A real Apple store for Canberra?

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

rosscoact said :

LOL, a Mac versus PC argument, enough said

+1. It’s akin the old Ford versus Holden thing.

Ford Prefect sucks. I’m much better.

c_c said :

Mysteryman said :

I’m also going to mention that I have to use a Mac Pro at work and I don’t like it. I would never buy one with my own money.

What do you mean you don’t like it?

It’s a tower with hard drives, a pair of CPUs, some ram and a DVD burner. It’s an effing computer (a very powerful one)

You surely mean you don’t like Mac OS, the actual think you interact with on the screen.

Considering that Mac hardware is sold with MacOS installed, it shouldn’t need to be said that in using the words “Mac Pro” I meant the OS as well.

But, if you really want to be picky, I think the hardware alone is very overpriced.

I am reading this on a first gen iPad that we’ve had for a couple of years. It is an amazing bit of technology and I really like it. I certainly have not seen or used a tablet which I would consider either better, or better value for money. I also have an iPhone, and while it is certainly a step up in technology from my previous semi-smart Nokia, it really isn’t any better when it comes to usability (things that work really well are cancelled out by the things you just plain can’t do, and after one year it is getting slow to respond and crashes a bit).

There are some pretty frustrating things that Apple have done with their products, quite deliberately, and thus, in my mind, have earned all the hate they receive and more.

For the record, I also hate Microsoft, IBM, and Nestle, but am somewhat ambivalent about Sony and Boeing.

Mysteryman said :

I’m also going to mention that I have to use a Mac Pro at work and I don’t like it. I would never buy one with my own money.

What do you mean you don’t like it?

It’s a tower with hard drives, a pair of CPUs, some ram and a DVD burner. It’s an effing computer (a very powerful one)

You surely mean you don’t like Mac OS, the actual think you interact with on the screen.

rosscoact said :

LOL, a Mac versus PC argument, enough said

+1. It’s akin the old Ford versus Holden thing.

LOL, a Mac versus PC argument, enough said

Eppo said :

Lazy I said :

garglebutt said :

In our house it’s known as paying up front rather than valuing my time at $0 per hour maintaining a Windows laptop.

+1

I find it funny that the people most vocal against owning Apple products have rarely (if at all) used/owned one themselves. I still constantly get jibes about single button mouse etc when I pull my laptop out at a client site, but every contractor I see on site now is carrying a Mac too.

The people who are running Macs now have no doubt run a Windows desktop/laptop so know what the alternative is. If for whatever reason they need to run Windows, Bootcamp is there out of the box (or VMWare Fusion). I have run OSX and Windows 95/98/2000/XP/7, for extended periods of time (and ran Linux exclusively for 3+ years for all the l33t hax0rs that want to one up me).. and I use OSX now and wouldn’t change if you paid me.

Ever since I started refusing to support family and friends if they ran Windows I have clawed my weekends back. I have converted 5+ family/friends to Mac from PC (during the Vista period it wasn’t difficult), and after a few initial questions to get up and running I don’t hear from them again.

Yep, they’re great for technological dunces and the image conscious.

Gamers and people who know what they’re doing are much better off on something windows based.

You’re so cool because you use a particular OS system for something useless like games.

I’m also going to mention that I have to use a Mac Pro at work and I don’t like it. I would never buy one with my own money.

Lazy I said :

garglebutt said :

In our house it’s known as paying up front rather than valuing my time at $0 per hour maintaining a Windows laptop.

+1

I find it funny that the people most vocal against owning Apple products have rarely (if at all) used/owned one themselves. I still constantly get jibes about single button mouse etc when I pull my laptop out at a client site, but every contractor I see on site now is carrying a Mac too.

The people who are running Macs now have no doubt run a Windows desktop/laptop so know what the alternative is. If for whatever reason they need to run Windows, Bootcamp is there out of the box (or VMWare Fusion). I have run OSX and Windows 95/98/2000/XP/7, for extended periods of time (and ran Linux exclusively for 3+ years for all the l33t hax0rs that want to one up me).. and I use OSX now and wouldn’t change if you paid me.

Ever since I started refusing to support family and friends if they ran Windows I have clawed my weekends back. I have converted 5+ family/friends to Mac from PC (during the Vista period it wasn’t difficult), and after a few initial questions to get up and running I don’t hear from them again.

