25 June 2008

Wlliamsdale 500MW Power Station

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John Mackay must be reading Riot-Act. Several times I have said that the power station should be built at Williamsdale on Riot-Act. In fact I even think I said 500MW. Today on WIN news my plans were announced.

Hey John where is my consultants fee mate?

And Tom-Tom:

nyah, nyah, nyah

[ED – the CT has more substance to the story.

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>No Pandy, according to the plans the turbines would be one of the closest, if not the >closest structures to both Macarthur and Fadden. Somewhere around 600m away.

That was the boundary.

“Residents say the power plant would site nine 35 metre chimney stacks, 1 kilometre from houses.”

No Pandy, according to the plans the turbines would be one of the closest, if not the closest structures to both Macarthur and Fadden. Somewhere around 600m away.
The big data buildings would be unlikely to shield these suburbs from the turbines noise. The buildings are on the East (Monaro Hwy) and South (Isabella Drive) side of the block. If anything, their positioning would likely reflect the turbine noise towards the suburbs.
The Actew people have offered to sound proof the turbines “if” noise becomes an issue.
One more thing to note is that the data centre will not be built for a few years if at all. The turbines, on the other hand, would be erected immediately.

Miz, that Alice Springs unit stack (how big?) is 300m away from homes. In Tuggers, the stacks are what 900m away? And shielded by those big data buildings.

areaman said :

Why not build the data centre there too ?

Why, it’s in the middle of nowhere and would be a pain to commute to.

Ha. That didn’t stop them building the Defence HQ JOC in a much more remote spot. It opens for business in a few months, it’ll be 24 hours a day, on shifts of around 500 people or more, and NO public transport. And it’s lit up like a Christmas tree. Not noisy though, except the beepy machines going around at all hours doing whatever it is they do (pushing mud).

Pandy – Well done for the Williamsdale suggestion! PS the ‘scaled down’ Tuggers project is not canned (yet). (All they have to do is move it out of a green buffer zone into a real industrial area and everyone would be happy . . . )

Three gas turbines @15MW each (what the ‘scaled down’ data centre proposes) make more noise and pollution than you might expect – see link for ONE turbine here –

http://www.powerwater.com.au/powerwater/news/media_releases/2007/1001_noise_report_ron_goodin_power_station.htm

It caused so much distress it was moved far away.

It would be awful to have something this noisy and fumey over the back fence . . .

Clown Killer: Proof? And the EGP is already there.

Tom tom: This is what the project should have been in the 1st place. Mackay pulled this from the hat when his pet project for Tuggereanong got canned.

That would be comedy. A GTA style get away with the helicopter dropping out of sky as if controlled by a red frog fuelled four year old.

Nearly as funny as Rugby League players running for parliament.

So, why isn’t it being built next to the Gaol?

seems a prime site if ever they had one, no-one would complain about exhausts over the inmates….

and here’s another question:

re the Gaol location, will southcare be moving its base? seems a bit crazy to have a helicopter based next to a gaol…..

Its a datacentre. the only people who will work there, are those weird IT guys who dont do normal humans. Take them out of general population like kiddie fiddlers and corrupt police in the prison system.

Whatsup said :

It’s not like the back up generators at the datacenter are going to be a massive pollution source.

That first bit was supposed to be a quote.

It’s not like the back up generators at the datacenter are going to be a massive pollution source.

The back up generators are actually 3 x Gas fired turbines and there is more information still to come on the plume output. They might be OK but there is talk of more studies being done to confirm this one way or the other.

The Williamsdale proposal sounds reasonable at face value. Bring on the detail !

It is not in the middle of nowhere, it is 12 minutes from Hume. Harrison and Dunlop are in the middle of nowhere relatively speaking.

Why not build the data centre there too ?

Why, it’s in the middle of nowhere and would be a pain to commute to. It’s not like the back up generators at the datacenter are going to be a massive pollution source.

this is a completely different project champ

Common sense says Williamsdale is the place for it. Gas Pipeline, Trangrid infrastruture and low population density. Transgrid has to spend a heap of money there anyway to build a redundant power ring around the ACT, so it all makes sense. Why not build the data centre there too ?

Trench in fibre back to Canberra via the Monaro Highway and also back along the gas line for diversity and jobs done…..

Clown Killer11:00 am 25 Jun 08

Hate to burst your bubble Pandy but this has been on the cards for some time, possibly even longer than the Hume site … and at least as far back as the completion of the Eastern Gas Pipeline project – which it would seem is still going ahead as well.

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