prominent institutions, not a place for people to sail. If the bridge makes the lake and the NMA more walkable and accessible, then I’m all for it.

@8 – rather than being a road through a playing field, I would have more thought it a landscaped path through a piece of parkland where people like to play touch on occasion.

shenanigans said :

…The Immigration bridge is not “architectural junk”. In fact it’s a very beautiful design. Furthermore, there was always a bridge in that spot on Walter Burley Griffin’s original design. We need something here to help people get across to the NMA, thereby completing the path of significant buildings by the lake.

So you might not be able to sail in that part of the lake? Boo hoo. Buy a rowboat.

Why would have Walter designed a bridge from Lenox Gardens to the hospital? Cause that’s what it originally was??!!

Obviously it didn’t happen for a good reason – so why try and revive a dead idea?

Sailing on that lake is the best – it’s the best lake in Canberra to sail on – why ruin it? Doesn’t seem fair – also how will the Governer Generals sailing races go with only half a lake! Hope the GG does something to save the yearly race on Australia day!!!! (I’m not to sure if it is the GG race – could be some other important figure – was a quick guess – so don’t quote me if i’m wrong!)

it’s an ‘immigration bridge’, so southsiders can emigrate to the people’s republic of the inner north using state-of-the-art streamlined visa procedures…

I think it has been proposed as a terrorist diversion – soon to be called Canberra Harbour Bridge – to give Al-Qaida a target to fly a plane into instead of than parliament house.

What a fabulous idea,a glass tunnel under the lake.That would bring in the tourists.Only problem is the water is so dirty that you wouldn’t be able to see any thing.How do you get a heritage listing for the lake to stop the monumentalists?

Surely they could design an arch bridge that could allow all types of boats to go underneath? And is the idea to get more people in Lennox Gardens? Is that going to be developed (eg-small business, government)? So many questions…

I think that a glass tunnel under the lake would be better, and potentially more symbolic (make of that as you will).

Woody Mann-Caruso2:21 pm 28 May 08

I heartily endorse this event or product.

There is already a similar concept running in Sydney called the “Welcome Wall” which is a national tribute to all immigrants. http://www.anmm.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=404

Sailing, rowing, kayaking and canoeing on LBG is a sport like any other. Canberra has youth teams that do very well at interstate and national events. We are pretty good for an inland city.

LBG isn’t the largest of lakes for water sports to take place and the bridge will be built across one of the largest sections of the lake. This area is often used when young people and beginners are learning as it is protected from prevailing winds and is free of obstructions. An example of this is when the childrens sailing programs are running and there will be a fleet of little sailboats full of kids on the lake in that area.

Building the bridge will be like putting a road through the middle of a sports oval, except there are not any other ovals which are as safe for our learners. Many of the sailboats are confined already to the western end because the bridges have been built too low for them to get under. Space for water activities in Canberra is limited already for those who enjoy that sport.

The Immigration bridge is not “architectural junk”. In fact it’s a very beautiful design. Furthermore, there was always a bridge in that spot on Walter Burley Griffin’s original design. We need something here to help people get across to the NMA, thereby completing the path of significant buildings by the lake.

Burley Griffin also wanted the city to build a grand pedestrian mall down to the lake where the obselete ferry terminal sits and a public edifice to be set there. Kate Carnell had a similar vision. The proposed bridge could run from that building to the hospital peninsula. Squabbles between the ACT Gov and NCA has left the foreshore as a wasteland instead of the shining jewel in Canberra Real Estate.

I remember seeing the plans when the Museum was being proposed, and there was always a bridge there. In the original design it was a continuation of the twirly bit outside the Museum. So, nothing new, they’ve just finally got the money to do it.

For anyone that’s tried getting to the museum sans car, this would be a great idea… but I can see how it’d inconvenience lake users as well.

areaman: there were models setup at Regatta Point for a while, the ‘Burley Griffin Plan’ that they had seemed impressive but it’s obviously going nowhere now.

Why is every post on this site seemingly AGAINST something?

The Immigration bridge is not “architectural junk”. In fact it’s a very beautiful design. Furthermore, there was always a bridge in that spot on Walter Burley Griffin’s original design. We need something here to help people get across to the NMA, thereby completing the path of significant buildings by the lake.

So you might not be able to sail in that part of the lake? Boo hoo. Buy a rowboat.

I think I’m for it, though I’d want to see what it’ll look like first. It’ll make it a lot easier to get to the NMA and tie it together with the rest of the national institutions in the parliamentary triangle

The money was to come from private donors – who in fact put the whole idea forward – although apparently “The project taking the form of a bridge was at the suggestion of the NCA”. Incidentally you’re better off addressing any bouquets or brickbats to the NCA, since they’re the relevant planning authority on this one.

I’m reserving judgement until I see the actual designs. The idea of better linking both Acton peninsula and the Lennox Gardens areas has merit, and I don’t subscribe to the idea that the boaties have sole ownership of LBG.

More info on the Immigration Bridge website, for those interested.

This kind of proposal is very puzzling. There doesn’t seem to be any good reason for it, it’d stuff up the lake, and it would cost a fortune. And perform no useful purpose.

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