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ACTPLA Gets Caned Yet Again

By 54-11 - 17 July 2013 72

Yet again, ACTPLA has been caught out approving a development that is non-compliant with their own rules. 

The ACAT found that there were so many things wrong that, even if they imposed a number of conditions to achieve improved outcomes, it was still so far removed from compliant that the DA must be refused.

What troubles me about these cases is that most neighbours don’t even bother checking what the effects of developments are, and even if they are convinced that the development should not be approved, very few go to all the stress, expense and trouble of going to ACAT.

I wonder just how many non-compliant DAs are going through ACTPLA.  Given the success rate in ACAT, it would be safe to assume that there are plenty more like this that are never examined by an independent third party.

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ACTPLA Gets Caned Yet Again
Masquara 1:37 pm 01 Mar 14

tim_c said :

As I heard someone say last year: “You really have to wonder if there might be some sort of corruption going on in ACTPLA…”

Yes, I heard someone say the same thing!

Deref 11:56 am 01 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

In a Christian country, you can take the Lord’s name in vain and no one cares anymore.

Which country would that be, then?

Pork Hunt 6:47 pm 28 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

NoImRight said :

dungfungus said :

Probably unknown to most Monash residents, ACTPLA approved extensive additions to the Canberra Islamic Centre in that suburb on 1/2/2013 which essentially allows it to become a mosque. The additions include enlarging space for the Australian National Islamic Library, accommodation for a full time Imam, a room for washing the deceased prior to burial and a minaret with no provision for loud speakers (this could mean the Adhan will be a live performance).
Also provision for 189 car spaces.
The original lease was granted to the Islam community in 1993 so a cultural centre for the social, spiritual, recreational, welfare and religious needs of the ACT community could be established.
The CIC website now says “In response to the members’ religious needs, the CIC has been holding regular daily congregational prayers as well as Friday and Eid prayers”
Anyone who drives past there on a Friday will be aware of the large number of cars parked in the vicinity.
The Ultimate Ummah Directory (The Muslim’s Guide) refers to the CIC in Monash as a mosque.
I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

OMG! OMG! OMG! NOOOOOO!!!

Actually, you will soon be saying OMA (Oh My Allah). You may well mock what I say now but let’s revisit this site in 5 years time and see what has happened.

Ou contraire, it doesn’t matter what he is called with Abrahamic religions because they have the same god.
I say “he” because the last time I looked, they did not seem to think that god could be a “she”…

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 5:24 pm 28 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

NoImRight said :

dungfungus said :

Probably unknown to most Monash residents, ACTPLA approved extensive additions to the Canberra Islamic Centre in that suburb on 1/2/2013 which essentially allows it to become a mosque. The additions include enlarging space for the Australian National Islamic Library, accommodation for a full time Imam, a room for washing the deceased prior to burial and a minaret with no provision for loud speakers (this could mean the Adhan will be a live performance).
Also provision for 189 car spaces.
The original lease was granted to the Islam community in 1993 so a cultural centre for the social, spiritual, recreational, welfare and religious needs of the ACT community could be established.
The CIC website now says “In response to the members’ religious needs, the CIC has been holding regular daily congregational prayers as well as Friday and Eid prayers”
Anyone who drives past there on a Friday will be aware of the large number of cars parked in the vicinity.
The Ultimate Ummah Directory (The Muslim’s Guide) refers to the CIC in Monash as a mosque.
I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

OMG! OMG! OMG! NOOOOOO!!!

Actually, you will soon be saying OMA (Oh My Allah). You may well mock what I say now but let’s revisit this site in 5 years time and see what has happened.

What do you think will have happened I five years?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 5:24 pm 28 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

Probably unknown to most Monash residents, ACTPLA approved extensive additions to the Canberra Islamic Centre in that suburb on 1/2/2013 which essentially allows it to become a mosque. The additions include enlarging space for the Australian National Islamic Library, accommodation for a full time Imam, a room for washing the deceased prior to burial and a minaret with no provision for loud speakers (this could mean the Adhan will be a live performance).
Also provision for 189 car spaces.
The original lease was granted to the Islam community in 1993 so a cultural centre for the social, spiritual, recreational, welfare and religious needs of the ACT community could be established.
The CIC website now says “In response to the members’ religious needs, the CIC has been holding regular daily congregational prayers as well as Friday and Eid prayers”
Anyone who drives past there on a Friday will be aware of the large number of cars parked in the vicinity.
The Ultimate Ummah Directory (The Muslim’s Guide) refers to the CIC in Monash as a mosque.
I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

And the problem is?

dungfungus 3:29 pm 28 Feb 14

Pitchka said :

dungfungus said :

I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

Allah is a sneaky mofo!!

