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ACT Housing continues to house those not entitled

By Fayne 14 September 2013 31

I was happy to hear that ACT Housing were asking people to leave or buy their house once their household income reached $80k.

However, I am disappointed that ACT housing are not enforcing this rule.

I know of a fulltime EL1, earning in excess of $100k who continues to live by herself in a four bedroom ACT Housing house in Mawson.

Being a nosy parker, I rang ACT Housing to report this situation, and was advised that ACT Housing will not force anyone to move, even to a smaller place; thus freeing up a family home.

I have family and friends who are sleeping rough. Also, I have friends who live in ACT Housing with three children in a 2 bedroom flat.

Why should a single woman keep a four bedroom house when she earns so much? The house is ideal for families, being close to schools the hospital and Woden Plaza.

Please be fair, ACT Housing. Children should not be enduring homelessness due to inability to enforce legislation.

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beardedclam 9:59 am 16 Sep 13

bigfeet said :

Maybe they could find a house for our Prime Minister elect?

He seems to be having trouble.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/tony-abbott-abandons-possuminfested-lodge-to-live-with-afp-recruits/story-fncynjr2-1226719448305

haha, I could imagine if Abbott had to sleep with the recruits at the college in Goulburn. Abbott would be rushing back to the dorm under the cloak of darkness because he missed curfew on his run home from Flamingo’s Nightclub

beardedclam 9:55 am 16 Sep 13

countach said :

There are many many ways for the undeserving to get free or nearly free housing from various government, and government funded agencies, not just ACT housing. If you waste your aggravation on all these situations, you’ll go crazy. Just pay your extortionate taxes, and be quiet like the government wants.

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Excellent advice. There are so many situations where others are receiving benefit when not entitled. Its not worth telling anyone about or worrying about because the ones responsible for enforcement just don’t do it, unless they have a vendetta and want to make the complainants life hell.

I seriously have given up worrying about others and what they are receiving and just look out for my family’s well being.

We dont even apply for any handouts or assistance schemes anymore because the agencies fuck it up, you complain and then get dragged through hell for the following 18 months in action taken against you for daring to comment on the 6 month delay.

breda 9:54 am 16 Sep 13

Yeahbuddy, it’s not a question of what you would prefer to pay, or what you think the market rent should be in a perfect world.

That house in Yarralumla was worth a lot more than the sanctimonious Green politician was paying, leaving aside the fact that people in genuine need were waiting in the queue.

YeahBuddy 9:36 am 16 Sep 13

A thought based on the whole “$300/week is not market rent” argument:

Have you seen most of the Public Housing stock? I wouldn’t pay more that $300 a week for most of them. And maybe its our over inflated property market making us think that $300 a week for a 3 bedroom/one living area/ one bathroom place is cheap.

wildturkeycanoe 7:14 am 16 Sep 13

eyeLikeCarrots said :

You have family and friends who are sleeping rough ?

You must really be an asshole to let them continue doing it.

Seeing that this really upsets you, are you volunteering then to assist in some way? Perhaps the OP is living in a 2 beddie with a couple of children themselves. Nice comment, real nice.

eyeLikeCarrots 8:55 pm 15 Sep 13

You have family and friends who are sleeping rough ?

You must really be an asshole to let them continue doing it.

no idea 8:00 pm 15 Sep 13

Where did you hear that people were being forced to leave govt housing at $80k? Have you read the legislation you claim isn’t being enforced? Can you provide a reference to it? As far as I can tell, you’re wrong: People are not asked to leave once their income reaches $N. All govt tenants are offered the chance to buy their property at independently-valued (IE market) price – and the $80k number you’ve heard is in the sale policy as the suggested point at which tenant is paying full market rent, and may be able to afford the purchase:
Sorry,but I can confirm you are asked to leave after that you are advised you have 26 weeks to vacate your govie, of course you can appeal etc or buy the old place at market price provided you meet the banks criteria etc.

When we moved into our govie we signed a 75 year lease! I had lost my job while waiting for an operation so could not find work yaddah yaddah, when we got back on our feet and tried to buy the property (valued at $100,000 ) the manager from housing laughed at us. Years later housing tried to sell the house to us for $450,000 at my age no thanks.

bigfeet 5:01 pm 15 Sep 13

Maybe they could find a house for our Prime Minister elect?

He seems to be having trouble.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/tony-abbott-abandons-possuminfested-lodge-to-live-with-afp-recruits/story-fncynjr2-1226719448305

Masquara 4:20 pm 15 Sep 13

ACT Housing has always been corrupt. Years ago I knew an ACT Housing manager, ‘RP’. He had all his mates from the South Coast allocated three-beddies in Yarralumla and Red Hill. Most of them are still occupying those houses and variously bought them cheap or are psying subsidised rent while on back pocket incomes. The fraud was endemic.

Darkfalz 1:49 pm 15 Sep 13

People on high incomes pay market rents in these houses, as I was before I left public housing 5-6 years ago. So it doesn’t really concern me. What concerns me is using public housing, Centrelink income and subsidised rent as a percentage of it as an excuse never to better yourself. The number of trouble making 20 somethings in public housing bothers me a lot more than a few people paying market rents.

Grrrr 1:28 pm 15 Sep 13

Fayne said :

blah blah fraud blah blah

Continuing to live in govvie housing with above-average income is not fraud because people like the EL1 you know pay rent according to their income, up to market value. Thus the govt makes money from such people, which they can use to – funnily enough – provide more housing.

Other posters here believe that the govt isn’t pricing the rent at market rates, and if so that requires fixing – but even if it’s true it’s hardly the fault of the legislation.

Where did you hear that people were being forced to leave govt housing at $80k? Have you read the legislation you claim isn’t being enforced? Can you provide a reference to it? As far as I can tell, you’re wrong: People are not asked to leave once their income reaches $N. All govt tenants are offered the chance to buy their property at independently-valued (IE market) price – and the $80k number you’ve heard is in the sale policy as the suggested point at which tenant is paying full market rent, and may be able to afford the purchase:
http://www.dhcs.act.gov.au/hcs/buying

My real gripe is with people like my previous govt-tenant neighbour who spend their dole on booze and drugs, and have no interest in getting an income .. so, they don’t contribute anything to anyone.

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