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Athllon Drive Point-to-Point ‘Safety’ Cameras?

By M - 21 June 2013 81

So, driving past them every night and seeing their rapid progress towards functionality, I’m still baffled as to how the Athllon Drive point-to-point cameras are going to work. Unlike their counterparts on Hindmarsh Drive, this point-to-point zone is riddled with obstructions that will surely render them useless right? Things such as 2 roundabouts, single lane stretches, and heavy buss traffic (which, lets face it, reduce traveling speeds to little more than 60km/h). Surely someone must be doing something pretty spectacular to be able to be booked through the zone.

I ask you Rioters, does anyone know how this will be calculated and what are the complex equations used to determine the average wait time at multiple roundabouts? If someone can answer this you’ll be putting my mind at ease if only for a moment….

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Athllon Drive Point-to-Point ‘Safety’ Cameras?
c_c™ 9:57 pm 21 Jun 13

Not sure how many people are actually going to get pinged. Drive that road very often and a crazy number of drivers go 60 in the 80 zone. Any chance these cameras could ping them for traffic obstruction and blindness?

Very Busy 8:39 pm 21 Jun 13

Orr bugga. Now i’m gonna haf to do 120 between Beazley and Hindmarsh to make up time!!!!!

Very Busy 8:25 pm 21 Jun 13

Reprobate said :

And although you can get pinged for excess speed past either camera (like a standard fixed camera)

That’s news to me!!!!!

Pork Hunt 7:38 pm 21 Jun 13

magiccar9 said :

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

On the Hindmarsh stretch, LOVE turning off at Tamar Street! No going 57km/h up Red Hill eastbound!
New cars generally have an average speed indicator on their dash displays. Wonder if perfectly going 80 between the cameras on Athllon would induce an infringement (surely someone can navigate a roundabout at 80…) or they may assume excess speeds between the roundabouts.

Can quite easily do 80 through the roundabouts with no one around. If I ever got a ticket on this stretch – which is entirely likely – I’d be more than I inclined to challenge it. I want some solid proof as to how its calculated before I accept the ticket.

What part of “average speed” between point A and point B are you confused about?

p1 7:38 pm 21 Jun 13

I’m thinking an FOI request to find out the spread of speeds at different times of day ight show some interesting stats.

Does anyone know if these feed in real time to the police so they can chase stolen/unreg/etc cars?

magiccar9 7:23 pm 21 Jun 13

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

On the Hindmarsh stretch, LOVE turning off at Tamar Street! No going 57km/h up Red Hill eastbound!
New cars generally have an average speed indicator on their dash displays. Wonder if perfectly going 80 between the cameras on Athllon would induce an infringement (surely someone can navigate a roundabout at 80…) or they may assume excess speeds between the roundabouts.

Can quite easily do 80 through the roundabouts with no one around. If I ever got a ticket on this stretch – which is entirely likely – I’d be more than I inclined to challenge it. I want some solid proof as to how its calculated before I accept the ticket.

gooterz 6:57 pm 21 Jun 13

Also lovely how the money grubbing north are once again using the south to fund things northside.

Rail to gunners. More fines for Tuggeranong/Woden.

gooterz 6:55 pm 21 Jun 13

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

On the Hindmarsh stretch, LOVE turning off at Tamar Street! No going 57km/h up Red Hill eastbound!
New cars generally have an average speed indicator on their dash displays. Wonder if perfectly going 80 between the cameras on Athllon would induce an infringement (surely someone can navigate a roundabout at 80…) or they may assume excess speeds between the roundabouts.

That would be illegal and I would love to see heads roll if that is the case.

When someone gets a point to point fine does it show the times? All someone has to do is to get a fine and post the times from the images. From this we can work out the distance between the points.

Would love to hear clarification from actgov / tams if the whole road is classes at 80km/h or they’ll illegally book you for getting close to 80km/h.

Either way its an actgov screwup. Checkmate

nsn 6:17 pm 21 Jun 13

Reprobate said :

you can get pinged for excess speed past either camera (like a standard fixed camera)

I don’t think that’s right. I think these are only average speed cameras – they are not used to enforce “point in time” speed limits. I mean I think that legally they are not permitted to be used for that purpose, I’m not saying they technically can’t do it. But I can’t find a basis for this so I could well be wrong. Does anyone know for sure?

(I’m not encouraging people to speed up as they go past the cameras then slow down to achieve a compliant average speed!)

La_Tour_Maubourg 5:43 pm 21 Jun 13

On the Hindmarsh stretch, LOVE turning off at Tamar Street! No going 57km/h up Red Hill eastbound!
New cars generally have an average speed indicator on their dash displays. Wonder if perfectly going 80 between the cameras on Athllon would induce an infringement (surely someone can navigate a roundabout at 80…) or they may assume excess speeds between the roundabouts.

Reprobate 4:53 pm 21 Jun 13

Yep, with this set up you would have to be borderline retarded rather than just plain dumb to get booked. Two roundabouts and three major street exits between the points, as well as two bus stops on the Tuggers bound run.

Doesn’t worry me because the turnoff to/from my home is on one of those 3 exit points, so either on my way to Woden or back I will only go past one of the cams = no point-to-point measure so I can go as hard as I like. And although you can get pinged for excess speed past either camera (like a standard fixed camera), a modicum of observation and intelligence should see most people right.

The other issue is that during morning peak hour Athllon Drive is always at a standstill or a crawl in the single lane between Wanniassa shops and Sulwood Drive – if anyone gets caught via P2P on the Woden bound run between 8 and 9am they need a medal, not a ticket. If ACT GovCo are reading this, please duplicate that stretch to make our commute easier and increase your chance of raising revenue!

tim_c 4:17 pm 21 Jun 13

That’s in Tuggeranong right? Since when did Tuggeranong drivers slow down for roundabouts?!

Or (cynically) maybe they just work on a percentage basis noting that 15% of drivers are speeding, they’ll just issue tickets to 15% of the cars that pass the camera. They know it’s virtually impossible to contest such a fine because as well all know the “camera never errs and never lies”… 😉

smee 3:57 pm 21 Jun 13

I’ve been wondering the same, but then realised they are probably there more for ANPR for rego violations, to build up the vehicle tracking database and get Canberrans used to them to make it easier for further installations.

muscledude_oz 3:46 pm 21 Jun 13

I don;t know about any of that but I do know they’ve already been turned on. This morning at 5AM on my drive to Tuggers Pool I looked up at the cameras at the end and the infra-red light was on. The signs were put up overnight and are covered meaning the loot will start rolling in any day now.

Pitchka 3:36 pm 21 Jun 13

I drive that road quite often, no less than that 120-130km/h, slow down to approx 95km/h when navigating through the roundabouts.

Reckon id get done for sure.

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