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Andrew Barr hopes for peace with the teachers

By johnboy 31 August 2011 26

Education Minister Andrew Barr has published a brief statement on his talks with the Australian Education Union and his hopes for peace with them.

The Government and the AEU will hold further discussions next week.

I remain hopeful of a resolution on the outstanding enterprise agreement matters in the not too distant future.

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Jethro 8:19 am 02 Sep 11

2604 said :

Jethro said :

There is a reason teaching has one of the highest turn over rates of any profession – almost half leave within the first 3 years.

I can think of at least three reasons:
– Most principals couldn’t care less about discipline and won’t back their staff who try to stand up to kids, meaning that the staff get no respect at all from kids or parents.
– Political correctness is in, common sense is out.
– A dynamic, dedicated, intelligent teacher with five years’ teaching experience gets paid no more than a dull, half-arsed teacher with five years’ teaching experience.

Maybe we should try to fix some of these issues first before we start writing blank cheques? I’m sure that most teachers would willingly live with the current pay offer of 3.5% if they were actually permitted to suspend a naughty kid every once in a while.

The two most common complaints of teachers leaving the profession are workload and behaviour management. My original post was obviously in response to someone’s earlier post that teachers have a light workload.

Nowhere have I mentioned pay. I don’t think teachers’ pay is the big issue, although it is tied up somewhat to workload.

And I agree with you on the fact that all teachers get paid the same even if they don’t perform the same. I’m all for performance based pay, although it would need to be carefully thought through and not simply based on NAPLAN results or something similar.

I’m wth Grunge Hippy… the Teacher’s Union doesn’t represent my opinion.

LSWCHP 10:48 pm 01 Sep 11

grunge_hippy said :

this might go some of the way to explaining it.

http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac5/ROW%20Europe/G-AFGN.html

Bwahahahahahahah….hehehe….chortle….sputter…

I just shot half a glass of a very nice Rutherglen muscat out my nostrils and all over the screen…..

First division folks. Premium stuff.

God I love this website. 🙂

grunge_hippy 9:13 pm 01 Sep 11

this might go some of the way to explaining it.

http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac5/ROW%20Europe/G-AFGN.html

LSWCHP 8:48 pm 01 Sep 11

creative_canberran said :

Wasn’t standing next to a Lockheed G-AFGN at Canberra Airport when he said this I hope.

OK. I admit it, I’m an uneducated dimwit. Someone please put me out of my misery and give me the John Dory on the Lockheed…

2604 8:30 pm 01 Sep 11

Jethro said :

There is a reason teaching has one of the highest turn over rates of any profession – almost half leave within the first 3 years.

I can think of at least three reasons:
– Most principals couldn’t care less about discipline and won’t back their staff who try to stand up to kids, meaning that the staff get no respect at all from kids or parents.
– Political correctness is in, common sense is out.
– A dynamic, dedicated, intelligent teacher with five years’ teaching experience gets paid no more than a dull, half-arsed teacher with five years’ teaching experience.

Maybe we should try to fix some of these issues first before we start writing blank cheques? I’m sure that most teachers would willingly live with the current pay offer of 3.5% if they were actually permitted to suspend a naughty kid every once in a while.

2604 8:17 pm 01 Sep 11

LOL @ Jim Jones and Gerry for saying “if you think teachers have it too good, why don’t you go and do it as well?” I presume that the next time someone complains about how the GDE is costing too much you’ll ask them why they aren’t a paving contractor.

A more pertinent question would be: if NSW salaries are so great, why don’t aggrieved ACT teachers simply join the NSW education department and start teaching in NSW? There’s nothing stopping them.

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