13 February 2014

Alicia's fight for life

13 February 2014 | Sgt.Bungers

Alica Hi RA, been a while since I’ve posted here but I’ve certainly been lurking from time to time. Great to see very little has changed 🙂

I’m hoping I’ve caught some of you in a generous mood as I’m about to do something I’ve never done before… that is, reach out to the internet and ask for donations.

A childhood friend of mine who grew up in Weston Creek has recently been diagnosed with an aggressive form of cancer. She’s in her late 20’s, and her prognosis is not good.

A treatment offered in Germany has given her a ray of hope, however the treatment is expensive, hence the requests for donations.

Please take a moment to read about Alicia’s fight at the website her family has created. If you feel compelled to donate, even a dollar or two, every little bit will count and will be greatly appreciated.

http://www.aliciasfight.com

Thanks in advance RiotACT.

Alex.

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Masquara4:49 pm 23 Feb 14

https://www.facebook.com/AliciasFightForLife

There is an update on the Facebook page. Dunno about anyone else, but I’d be grasping at straws and seeking treatment in Germany if I was in Alicia’s shoes. I hope it works, even if it’s a placebo thing.

Nylex_Clock11:28 am 19 Feb 14

imhotep said :

Nylex_Clock said :

Digging a bit, I reckon the treatment they are looking at is,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catumaxomab
Still in clinical trials in the US, approved for use in Germany, in this case at this clinic:
http://www.germancancertreatments.com/treatments-at-hallwang-clinic/

Looks like a fair-dinkum evidence-based medical centre, although it doesn’t seem to discourage its patients belief in variuous jumbo-jumbos, and even supports their irrational belief by calling their chemotherapies “bio-” therapies.

Expensive though, especially when you’re just paying for experimental medicine that doesn’t seem to hold out much in the way of hope for people who are that desperate they are willing to try it.

I would much rather my taxes were spent on developing effective therapies and providing them under medicare than in giving Rupert Murdoch billion-dollar windfalls. Or tax breaks for billionaires who make their money by doing nothing more useful than digging up Australian rocks and selling them to the Chinese.

So, on this thread you have shifted your opinion from ”sounds like a scam’ to ‘sounds like a dodgy foreign doctor’ and now the best you’ve got is ‘expensive’ and some bizarre political rant involving Murdoch.

Why don’t you go away and come back when you’ve made a final decision as to why she’s not getting any of YOUR money. Or better still, go away and don’t come back at all.

I doubt anybody is particularly interested in your thought processes.

It’s called being sceptical and seeking to be informed. If people want to start begging for money, they better expect a bit of scrutiny.

imhotep5:52 pm 18 Feb 14

Nylex_Clock said :

Digging a bit, I reckon the treatment they are looking at is,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catumaxomab
Still in clinical trials in the US, approved for use in Germany, in this case at this clinic:
http://www.germancancertreatments.com/treatments-at-hallwang-clinic/

Looks like a fair-dinkum evidence-based medical centre, although it doesn’t seem to discourage its patients belief in variuous jumbo-jumbos, and even supports their irrational belief by calling their chemotherapies “bio-” therapies.

Expensive though, especially when you’re just paying for experimental medicine that doesn’t seem to hold out much in the way of hope for people who are that desperate they are willing to try it.

I would much rather my taxes were spent on developing effective therapies and providing them under medicare than in giving Rupert Murdoch billion-dollar windfalls. Or tax breaks for billionaires who make their money by doing nothing more useful than digging up Australian rocks and selling them to the Chinese.

So, on this thread you have shifted your opinion from ”sounds like a scam’ to ‘sounds like a dodgy foreign doctor’ and now the best you’ve got is ‘expensive’ and some bizarre political rant involving Murdoch.

Why don’t you go away and come back when you’ve made a final decision as to why she’s not getting any of YOUR money. Or better still, go away and don’t come back at all.

I doubt anybody is particularly interested in your thought processes.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd12:52 pm 18 Feb 14

Stormfront Org said :

Masquara said :

here’s a facebook page and it doesn’t look scammy in the least. As fundraisers go, if people are prepared to donate and it’s genuine – albeit misguided – I don’t see how this all warrants nastiness…But calling Alicia’s supporters scammers is really low. Let it be on your conscience whether you spared a thought for the poor thing, or made a mockery of her.

You can look up on the internet, AFP had report somewhere that it is people like you, very gullible, who fall for scams. In 2013, there are plenty of wankers who believed that “Windows technical support” genuinely called them and offered to fix their machines. Almost 100K were “fleeced”, amounts ranging from $20 to almost 1K (average-just under 300). I think AFP were planning on publishing report.

Here’s another old, but interesting one:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/scammers-fleece-canberrans-out-of-33m-20130617-2oczy.html

Shows you that ACT still has plenty of desperate, dumb losers.
So it always pays to check before supporting any claims.

LOL @ a white supremacist calling anybody a desperate dumb loser.

Give your self a uppercut.

Nylex_Clock11:13 am 18 Feb 14

Digging a bit, I reckon the treatment they are looking at is,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catumaxomab
Still in clinical trials in the US, approved for use in Germany, in this case at this clinic:
http://www.germancancertreatments.com/treatments-at-hallwang-clinic/

Looks like a fair-dinkum evidence-based medical centre, although it doesn’t seem to discourage its patients belief in variuous jumbo-jumbos, and even supports their irrational belief by calling their chemotherapies “bio-” therapies.