Yep, they’re great for technological dunces and the image conscious.

Gamers and people who know what they’re doing are much better off on something windows based.

Great. Now we can all judge people even more based on where they shop.

garglebutt said :

In our house it’s known as paying up front rather than valuing my time at $0 per hour maintaining a Windows laptop.

+1

I find it funny that the people most vocal against owning Apple products have rarely (if at all) used/owned one themselves. I still constantly get jibes about single button mouse etc when I pull my laptop out at a client site, but every contractor I see on site now is carrying a Mac too.

The people who are running Macs now have no doubt run a Windows desktop/laptop so know what the alternative is. If for whatever reason they need to run Windows, Bootcamp is there out of the box (or VMWare Fusion). I have run OSX and Windows 95/98/2000/XP/7, for extended periods of time (and ran Linux exclusively for 3+ years for all the l33t hax0rs that want to one up me).. and I use OSX now and wouldn’t change if you paid me.

Ever since I started refusing to support family and friends if they ran Windows I have clawed my weekends back. I have converted 5+ family/friends to Mac from PC (during the Vista period it wasn’t difficult), and after a few initial questions to get up and running I don’t hear from them again.

With the addition of a real Apple store in Canberra I can direct everyone there for support if any questions do come up (no matter how trivial or complex).

As for MAC1.. it’s great to see their time is finally up.

In our house it’s known as paying up front rather than valuing my time at $0 per hour maintaining a Windows laptop.

Myles Peterson said :

“The very expensive fitout has been underway for a month…”

And we all know who’ll be paying for it.

Silly, silly sheeples.

+1

In our household it’s known as “Apple Tax”.

“The very expensive fitout has been underway for a month…”

And we all know who’ll be paying for it.

Silly, silly sheeples.

“dtc said :”

“Well, they can be useful at times. Fair Trading/consumer legislation is to ensure your product is in good condition when you buy it and lasts for as long as you would reasonably expect something of that type to last. An extended warranty past that period is useful. “

“However, a warranty that applies only for the period you would reasonably expect something to last doesnt give you any additional rights, it might make a claim easier.”

“Also, family members who wander around saying ‘you got ripped off you are so naive’ are great at Christmas lunch”

This from the ACT Office of Regulatory Services:

When asked to buy an extended warranty, ask what it would provide over and above your rights under the consumer guarantees. For example – A consumer buys a plasma television for $6,000.00. It stops working two years later. The supplier tells the consumer they have no rights to repairs or other remedy as the television was only under the manufacturer’s warranty for 12 months. The supplier says the consumer should have bought an extended warranty, which would have given 5 years cover.

A reasonable consumer would expect more than two years use from a television costing $6,000.00. Under the consumer guarantees, the consumer has a legal right to a remedy as the television is not of acceptable quality. The supplier may also have misled the consumer about their rights.

Madam Cholet said :

With all respect to your unsuspecting sister, when will people realise that the extended warranties are a waste of the paper they are written on – ask Fair Trading .A product should not turn up ot’s toes even in the extended warranty period. Or rather, when will retailers stop trying to rip us off with this? $150 for doing nothing – and they complain that customers are deserting them!!

Well, they can be useful at times. Fair Trading/consumer legislation is to ensure your product is in good condition when you buy it and lasts for as long as you would reasonably expect something of that type to last. An extended warranty past that period is useful.

However, a warranty that applies only for the period you would reasonably expect something to last doesnt give you any additional rights, it might make a claim easier.

Also, family members who wander around saying ‘you got ripped off you are so naive’ are great at Christmas lunch

…..she got stitched up with a 2 year contract at $30 a month for 1gb of data, paid full price for a 64gig 4g ipad3 plus $150 for an extended warranty.

With all respect to your unsuspecting sister, when will people realise that the extended warranties are a waste of the paper they are written on – ask Fair Trading .A product should not turn up ot’s toes even in the extended warranty period. Or rather, when will retailers stop trying to rip us off with this? $150 for doing nothing – and they complain that customers are deserting them!!

