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Carburetor Service?

By EvanJames 11 July 2012 31

I’d like to utilise the Hive Mind about where to get my poor old Suzuki’s carburetor fixed. It’s gulping petrol and propping a bit, and after having its electricals all re-done, suspicion has shifted to the carby and fuel level being the problem (something about a float).

Carburetors being rare things these days, it appears that normal mechanics no longer fix them. Any recommendations?

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EvanJames 11:43 pm 13 Jul 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

What are the new Vitaras like? They seem to me to be the most viable small 4WD (other than the Jimny/Sierra) that can actually be used off road.

They’re OK, but they seem big and hulking, they’re very plush inside, and they’ve lost some ground clearance especially with all the crap they hang off cars nowadays. A friend took me in a ride in his… he had my kind of Vitara and overturned it into the creek off Baw Baw access road, and the insurance payout got him the plusher one. He admitted the old one was more useful offroad but liked the luxury and press-button 4WD (old Vitara you have to get out and lock the hubs). The suspension is more comfortable and less axle-hoppy, too.

I wish they’d kept a work-style Vitara, between the Jimny and the Grand Vitara. There’s absolutely nothing in the market that’s like it. Yet they sold in vast numbers, showing that there was demand.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 2:52 pm 13 Jul 12

EvanJames said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

This is true. I only added the idea because the OP seems attached to the vehicle and there isn’t really a similar model on the market now. I guess he could always try to find another one the same.

I’ve looked after the car since it was disgorged from some large ship, it’s been serviced every 5000 kms, never revved hard or smashed around the roads, and I want to reap the rewards! The wheel bearings going was from me taking corners and curves with enthusiasm, and I’m just hoping the steering stuff doesn’t bite me on that also.

It had its suspension re-done a few years back (turned out it didn’t really need it) and the suspension people were shocked to discover that the brakes were still the originals. Any bush work has been done at slow speeds… it’s been a carefully driven car. I suspect other Vitaras haven’t been so nursed, and yet you still see a few of them about.

I don’t like the current crop of plush wagons and luxo barges adorned with expensive plastic bits, I’m very hopeful that this car will keep going, maybe make it to its 400,000 km timing belt.

What are the new Vitaras like? They seem to me to be the most viable small 4WD (other than the Jimny/Sierra) that can actually be used off road.

EvanJames 2:44 pm 13 Jul 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

This is true. I only added the idea because the OP seems attached to the vehicle and there isn’t really a similar model on the market now. I guess he could always try to find another one the same.

I’ve looked after the car since it was disgorged from some large ship, it’s been serviced every 5000 kms, never revved hard or smashed around the roads, and I want to reap the rewards! The wheel bearings going was from me taking corners and curves with enthusiasm, and I’m just hoping the steering stuff doesn’t bite me on that also.

It had its suspension re-done a few years back (turned out it didn’t really need it) and the suspension people were shocked to discover that the brakes were still the originals. Any bush work has been done at slow speeds… it’s been a carefully driven car. I suspect other Vitaras haven’t been so nursed, and yet you still see a few of them about.

I don’t like the current crop of plush wagons and luxo barges adorned with expensive plastic bits, I’m very hopeful that this car will keep going, maybe make it to its 400,000 km timing belt.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 1:13 pm 13 Jul 12

Felix the Cat said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Probably not what you want, but as an idea from left field have you thought about replacing the whole engine. For a thousand or so bucks you may be able to get a second hand engine that will bolt straight in, with fuel injection and even a warranty period.

It would likely mean another 100,000km or more without worrying about the engine.

Plus another thousand to fit it, re-do fuel lines and wiring for EFI. If the OP was going to all the trouble and expense of doing that he would be better off to upgrade to a later model vehicle that has fuel injection already.

This is true. I only added the idea because the OP seems attached to the vehicle and there isn’t really a similar model on the market now. I guess he could always try to find another one the same.

Felix the Cat 12:18 pm 13 Jul 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Probably not what you want, but as an idea from left field have you thought about replacing the whole engine. For a thousand or so bucks you may be able to get a second hand engine that will bolt straight in, with fuel injection and even a warranty period.

It would likely mean another 100,000km or more without worrying about the engine.

Plus another thousand to fit it, re-do fuel lines and wiring for EFI. If the OP was going to all the trouble and expense of doing that he would be better off to upgrade to a later model vehicle that has fuel injection already.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 10:29 am 13 Jul 12

Probably not what you want, but as an idea from left field have you thought about replacing the whole engine. For a thousand or so bucks you may be able to get a second hand engine that will bolt straight in, with fuel injection and even a warranty period.

It would likely mean another 100,000km or more without worrying about the engine.

EvanJames 10:17 am 13 Jul 12

el said :

And whatever you do, don't buy an equally old carb from a wrecking yard. It'll probably have just as many problems, and the wreckers won't care.

Yeah. Looking at what this shop on eBay was selling, it was all the bits I’ve been replacing! So evidently Vitaras are consistent with what fails (like those door handles).

Well, all this info has really helped, and given me some better options than what the garage wanted, which was for me to leave the car there for days while they “outsourced” the carby. Given the quality of the service they did, I sure didn’t want to do that.

Fingers crossed, an adjustment is all it needs… done by someone who knows what they’re doing, and now I know who those people are! Thanks folks, hugely helpful (and anyone googling carby services in Canberra will find this useful too I bet).

el 7:04 am 13 Jul 12

CoffinRX2 said :

Evan it may not be a rebuild kit needed, playing about with the air/fuel jets/bleeds etc may well be the issue.

take it to someone

+1.

A proper tune from someone that knows carbs could see you sorted for < $100, particularly if it just needs the float level adjusted. If it needs a full rebuild they'll be able to do it in a couple of hours and you'll be up for a couple of hundred most likely.

And whatever you do, don't buy an equally old carb from a wrecking yard. It'll probably have just as many problems, and the wreckers won't care.

EvanJames 11:07 pm 12 Jul 12

Googling around, it appears that Suzuki did some mucking around between the series’, and various models. Vitaras are geared very low (high?) for instance, with the smallish engine and heavy drivetrain to haul around (and having 1st as a tractorish gear is helpful when doing bush stuff), they rev a bit higher too, so probably some differences from the Swift.

OK, first stop is to see if it’s fixable the old-fashioned way, I’m convinced. and if that doesn’t work, go find a new one.

Sandman 10:15 pm 12 Jul 12

EvanJames said :

Umm, how does one go about sourcing a new carby and can anyone put it on or should one get these carburettor people to do it?

Putting them on is something that’s easy enough to do with a few basic tools and some common sense. It’s simply a remove/refit deal. Everything you take off the old one make sure you put it back on the new one.

As for sourcing, try eBay, wreckers or there’s a mob in Heidelberg Vic called Suziparts. I’ve got a Swift with a G13A siting out at the farm (99 cents on eBay and runs like a dream) but not sure if the carbie would be the same as the G16.

CoffinRX2 9:52 pm 12 Jul 12

Evan it may not be a rebuild kit needed, playing about with the air/fuel jets/bleeds etc may well be the issue.

take it to someone

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