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ACTPLA Gets Caned Yet Again

By 54-11 17 July 2013 72

Yet again, ACTPLA has been caught out approving a development that is non-compliant with their own rules. 

The ACAT found that there were so many things wrong that, even if they imposed a number of conditions to achieve improved outcomes, it was still so far removed from compliant that the DA must be refused.

What troubles me about these cases is that most neighbours don’t even bother checking what the effects of developments are, and even if they are convinced that the development should not be approved, very few go to all the stress, expense and trouble of going to ACAT.

I wonder just how many non-compliant DAs are going through ACTPLA.  Given the success rate in ACAT, it would be safe to assume that there are plenty more like this that are never examined by an independent third party.

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dungfungus 8:45 am 17 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

dungfungus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

dungfungus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

dungfungus said :

NoImRight said :

dungfungus said :

Probably unknown to most Monash residents, ACTPLA approved extensive additions to the Canberra Islamic Centre in that suburb on 1/2/2013 which essentially allows it to become a mosque. The additions include enlarging space for the Australian National Islamic Library, accommodation for a full time Imam, a room for washing the deceased prior to burial and a minaret with no provision for loud speakers (this could mean the Adhan will be a live performance).
Also provision for 189 car spaces.
The original lease was granted to the Islam community in 1993 so a cultural centre for the social, spiritual, recreational, welfare and religious needs of the ACT community could be established.
The CIC website now says “In response to the members’ religious needs, the CIC has been holding regular daily congregational prayers as well as Friday and Eid prayers”
Anyone who drives past there on a Friday will be aware of the large number of cars parked in the vicinity.
The Ultimate Ummah Directory (The Muslim’s Guide) refers to the CIC in Monash as a mosque.
I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

OMG! OMG! OMG! NOOOOOO!!!

Actually, you will soon be saying OMA (Oh My Allah). You may well mock what I say now but let’s revisit this site in 5 years time and see what has happened.

What do you think will have happened I five years?

The same that has happened in some parts of Europe and the UK. What do you think will have happened?

I think it will be pretty much the same it is as now, although maybe a hell of a lot more peeps on welfare due to the liberal government.

Can you tell. E what you think has happened in some parts of Europe and the uk?

If you are to lazy and go there and find out yourself then there is always the internet. Even the Guardian knows it.

That is not a answer to my very simple question

With you, simple is the operative word.
You know very well what is going on in Europe in respect of Islamisation but you can only relate to links on the internet which you are too lazy to seek (unless it supports whatever you are disagreeing with) How about you find some links on the internet that debunk what I am telling you?
Unlike you, I have been to Europe almost every year for the past 10 years and I have seen it first hand.
I suppose you now want screen shots of my travel itinerary and photos?

LOL at this then.
http://www.cbn.com/tv/embedplayer.aspx?bcid=1509282970001

dungfungus 9:55 am 05 Mar 14

Walker said :

dungfungus said :

Jazz said :

heaven forbid people form an opinion that doesnt need to quote a source

Even Jazz is a Christian. God bless you Jazz.

Dungfungus, are you a Christian?

I am today.

dungfungus 8:11 am 05 Mar 14

thatsnotme said :

Walker said :

Dungfungus, and Moderators,

While I realise we entertain ourselves (somewhat) with the various antics and redirections, may I suggest dungfungus start another post on this proposed Islamic centre, so that this topic can go back to the more or less main point of relevance to most locals…

…and that we do so for anything else dungfungus and others care to hijack?

I do not wish to curtail his freedom fries. Hell, we’ve got a criminal organisation stooge on the books (you know the one). So it’s clear riotact doesn’t want to clamp down too hard on it. Fair enough I suppose. More keyboard wrangling for the keen. More ad exposure to riotact.

(Although you might lose custom on account of the fact ordinary folk might hesitate to partake in a community site that is at times populated by some very strange views and bizarre user names pertaining to said illegal organisations).

Think about it some. Could get the best of all of it. People can carry on. But people who are interested in the topic – shitty planning and dodgy builders whatever – can keep at it without being put off having to navigate endless streams of side stories.

What say you, dungfungus, and moderator? Splitting topics out as a navigational aid, and so that people can cue something up without being lost in someone’s bullshit (unless they want to). This could increase your market share, without scaring off folks that just want to have a say and side step some (if not all) of the trashers.

Is this a useful idea for riotact?

AMEN!!

It seems these days the only moderation that happens here is to cover the RA’s arse, there’s certainly nothing happening to try to improve the quality of the discourse.

I’m amazed that the place is trying to find a buyer. The way things are around here these days, it’d be like trying to find someone who wanted to buy the comments sections from news.com.au …

Once again, I do not parrot what may be said on news.com.au.
I read the Canberra Times (or what now should bereferred to as Fairfax Media’s Canberra edition) and watch the ABC but after the (predictable) disgusting comments made by panelist Marieke Harvey on First Book Club last night regarding “clean smelling anuses” I will check what is on other channels at that time in future.
You should watch it on iview – your comment “cover RA’s arse” would seem to indicate you have a fixation on that part of the anatomy also.

dungfungus 7:56 am 05 Mar 14

thatsnotme said :

Walker said :

Dungfungus, and Moderators,

While I realise we entertain ourselves (somewhat) with the various antics and redirections, may I suggest dungfungus start another post on this proposed Islamic centre, so that this topic can go back to the more or less main point of relevance to most locals…

…and that we do so for anything else dungfungus and others care to hijack?

