Cheap roads fix

Jere13 said :

Has anyone seen how bady worn the new seal in Phillip is? This road is less than 6 months old and it looks shocking (and is still full of loose stones).

Sure have. Hence my reason for not using the road. If the government can’t provide a proper service I’ll annoy residents by rat racing through their suburbs.

Also, what’s with the state of Yamba Dr before the hospital north bound. The road surface has worn away to a slippery slick surface in the grooves. Makes for an eye opening drive whenever it’s wet!

Has anyone seen how bady worn the new seal in Phillip is? This road is less than 6 months old and it looks shocking (and is still full of loose stones).

Could not believe it-just realised Bandjalong Cr between Caswell Dr and Banambila St has been re-surfaced….with hotmix!

tim_c said :

Jere13 said :

In summary she admitted that chipseal has drawbacks of causing stone chips and being rougher and noisier to drive on that hotmix but was selected due to it’s being more “economical” and allowing more roads to be (and I think she used the term loosely) “fixed.

She also noted that chipseal is used extensively around the world and that in Canberra hotmix is reserved for intersections, round abouts and “very highly trafficed roads”. Given that Tony Gill stated in parliament that 90% of the ACT roads are chipseal and the fact that adeleaide ave, the ACT side of the Federal HWY and the parkway are all coarse chip I’m not sure what “very highly trafficed means”.

Very highly trafficed by MLAs perhaps?

Chipseal is used extensively around the world, eh? Is that the developed countries or the undeveloped ones? And in most countries (ie. extensively around the world), water out of the tap is undrinkable – should we really be aspiring to follow these countries? (Yes, I know: Mayor Rattenbury is already following the undeveloped nations as he rolls out his third-world Police force (aka. speed humps) throughout the Nation’s capital).

Couldn’t agree more. I’m sure that dirt roads are cheaper still, and public buildings could be made without carpet or walls, that would also be cheaper. The “we’d have to raise the road budget by 6-8” argument is flawed as well. It doesn’t take into account community amenity, the cost of windscreen repairs, paintwork damage or the cheese grater effect coarse seal has on tyres.

They will never change though unless it’s raised as an election issue in the ACT. Why would they change their minds otherwise? If they spend more on roads the opposition will just say they are poor economic managers. Wish I could see a way of fixing this.

Jere13 said :

In summary she admitted that chipseal has drawbacks of causing stone chips and being rougher and noisier to drive on that hotmix but was selected due to it’s being more “economical” and allowing more roads to be (and I think she used the term loosely) “fixed.

She also noted that chipseal is used extensively around the world and that in Canberra hotmix is reserved for intersections, round abouts and “very highly trafficed roads”. Given that Tony Gill stated in parliament that 90% of the ACT roads are chipseal and the fact that adeleaide ave, the ACT side of the Federal HWY and the parkway are all coarse chip I’m not sure what “very highly trafficed means”.

Very highly trafficed by MLAs perhaps?

Chipseal is used extensively around the world, eh? Is that the developed countries or the undeveloped ones? And in most countries (ie. extensively around the world), water out of the tap is undrinkable – should we really be aspiring to follow these countries? (Yes, I know: Mayor Rattenbury is already following the undeveloped nations as he rolls out his third-world Police force (aka. speed humps) throughout the Nation’s capital).

Liam46 said :

Jere13 said :

Liam46 said :

Well this post is about the state of our roads , not the cars or their features. For your information my car is stock with factory features, there are no fancy modifications . I am just a commuter who is having to negotiate awful gravel roads every day, and we are awaiting the explosion in numbers of speed cushions, speed pillows etc around the place , please note they are not called speed bumps , that would be giving away their true nature!

Keep the pressure on them Liam. I have written to Katy Gallagher and Tams on numerous occasions

after this rubbish has been laid down around our area.

Thanks for that, what did they say ?

In summary she admitted that chipseal has drawbacks of causing stone chips and being rougher and noisier to drive on that hotmix but was selected due to it’s being more “economical” and allowing more roads to be (and I think she used the term loosely) “fixed.

She also noted that chipseal is used extensively around the world and that in Canberra hotmix is reserved for intersections, round abouts and “very highly trafficed roads”. Given that Tony Gill stated in parliament that 90% of the ACT roads are chipseal and the fact that adeleaide ave, the ACT side of the Federal HWY and the parkway are all coarse chip I’m not sure what “very highly trafficed means”.

tim_c said :

isn’t it great to see Mr Rattenbury implementing a third-world police force in our Nation’s Capital?!

NO, we already have one, or at least a Colonial one that owes its allegiance elsewhere.

Jere13 said :

Liam46 said :

Well this post is about the state of our roads , not the cars or their features. For your information my car is stock with factory features, there are no fancy modifications . I am just a commuter who is having to negotiate awful gravel roads every day, and we are awaiting the explosion in numbers of speed cushions, speed pillows etc around the place , please note they are not called speed bumps , that would be giving away their true nature!

Keep the pressure on them Liam. I have written to Katy Gallagher and Tams on numerous occasions

after this rubbish has been laid down around our area.

Thanks for that, what did they say ?

slashdot said :

They needed that money for the skywhale

Hmmm….$300 000, hot mix at $25/m^2, streets about 8m wide…1.5km of road…problem solved.

Liam46 said :

…speed cushions, speed pillows etc around the place , please note they are not called speed bumps , that would be giving away their true nature!

No, they’re more correctly called “Inverted potholes”, or in some other countries “Sleeping Policemen” (with the implication that the Policemen are sleeping on the job, so these great lumps are required to do their job for them) – isn’t it great to see Mr Rattenbury implementing a third-world police force in our Nation’s Capital?!