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Canberra’s very own holocaust denier

By johnboy 14 December 2006 59

The Australian reports that a Canberran, Richard Krege, has gone to Tehran to re-affirm the crazies there of their belief that the mass exterminations conducted by the Nazi’s didn’t actually happen.


[Richard Krege]

Richard is an electrical engineer for Airservices Australia. According to The Australian he has been using his work email address to comment on these matters.

Richard Krege, who is on annual leave from the Canberra-based agency, said that only 5000 people died at Treblinka, from disease, and used his own model of the concentration camp to illustrate his claims.

Most historians believe that at least 800,000 prisoners were murdered in the camp, which was in Poland during World War II.

Mr Krege based his argument on a soil survey he undertook at Treblinka in October 1999, claiming to have found no evidence of mass graves.

The bizarre and disturbing (in my opinion) judicialinc.biz has some favourable coverage of the visit.

Canberrans never cease to amaze.

Thanks to Caz for the tip, she also observes that Richard appears to have been a Toastmaster back in 2001. (ah, wait, he’s still listed as their treasurer for 2005-6.)

UPDATED: Today’s Canberra Times (16-DEC-06) has an excellent Pryor cartoon on the subject with an uncanny likeness to Mr. Krege despite the CT not touching the story at all as far as we know.

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Benji1966 12:07 pm 18 Jun 09

Well, that was interesting. I did intend that to be my last post, but I feel it’s appropriate to respond:
1. That’s the first time I’ve atually been asked about when the next terrorist attack is. Isn’t that strange? The answer is: I don’t know. My mind just sort of came back to c1996 which was the time I went to Los Angeles when I was caught up in the worlds of Daphne Zuniga and Yasmine Bleeth. Which means my mind is now back in synch with the general flow of things. Ahhhh, to be a young man again!
2. Usually people go grasping for descriptions of psychiatric illness to avoid a much larger and disturbing problem- that is, that we are not really safe, and our institutions are riddled with error! It’s scarey!
3. I am of Germanic descent. But, one of the Rheinish-type ones, and maybe going back a long way. There’s a photo of me under the ‘Who is the Antichrist?’ section at sqlspace in the last few pages of posts:
http://www.sqlspace.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=11173&start=10
4. I don’t defend the killing of Jews in any way.
5. I actually remember Richard Krege as being a fairly nice and sincere guy. Like him, I have ties to the Lutheran regions of Europe. I made plans to move there but was sidetracked by the bad ‘l’ word which was probably to do with people’s lies to the ‘l’ world about me.
6. My main argument in what I’ve said at sqlspace is that there were glitches in a chain of events involving me. I was either going to end up married and living in London, or making films in Los Angeles in the Nineties. Because of various reasons which I state at sqlspace, I ended up still connected to the industry but not working in it. I did, however, have a brief flirt with being involved as my design concepts for the posters for the film Jumper were used for promoting the film. The film grossed around 222 million dollars at the box office, so you can guess how upsetting this is to someone who can barely make it through the fortnight on his pension.

So, that’s it. That really feels like I’m at the end of it. The lessons are to be learnt from what I’ve delivered to you online. So, I hope that the thing that comes out of this is that young filmmakers can understand what can go wrong in your career. Best of luck to those in the industry and long live freedon of speech!
Ben Dickson

Thanks for that. Seems to me like people of German extraction wanting to lessen their guilt.

Of course, ‘The Jews’ haven’t always behaved perfectly, certainly the Israeli govt has done some objectionable things. But to be fair, there are plenty of worse govts, and govts by their very nature do things that some people don’t like.

BerraBoy68 9:13 pm 17 Jun 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the actual point of denying the holocaust occurred?

Simple VY, the point is to:

A) make the jewish people out to be liars and by implication the nation of Isreal evil;
B) use A above, to turn the rest of the ‘thinking’ world against the jewish people for their racist and revisionist tendencies (note the irony here?); and
C) use the misinformation they are spreading to make the Nazi’s look more like grossly misunderstood teddy bears (e.g. stating the Nazi’s looked after the Jews during their internment in the Concentration Camps, rather than slaughtering them as they saw fit) than the rabid, out of control murdering bastards they they were (i.e. Nazi’s good – Jews bad).

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the actual point of denying the holocaust occurred?

BerraBoy68 7:43 pm 17 Jun 09

p1 said :

Vilification laws should be used against that crime, and if people manage to publicly deny the holocaust happened without breaking any other laws then they should remain free.

When I studied history at ANU, one of the very first things we learned was that memorising specific names and dates is secondary to the ability to analyse and interpret historical events. In this regard I have no issue with anybody that wants to question historical events based on evidence. What I have a major issue with is people clearly trying to re-write history in an effort to ‘cleanse’ their own ancestors* of despicable acts and vilifying another race of people to do so (i.e. their claims that “the jews invented the holocaust as they are a race of liars, cheaters, murderers, etc..”) but then, ironically, isn’t that why the Nazi’s built the gas chambers came about in the first place.

*Would I be right in assuming Krege and Tobin both have German ancestors?

p1 6:35 pm 17 Jun 09

Racial vilification should be a crime not questioning history.

I agree. Vilification laws should be used against that crime, and if people manage to publicly deny the holocaust happened without breaking any other laws then they should remain free. I suspect that this will not happen, but rather the government would have to try a lot harder to uncover their actions which do break laws.