I have found Fair Trading (if that’s what they still call themselves), to be very helpful when getting no action from a retailer who sold us a dud DVD player. Anyone coming agains a stone wall in these situations should immediately roll out the “I’ll contact Fair Trading to see what my rights” are line.

johnboy said :

The very expensive fitout has been underway for a month, big cranes dropping heavy things into the building.

Thanks. Clearly, I need to get out more!

That should breathe some much needed (weekend) life into the non-Canberra Centre parts of Civic then.

The impact on Mac 1’s existing store will be worth monitoring too I suspect.

My sister went to JB all excited about getting a new iPad and made the rookie mistake of telling the salesman that she didn’t really know much about all this stuff. Naturally, she got stitched up with a 2 year contract at $30 a month for 1gb of data, paid full price for a 64gig 4g ipad3 plus $150 for an extended warranty. They also neglected to tell her that roaming overseas ( a main reason for buying it) would be so expensive to be basically not worth doing.

I know, my yarn has bugger all to do with the topic but if it keeps a few people out of JB then it was worth typing. Currently typing this on my new Ipad2 bought last week from Big W of all places. Not only were they the only place with foresight to order enough units to satisfy demand but they were $30 or $40 cheaper than anywhere else except Dick Smith. Got mum one for Mothers day too. The staff at Big W are no Genius’ but if you know what you want they’ll give you the easiest and cheapest buying experience. No hipsters there either.

Fliponout said :

Yes Apple is Opening a APPLE STORE – (NOT A MAC1)
The Apple Store will be open in July / August in Garema Place in the city Next Sizzle Bento were the music shop use to be…

Canberra finely becoming a Real City that big business will come to ?

Hmm, Garema Place, that could be interesting. You would think Apple would want to be in the Canberra Centre.

Where did you get that info?

Yes Apple is Opening a APPLE STORE – (NOT A MAC1)
The Apple Store will be open in July / August in Garema Place in the city Next Sizzle Bento were the music shop use to be…

Canberra finely becoming a Real City that big business will come to ?

c_c said :

The II and III and the peripherals weren’t mass products, they were geared for professionals and enthusiasts.

Er, the ][ was much more of a mass-market product than the Macintosh.

Your suggestion that Apple was only interested in selling the Mac once it was released just isn’t true, or the ][gs would never have been made.

ummmm_no said :

c_c said :

Grrrr said :

Actually, in 1984 the Mac was hardly Apple Computer’s only product. The ][, III series and the Lisas particularly. Then there were the non-platform specific accessories like the Profile HDD, the ImageWriter series of printers, etcetc.

I didn’t say they only had one product, I said you don’t set up a worldwide network of stores for a single product. By which I meant the Mac was the only product in the Apple line-up that was geared for the mass retail market.

The II and III and the peripherals weren’t mass products, they were geared for professionals and enthusiasts.
The Lisa was stillborn, the project largely abandoned and most of the units already built ended up write offs.

Google yourself a freakin’ clue, UniBoy.

The Lisa as a flop:

“The Lisa was doomed because it was basically a prototype — an overpriced, underpowered cobbled-together ramshackle Mac,” Cult of Mac author (and former Wired.com editor) Leander Kahney said in an e-mail interview. “Lisa taught the Mac team they’d need to articulate a clear purpose for the Mac.”

Apple spent $150 million developing Lisa but sold only 10,000 of them in a world dominated by cheaper IBM desktops. With an outrageous price tag of $10,000 (more than $21,000 in today’s leaf), the Lisa’s built-in calculator could tell you Apple lost a lot of money.

Lisa’s specs were improved and the price cut in half, but the plug was pulled in only three years. And — oh yeah — Apple co-founder Jobs got kicked off the Lisa team by CEO Scully and went to another project.”

http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/01/0119apple-unveils-lisa/

Apple II was commercially successful, sold about 5million or so, but was only big in the US. Big in education and business. There was a consumer market for it too, but for the era it wasn’t a mass consumer product. It was for enthusiasts for the time, relative to where most people were.
Put it this way, Visicalc wasn’t the killer app for most families.

Apple III was a commercial and technical failure.

Apple considered setting up stores for the Newton, however that project too was stillborn.

By the way, name calling makes you look like a fool.

c_c said :

Grrrr said :

Actually, in 1984 the Mac was hardly Apple Computer’s only product. The ][, III series and the Lisas particularly. Then there were the non-platform specific accessories like the Profile HDD, the ImageWriter series of printers, etcetc.

