Are you sick of being consulted yet?

johnboy 7 May 2009 22

Our brave, beloved, and most of all Chiefly Leader has unleashed a tsunami of consultation with which to bludgeon the whingers into submission.

Topics for consultation this month include:

    — BelconnenTown Centre Improvements
    — Proposed southern cemetery
    — Draft ACT Kangaroo Management Plan
    — Lyons shopping centre upgrades
    — Tuggeranong Town Park Stage
    — Waramanga shopping centre upgrades
    — Stromlo Forest Park Master Plan and Feasibility Study

That’ll learn you.


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damien haas damien haas 5:44 pm 08 May 09

sexynotsmart – the meeting went very well. the main item discussed was a submission for the airport master plan, to consider lightrail and integrated public transport for travellers and workers in the brindabella business park, and possible extension to queanbeyan.

what did you do with your time now macleods daughters has finished?

regards

damien haas

chair – act light rail

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 9:57 am 08 May 09

There has always been an incredible amount of consultation on. The thing now is that CMD have reinstated a community engagement unit that was allowed to fall over when under DHCS (Katy’s portfolio I believe).

The new people are doing a good job at lifting the profile of what is going on, and have actively engaged with Community Councils and other groups about what we need from the government to improve things.

On the Nicholls Shops parking issue Felix, to Tony Gill’s credit he realised that they hadn’t done enough, and put the plans on hold while they remedied the situation. The 55 people at the meeting at Nicholls last week were heard loud and clear, and some workable (but not cheap) holistic solutions were put forward for resolving the problems. And he has agree to leverage GCC’s communications tools to make sure future communiques get a better airing on this and other transport issues.

Credit also to Alistair Coe for his active pursuit of the issue, as opposed to Mary Porter’s “I brought all this up 4 years ago” (and then apparently forgot to do anything more about it…

Clown Killer Clown Killer 9:19 am 08 May 09

Two words: Focus Groups. There’s no point in rushing into a poll of whether or not to have poll if we don’t know whether or not we’re asking the right question in the first place. We’ll need to advertise of course, seeking expressions of interest and have a strategy to make sure that we capture the full range of ethnic, minority and interest groups … but once that’s sorted it should be pretty straight forward.

xyro xyro 8:49 am 08 May 09

Pommy bastard said :

Are you sick of being consulted yet?

Should RiotAct run a poll on it?

Or should we just post “poll” or “No Pol” in this thread to decide if we should have a poll or not?

What do you think about the idea of a poll about a poll about the consultations?

Maybe a poll to see if there should be a poll about a poll about the consultations……then surely the majority will rule?

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 8:14 am 08 May 09

Are you sick of being consulted yet?

Should RiotAct run a poll on it?

Or should we just post “poll” or “No Pol” in this thread to decide if we should have a poll or not?

What do you think about the idea of a poll about a poll about the consultations?

sexynotsmart sexynotsmart 11:59 pm 07 May 09

Oops, forgot to add… speaking of consultations, it’s been more than a minute since the ACT Light Rail Meeting. And there’s no post about how tramtastic the benefits to Canberra could be.

Does someone have a phone number? We should check they’re OK.

sexynotsmart sexynotsmart 11:52 pm 07 May 09

Thanks for the “heads up” on the Tuggeranong Town Park Stage one. I think I might drop in next week and consult away.

If the plan is to pour concrete where the consultation cardtable is being set up, I’m dead against it. But if it’s replacing the crushed granite memorial space near the what-were-rose-gardens, then please be my guest and “stage away”.

Aeek Aeek 11:01 pm 07 May 09

or like Weston West, being consulted by the ACTgov and the NCA who had different agendas

canberra bureaucrat canberra bureaucrat 10:55 pm 07 May 09

Death by consultation.

Or is it, like sand in your eye, blindness from an absurd amount of meaningless consultation.

Aeek Aeek 10:51 pm 07 May 09

Long ago, I was surveyed for my TV watching habits when I didn’t own a TV, wasn’t a question.
There was the ACTION survey that insisted on knowing my closest stop. Why would I ever use it, when it was a 3 minute walk to the Civic interchange? This was before transfer tickets.

TP 3000 TP 3000 10:44 pm 07 May 09

You missed the Bushfire Management Program thing.

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 10:03 pm 07 May 09

Can’t say I’ve ever been consulted about anything the govt wants to do. Actually that’s not true. I recall many years ago receiving a flyer in my letterbox about proposed high speed internet for the Gungahlin area. AFAIK it never happened.

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 10:00 pm 07 May 09

According to The Chronicle the govt consulted just 80 people regarding proposed car park changes to Nicholls shops.

Primal Primal 9:48 pm 07 May 09

SheepGroper said :

According to WIN news it was a Lions consultation, not Lyons.

Makes sense. I always seek Voltron’s advice before submitting a development application.

SheepGroper SheepGroper 9:38 pm 07 May 09

According to WIN news it was a Lions consultation, not Lyons.

monomania monomania 7:55 pm 07 May 09

Few people will have a interest in more than one or any of these consultations. So if you don’t or don’t think they will do much good, forget about them and consider that they are one more type of economic stimulus. After the handouts and the throwing of money at school infrainfrastructure regardless of need, I have decided to no longer worry about how government wastes money.

Yossarian Yossarian 6:10 pm 07 May 09

Don’t forget F&C Day.

Dante Dante 5:00 pm 07 May 09

What about consultation on the big issues?

This is a fantastic start if you’re directly affected by any of these, but what about the issues affecting us all that we aren’t ever asked about, except for at election time?

Primal Primal 4:26 pm 07 May 09

Got my flyer in the mailbox yesterday about the upgrade of Waramanga shops.

Going by the language in it, you’d think they were wanting to turn it into a world-class tourist attraction rather than freshening up a nice little cluster of shops.

chewy14 chewy14 4:26 pm 07 May 09

Jim Jones said :

We could merge “Belconnen Town Centre Improvements” with “Proposed southern cemetery” and have the best of all possible worlds.

Throw in a gas powered kangaroo crematorium on you’re on to something.

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