Expensive though, especially when you’re just paying for experimental medicine that doesn’t seem to hold out much in the way of hope for people who are that desperate they are willing to try it.

I would much rather my taxes were spent on developing effective therapies and providing them under medicare than in giving Rupert Murdoch billion-dollar windfalls. Or tax breaks for billionaires who make their money by doing nothing more useful than digging up Australian rocks and selling them to the Chinese.

Stormfront Org8:50 am 18 Feb 14

The link to ACCC’s report in CT article is broken, here’s direct link:
https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Targeting%20scams%202012.pdf

Stormfront Org8:42 am 18 Feb 14

Masquara said :

here’s a facebook page and it doesn’t look scammy in the least. As fundraisers go, if people are prepared to donate and it’s genuine – albeit misguided – I don’t see how this all warrants nastiness…But calling Alicia’s supporters scammers is really low. Let it be on your conscience whether you spared a thought for the poor thing, or made a mockery of her.

You can look up on the internet, AFP had report somewhere that it is people like you, very gullible, who fall for scams. In 2013, there are plenty of wankers who believed that “Windows technical support” genuinely called them and offered to fix their machines. Almost 100K were “fleeced”, amounts ranging from $20 to almost 1K (average-just under 300). I think AFP were planning on publishing report.

Here’s another old, but interesting one:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/scammers-fleece-canberrans-out-of-33m-20130617-2oczy.html

Shows you that ACT still has plenty of desperate, dumb losers.
So it always pays to check before supporting any claims.

Masquara8:25 pm 17 Feb 14

gorinosho said :

Who IS AliciasFlight.com? The suspicions were enough for me to look into it a bit further. First, the domain lookups for aliciasflight.org don’t mean anything, since that is not the domain in question!

1. Go to http://www.whois.com/whois/aliciasfight.com
You will see the domain is registered to Amanda Johnson, with contact details referring to Amanda Johnson. If you ring the mobile phone number listed, it is voicemail for one Carl Johnson, in Clear Island Waters QLD (aka Surfers Paradise West).
2. The domain of the email address for the domain is at carljohnson.com.au but that site appears to be email-only, no web pages. Last update, according to whois, was 18/9/2013. The carljohnson.com.au domain name is registered to RASKIN PTY LTD, which also has a postcode of 4226 (Clear Island Waters, QLD).
3. The aliciasflight.com website does not display any contact address or anything suggesting it is a registered charity. Nothing on the site indicates place of residence.

Even if the entire thing is legit, there is a problem. There is no entity matching the bank account name given on the donations page, and if Carl and Amanda are indeed Alicia’s parents, they obviously already know enough about business law etc to do it right.

You have to look further down the donations page to see where it says “If you want a tax deductible receipt…donate through our charity Janelle’s Miracle”. ASIC search turns up a matching registered charity based in Victoria, although web-savvy people will tell you 75% or more already did the donation at the previous steps and never went that far.

Sorry Alicia, if you are truly ill, but this all looks very fishy, as in surrounded by canals, and I am sure the ATO is going to get involved at some point. There is probably already an ATO man in a sentry box on your street.

Wouldn’t all those “Johnsons” be Alicia’s family? Is she not “Alicia Johnson”? Are you expecting the cancer patient to be running the fundraiser? Sheesh!

Masquara8:22 pm 17 Feb 14

Mr Evil said :

Masquara said :

Sgt Bungers can you please look up your childhood friend’s family and see whether they can dispel these concerns? It is indeed looking unusual. Or, worse, not unusual.

Maybe Sgt Bungers is in on the ‘scam’?????

Anyway, maybe the parents should mortgage their property to pay for the German treatment…..

There’s a facebook page and it doesn’t look scammy in the least. As fundraisers go, if people are prepared to donate and it’s genuine – albeit misguided – I don’t see how this all warrants nastiness. Of course people will grasp at straws, and maybe there might even be a remission coincident with German scam treatment. Let’s hope so. But calling Alicia’s supporters scammers is really low. No wonder Sgt Bungers hasn’t posted again recently – this is all too hurtful and nasty. I just can’t see how Riotact’s “right of reply” should be accommodating vile posts in this context. There’s a girl dying here, folks! Let it be on your conscience whether you spared a thought for the poor thing, or made a mockery of her.

Pitchka9:04 am 17 Feb 14

Pork Hunt said :

Nylex_Clock said :

Interestingly, a website called “aliciasfight.org” was registered a year before “Alicia” decided to beg for money to pay for this unspecified “treatment” at an unnamed German Oncology centre:

Domain Name:ALICIASFIGHT.ORG
Domain ID: D165114332-LROR
Creation Date: 2012-03-26T19:38:34Z
Updated Date: 2013-03-10T12:31:12Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2014-03-26T19:38:34Z
Sponsoring Registrar:Domain.com, LLC (R1915-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 886
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID:DOT-4FMQYT980G1K
Registrant Name:john-eric hartman
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 1071 sixth ave suite 230
Registrant City:san diego
Registrant State/Province:ca
Registrant Postal Code:92101
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6198717592

Coincidence?

You refer to a .org whereas Alicia’s thing is .com.

Would have definetly donated had it of been org.asm.com

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