I didn’t say they only had one product, I said you don’t set up a worldwide network of stores for a single product. By which I meant the Mac was the only product in the Apple line-up that was geared for the mass retail market.

The II and III and the peripherals weren’t mass products, they were geared for professionals and enthusiasts.
The Lisa was stillborn, the project largely abandoned and most of the units already built ended up write offs.

Google yourself a freakin’ clue, UniBoy.

Grrrr said :

Actually, in 1984 the Mac was hardly Apple Computer’s only product. The ][, III series and the Lisas particularly. Then there were the non-platform specific accessories like the Profile HDD, the ImageWriter series of printers, etcetc.

I didn’t say they only had one product, I said you don’t set up a worldwide network of stores for a single product. By which I meant the Mac was the only product in the Apple line-up that was geared for the mass retail market.

The II and III and the peripherals weren’t mass products, they were geared for professionals and enthusiasts.
The Lisa was stillborn, the project largely abandoned and most of the units already built ended up write offs.

rosscoact said :

urchin said :

let’s hope the rumours are true. i’ve completely given up on mac 1…

I’ve had good service at the ANU branch but the Civic branch was the reason that I recently spent $2800 at apple.com.au

it was the any branch that drove me away but i’m sure that the overall spirit of the place is the same across most shops. i was just assuming that the only reason we didn’t have a mac store in canberra was because apple and mac1 had made some kind of arrangement, because if a mac store does open mac1 will go bust.

c_c said :

the Macintosh was only released in 1984. You don’t set up a worldwide network of stores just for a single product, much less set up so many stores you finally make it to Canberra.

Actually, in 1984 the Mac was hardly Apple Computer’s only product. The ][, III series and the Lisas particularly. Then there were the non-platform specific accessories like the Profile HDD, the ImageWriter series of printers, etcetc.

Frustrated said :

Once upon time in the 80s, there used to be an Apple store in Phillip. Not this new Mac1 type store or franchise either.

No.

Approved Systems used to be one of the major Apple resellers back in the day. They were in Colbee Court (IIRC) although I’m not sure when they started, but they were certainly going in the early 90s, so expect they could have started in the late 80s. If you ever got out the back of their office they had quite a few pre-Macintosh Apple machines gathering dust. Lisas, IIes and the like.

Mac 1 was also located in Phillip around a similar time at which point it was still attached to Green Advertising.

It would have to be in Civic, surely? There’s plenty of room, in any case.

Gungahlin Al said :

Why would it matter? Is an Apple product somehow different if purchased at a genuine Apple store instead of JB or Dick Smith? Would it do anything to address the undeclared price fixing on Apple products across all retailers?

If you need your iphone/ipad/whatever repaired or replaced under warranty, your options are to make an appointment with a “genius” (yes they are actually called that) at an Apple store and talk about it, where they may charge you the ~$180 fee or they may have it fixed for free, or you can submit a claim through the online service and definitely pay the fee and an extra $20 for postage.

IMO part of the attraction of Apple products is their aftersale care, so having a genuine Apple shop here so that we can experience that care is a good thing.

My god! A genuine Apple Store, what, here in Canberra? Anyone would think we were a capital city or something.

Frustrated said :

Once upon time in the 80s, there used to be an Apple store in Phillip. Not this new Mac1 type store or franchise either.

No, not likely. Aside from the 2001 format of Apple store being their first foray into retail, the Macintosh was only released in 1984. You don’t set up a worldwide network of stores just for a single product, much less set up so many stores you finally make it to Canberra.

Apple has always traditionally relied on dealers and the one in Philip would have been no different.

Once upon time in the 80s, there used to be an Apple store in Phillip. Not this new Mac1 type store or franchise either.

lindilou said :

DeskMonkey said :

I thought there was one already in the new part of the Canberra Centre (under Dendy).

Checked the Apple.com.au site : http://www.apple.com/jobs/au/retail.html if you look to the left there is no actual mention of a new Apple store in Canberra.
Because I was bored I went through the process of applying but there didn’t seem to be an indication of where the store is. I guess we have to hold our breath and wait

It is actually. You need to go one step further in finding where vacancies are.

No it doesn’t, just says Canberra.