The main difference between the “religious” part of Islam and Christianity is the degree of tolerance.
There is no tolerance for speaking ill of Allah in the eyes of Islam so if you said what you did in an Islamic country you would be physically subdivided immediately.
In a Christian country, you can take the Lord’s name in vain and no one cares anymore.
You will care again, in time.

dungfungus 3:25 pm 28 Feb 14

NoImRight said :

dungfungus said :

Probably unknown to most Monash residents, ACTPLA approved extensive additions to the Canberra Islamic Centre in that suburb on 1/2/2013 which essentially allows it to become a mosque. The additions include enlarging space for the Australian National Islamic Library, accommodation for a full time Imam, a room for washing the deceased prior to burial and a minaret with no provision for loud speakers (this could mean the Adhan will be a live performance).
Also provision for 189 car spaces.
The original lease was granted to the Islam community in 1993 so a cultural centre for the social, spiritual, recreational, welfare and religious needs of the ACT community could be established.
The CIC website now says “In response to the members’ religious needs, the CIC has been holding regular daily congregational prayers as well as Friday and Eid prayers”
Anyone who drives past there on a Friday will be aware of the large number of cars parked in the vicinity.
The Ultimate Ummah Directory (The Muslim’s Guide) refers to the CIC in Monash as a mosque.
I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

OMG! OMG! OMG! NOOOOOO!!!

Actually, you will soon be saying OMA (Oh My Allah). You may well mock what I say now but let’s revisit this site in 5 years time and see what has happened.

Pitchka 11:04 am 28 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

Allah is a sneaky mofo!!

NoImRight 10:19 am 28 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

Probably unknown to most Monash residents, ACTPLA approved extensive additions to the Canberra Islamic Centre in that suburb on 1/2/2013 which essentially allows it to become a mosque. The additions include enlarging space for the Australian National Islamic Library, accommodation for a full time Imam, a room for washing the deceased prior to burial and a minaret with no provision for loud speakers (this could mean the Adhan will be a live performance).
Also provision for 189 car spaces.
The original lease was granted to the Islam community in 1993 so a cultural centre for the social, spiritual, recreational, welfare and religious needs of the ACT community could be established.
The CIC website now says “In response to the members’ religious needs, the CIC has been holding regular daily congregational prayers as well as Friday and Eid prayers”
Anyone who drives past there on a Friday will be aware of the large number of cars parked in the vicinity.
The Ultimate Ummah Directory (The Muslim’s Guide) refers to the CIC in Monash as a mosque.
I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

OMG! OMG! OMG! NOOOOOO!!!

dungfungus 9:07 am 28 Feb 14

Probably unknown to most Monash residents, ACTPLA approved extensive additions to the Canberra Islamic Centre in that suburb on 1/2/2013 which essentially allows it to become a mosque. The additions include enlarging space for the Australian National Islamic Library, accommodation for a full time Imam, a room for washing the deceased prior to burial and a minaret with no provision for loud speakers (this could mean the Adhan will be a live performance).
Also provision for 189 car spaces.
The original lease was granted to the Islam community in 1993 so a cultural centre for the social, spiritual, recreational, welfare and religious needs of the ACT community could be established.
The CIC website now says “In response to the members’ religious needs, the CIC has been holding regular daily congregational prayers as well as Friday and Eid prayers”
Anyone who drives past there on a Friday will be aware of the large number of cars parked in the vicinity.
The Ultimate Ummah Directory (The Muslim’s Guide) refers to the CIC in Monash as a mosque.
I don’t recall the Canberra Times reporting on this or any media releases from the Minister.
It is a giant step to go from a cultural centre to a mosque and I can see why it has been done with stealth without the usual community consultation.

RedDogInCan 3:47 pm 18 Jul 13

Martlark said :

A bogus breach that has prevented proper provision of better and more housing than what was there.

Sorry, but the original houses were infinitely better than cold, dark, and dank apartments with little access to outdoor space.

Martlark said :

Solar access has become an expensive mill stone around the necks of ordinary folk developers trying get build affordable cheap and accessable crowded housing.

There, I fixed that for you.

Martlark 2:04 pm 18 Jul 13

Quote CT ..The tribunal found the breaches meant many of the units did not have proper solar access…

A bogus breach that has prevented proper provision of better and more housing than what was there. Solar access has become an expensive mill stone around the necks of ordinary folk trying get affordable and accessable housing.

Grail 11:48 am 18 Jul 13

Never attribute to corruption what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence and laziness.

tim_c 10:14 am 18 Jul 13

As I heard someone say last year: “You really have to wonder if there might be some sort of corruption going on in ACTPLA…”

54-11 10:24 am 17 Jul 13
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