I do not wish to curtail his freedom fries. Hell, we’ve got a criminal organisation stooge on the books (you know the one). So it’s clear riotact doesn’t want to clamp down too hard on it. Fair enough I suppose. More keyboard wrangling for the keen. More ad exposure to riotact.

(Although you might lose custom on account of the fact ordinary folk might hesitate to partake in a community site that is at times populated by some very strange views and bizarre user names pertaining to said illegal organisations).

Think about it some. Could get the best of all of it. People can carry on. But people who are interested in the topic – shitty planning and dodgy builders whatever – can keep at it without being put off having to navigate endless streams of side stories.

What say you, dungfungus, and moderator? Splitting topics out as a navigational aid, and so that people can cue something up without being lost in someone’s bullshit (unless they want to). This could increase your market share, without scaring off folks that just want to have a say and side step some (if not all) of the trashers.

Is this a useful idea for riotact?

AMEN!!

It seems these days the only moderation that happens here is to cover the RA’s arse, there’s certainly nothing happening to try to improve the quality of the discourse.

I’m amazed that the place is trying to find a buyer. The way things are around here these days, it’d be like trying to find someone who wanted to buy the comments sections from news.com.au …

My original posts questioned the ACT Labor Government extending special planning concessions to the CIC. The thread was titled “ACTPLA gets caned yet again” and it was entirely appropriate to use this as a follow on.
The problem with memtioning Islam or Muslim means the that one risks being branded a racist, bigot etc. If I started a thread about the CIC alone I would have been seen to be having a vendetta against the CIC only when the planning decisions and concessions were made by the ACT Labor Government.
Instead of agonising over whether a separate thread should have been started you should be questioning why no one from the ACT Labor Government or CIC has made a comment to defend the concessional decisions that were made.

thatsnotme 10:13 pm 04 Mar 14

Walker said :

Dungfungus, and Moderators,

While I realise we entertain ourselves (somewhat) with the various antics and redirections, may I suggest dungfungus start another post on this proposed Islamic centre, so that this topic can go back to the more or less main point of relevance to most locals…

…and that we do so for anything else dungfungus and others care to hijack?

I do not wish to curtail his freedom fries. Hell, we’ve got a criminal organisation stooge on the books (you know the one). So it’s clear riotact doesn’t want to clamp down too hard on it. Fair enough I suppose. More keyboard wrangling for the keen. More ad exposure to riotact.

(Although you might lose custom on account of the fact ordinary folk might hesitate to partake in a community site that is at times populated by some very strange views and bizarre user names pertaining to said illegal organisations).

Think about it some. Could get the best of all of it. People can carry on. But people who are interested in the topic – shitty planning and dodgy builders whatever – can keep at it without being put off having to navigate endless streams of side stories.

What say you, dungfungus, and moderator? Splitting topics out as a navigational aid, and so that people can cue something up without being lost in someone’s bullshit (unless they want to). This could increase your market share, without scaring off folks that just want to have a say and side step some (if not all) of the trashers.

Is this a useful idea for riotact?

AMEN!!

It seems these days the only moderation that happens here is to cover the RA’s arse, there’s certainly nothing happening to try to improve the quality of the discourse.

I’m amazed that the place is trying to find a buyer. The way things are around here these days, it’d be like trying to find someone who wanted to buy the comments sections from news.com.au …

Walker 8:40 pm 04 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

Jazz said :

heaven forbid people form an opinion that doesnt need to quote a source

Even Jazz is a Christian. God bless you Jazz.

Dungfungus, are you a Christian?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 7:27 pm 04 Mar 14

NoImRight said :

Jazz said :

heaven forbid people form an opinion that doesnt need to quote a source

People can have whatever opinions they like without any evidence at all. Its when they differentiate by saying something is a fact that it all gets ugly. No problem with someone saying “I think Frisbeetarianism is a pants belief system” but saying “All Frisbeetarians drown puppies as a hobby so should all be shot on sight” you’re raising the stakes. It can be a subtle difference at times and no doubt some pedant will labour the point Im trying to make and deliberately not understand just to continue to rant.

Personally I despair of anyone whose opinion on something major is not based at least in part of fact but thats just me. 🙂

Yeah, peeps need to learn the difference between opinions and facts. Opinions are often wrong, while facts, well they are never wrong.

dungfungus 6:38 pm 04 Mar 14

Jazz said :

I dont get accused of that very often

The Spanish Inquisitions finshed 500 years ago so relax.

NoImRight 4:36 pm 04 Mar 14

Jazz said :

heaven forbid people form an opinion that doesnt need to quote a source

People can have whatever opinions they like without any evidence at all. Its when they differentiate by saying something is a fact that it all gets ugly. No problem with someone saying “I think Frisbeetarianism is a pants belief system” but saying “All Frisbeetarians drown puppies as a hobby so should all be shot on sight” you’re raising the stakes. It can be a subtle difference at times and no doubt some pedant will labour the point Im trying to make and deliberately not understand just to continue to rant.

Personally I despair of anyone whose opinion on something major is not based at least in part of fact but thats just me. 🙂

dungfungus 4:11 pm 04 Mar 14

Jazz said :

heaven forbid people form an opinion that doesnt need to quote a source

Even Jazz is a Christian. God bless you Jazz.

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