Making denial of a historic incident a crime like this is a bit similar to making bikie gang members associating a crime. An easily identifiable trait that selects a group of people, most of whom are probably guilty of the crime which actually concerns you.

BerraBoy68 6:18 pm 17 Jun 09

I was reading through this thread with considerable alarm at work today. I couldn’t join in earlier as I’ve deliberately nobbled myself from taking part on RA while at work.

While this Krege character is appears to be person of the worst kind, a short tour of the link provided adequately demonstrates the racist conspiratorial mentality of these morons. For example, in 5 minutes you can see that this filth really believes that the Colombine massacre was a jewish conspiracy to kill American’s and the Port Arthur Massacre was really carried out by Moshad in an effort to take guns off Australians.

A friendly warning though, if you do look at the Colombine page, don’t go to the bottom as there is a rather gory pic of the dead killers taken after killing themselves.

As for Krege, if you’re reading this I invite you to meet me for coffee (I’ll even shout)to discuss your ‘theories’. I can be contacted at berraboy68@gmail.com. For info, I’m neither jewish or german, although I do have German friends of WW2 vintage who view your theories as being quite abhorrent, and this despite their losing their fathers on the Western Front. I really, really would like to discuss this with you.

Granny 4:08 pm 17 Jun 09

Ben, I would also encourage you to go and speak to someone. I hope you can find someone caring and sensible that you can trust and respect. Best of luck.

peterh 3:25 pm 17 Jun 09

p1 said :

I have no doubt that the holocaust occurred and its extent. I recognise that to deny that it occurred or its extent is highly offensive to most people especially those whose families or national, ethnic and religious groups were directly affected. However, I can’t see why holocaust denial should be a crime. One is able to question the extent of claimed atrocities that have occurred more recently in other places in Europe Africa and Asia. And we have no trouble trading with countries that are prepared to rewrite their own histories.

To make it even simpler, it is legal to be a member of the “Flat Earth Society”.

I think that the issue really has to do with people who actively push denialist discussions often encourage many of the sentiments and policies of the late Mr A Hitler, thus stepping from simple disbelief in generally accepted truth toward hate and vilification.

+1.

monomania 3:14 pm 17 Jun 09

Clarification: Racial vilification should be a crime not questioning history. I appreciate that Holocaust denial is usually linked to groups that also vilify Jews.

p1 3:09 pm 17 Jun 09

I have no doubt that the holocaust occurred and its extent. I recognise that to deny that it occurred or its extent is highly offensive to most people especially those whose families or national, ethnic and religious groups were directly affected. However, I can’t see why holocaust denial should be a crime. One is able to question the extent of claimed atrocities that have occurred more recently in other places in Europe Africa and Asia. And we have no trouble trading with countries that are prepared to rewrite their own histories.

To make it even simpler, it is legal to be a member of the “Flat Earth Society”.

I think that the issue really has to do with people who actively push denialist discussions often encourage many of the sentiments and policies of the late Mr A Hitler, thus stepping from simple disbelief in generally accepted truth toward hate and vilification.

monomania 3:00 pm 17 Jun 09

I have no doubt that the holocaust occurred and its extent. I recognise that to deny that it occurred or its extent is highly offensive to most people especially those whose families or national, ethnic and religious groups were directly affected. However, I can’t see why holocaust denial should be a crime. One is able to question the extent of claimed atrocities that have occurred more recently in other places in Europe Africa and Asia. And we have no trouble trading with countries that are prepared to rewrite their own histories.

Skidbladnir 1:31 pm 17 Jun 09

RE: Rambling Ben.
I fear I may have originally drawn Ben here some months ago by mentioning his SQLSpace presence in another thread ages ago.
Personal first impression was that he’s crazier than Chester (no small feat in itself), but as he was relevant to (and provided an example of the potential fo damage being discussed in) the conversation, I figured I could get away with it, as I was linking to a thread he was very unlikley to see.
Damn you, karmic blowback.

Probably would not be described as neurotypical. (Everyone likes to think of themselves as special)
Delusions of reference. (Belief that many various phenomenon relate to them personally)
Apophenia with hindsight\memory bias. (Sees patterns in things most of the population would see as unconnected)

Formal thinking derailment. (Tangential associations between ideas leading to stark changes in continuity of narrative)
Occasional lapses into rambling logorrhoea. (Word salad)

Those first two are innocuous in and of themselves, the third borders on a DSM criteria (but at the same time could just be a nonrational method of calculation), but the final two are DSM criteria for psychotic mental illness.
I’d say he’s fairly disturbed, and the people he runs into everyday have no idea what he’s like on the interwebs.
PS: See a doctor, Ben.

Deadmandrinking 1:16 pm 17 Jun 09

So Benji, when will the next terror attack take place?

jimbocool 1:13 pm 17 Jun 09

I suspect Benji1966 is himself part of the zionist conspiracy – he presents well as a denier, and is certainly affectingly fruity in his language and claims, but he is betrayed by having a hebrew name…

S4anta 12:53 pm 17 Jun 09

I am not sure if giving these scumbags publicity or acknowledgement either good or bad is they way to go.

Ironically, I have to comment on this useless thread to say that.

Thumper 12:45 pm 17 Jun 09

It would be worthy for FOTW, except it’s not a rant. It’s just a, well, I’m not sure…

jessieduck 12:18 pm 17 Jun 09

Ben, turn off your computer and go take your meds.

p1 12:04 pm 17 Jun 09

???????

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