DeskMonkey said :

I thought there was one already in the new part of the Canberra Centre (under Dendy).

Checked the Apple.com.au site : http://www.apple.com/jobs/au/retail.html if you look to the left there is no actual mention of a new Apple store in Canberra.
Because I was bored I went through the process of applying but there didn’t seem to be an indication of where the store is. I guess we have to hold our breath and wait

It is actually. You need to go one step further in finding where vacancies are.

Gungahlin Al said :

Why would it matter? Is an Apple product somehow different if purchased at a genuine Apple store instead of JB or Dick Smith? Would it do anything to address the undeclared price fixing on Apple products across all retailers?

It would be good to be able to get the support services that Apple provide. Plus a bit of competition will only benefit the consumer.

I did try JB but when they tried to pass off an 11″ Mac Air as a 13″ even though it said 11″ on the box I gave up. Does Dick Smith do Apple?

Bring it on! Somewhere for the hipsters to hang out and so reduce their numbers on the street.

Gungahlin Al said :

Why would it matter? Is an Apple product somehow different if purchased at a genuine Apple store instead of JB or Dick Smith? Would it do anything to address the undeclared price fixing on Apple products across all retailers?

Well, from Apples point of view, they are trying to control the retail ‘experience’ associated with their products by opening their own store for not only solely retail but also repair and even training. It’s all designed to hook customers and have them come back again and again spend more. Apparently it works quite well.

Why would it matter? Is an Apple product somehow different if purchased at a genuine Apple store instead of JB or Dick Smith? Would it do anything to address the undeclared price fixing on Apple products across all retailers?

rosscoact said :

urchin said :

let’s hope the rumours are true. i’ve completely given up on mac 1…

I’ve had good service at the ANU branch but the Civic branch was the reason that I recently spent $2800 at apple.com.au

ANU branch moved to under UniLodge so even closer to civic.

urchin said :

let’s hope the rumours are true. i’ve completely given up on mac 1…

I’ve had good service at the ANU branch but the Civic branch was the reason that I recently spent $2800 at apple.com.au

let’s hope the rumours are true. i’ve completely given up on mac 1…

Can we expect visitations from St. Steve? 😀

DeskMonkey said :

I thought there was one already in the new part of the Canberra Centre (under Dendy)

No – that’s a Mac 1 store

I thought there was one already in the new part of the Canberra Centre (under Dendy).

Checked the Apple.com.au site : http://www.apple.com/jobs/au/retail.html if you look to the left there is no actual mention of a new Apple store in Canberra.
Because I was bored I went through the process of applying but there didn’t seem to be an indication of where the store is. I guess we have to hold our breath and wait

trevar said :

c_c said :

This indignation is BS since most people don’t seem to mind questioning just how you can buy an HP or Toshiba laptop these days for under $700. Revelation people: they come from far worse sweatshops.

Settle, petal. It was a joke, not indignation! Paranoid much?

I love my iPhone as well as my Toshiba, and I am very grateful to all those folks who died so I could have them. I will observe an extra minute’s silence on Anzac Day before I get my iPhone back out to check in. 😀

lol, glad to hear.

Unfortunately most people who make a point about the worker conditions in my experience have been very serious about it.

This was rumoured a few years back to be located at Majura Park.

c_c said :

This indignation is BS since most people don’t seem to mind questioning just how you can buy an HP or Toshiba laptop these days for under $700. Revelation people: they come from far worse sweatshops.

Settle, petal. It was a joke, not indignation! Paranoid much?

I love my iPhone as well as my Toshiba, and I am very grateful to all those folks who died so I could have them. I will observe an extra minute’s silence on Anzac Day before I get my iPhone back out to check in. 😀

trevar said :

I wonder if we’ll get suicide nets too!?!?

That didn’t take long. Unfortunately what people forget is that Foxconn and other OEMs were making high price products for other big brands long before Apple came back to life.

In fact if you’ve picked up a Kindle, played on an Xbox, typed on a Sony VAIO or used any number of products from other brands, the same comment applies.

This indignation is BS since most people don’t seem to mind questioning just how you can buy an HP or Toshiba laptop these days for under $700. Revelation people: they come from far worse sweatshops.

I wonder if we’ll get suicide nets too!?!?