Chic Henry transitions from Liberal Stooge to Liberal

ACL said :

Jason71 clearly has no idea about how the Canberra Liberals work and how Gary Kent has damaged the brand. He was angry that he was not preselected and thinks that as the Party’s longest serving President that he is owed something by the Party.

The management committee determine when a member has crossed the line and if they should be reprimanded for it. Chic Henry has made one statement about party finances. Gary Kent made many. If Chic makes more statements without the party’s approval I am sure the Party will deal with it but the fact remains he made 1. Gary Kent made many.

That aside, Chic Henry will make a great contribution to the Liberal Party and will attract votes from different areas at the next election.

So Jason71 and others who think Chic has nothing to offer, stick to what you know. You have no involvement in the party.

And for the record, the party finances are just fine. But we won’t hear anything about any other party’s problems because they are running the ACT government.

But you are missing the point here entirely about how the electorate typically votes, how the hare-clark system works and how previous ACT liberal governments were elected. Thats why I think Chic Henry joining the Liberals actually doesn’t help the cause of a liberal government forming in the ACT. They needed a strong conservative independant or minor party. Just like Labor has needed the greens. Only once in 25 years have we had a majority government yet the Liberals seem to think they can do it, when labor struggles to do the same in a mostly labor voting city.

rommeldog56 said :

Does it really matter ????

How is Chic Henry any worse than any of the incompetent nob’s in the ACT Government anyway ????

At least he seems to have some experience in business that might help to encourage growth in the ACT economy.

The Libs have to gain power first.

IMHO, the “bribe” of the Light Rail to the expanding Gungahlin Labor voter base may well ensure the re election of the current Labor/Greens Government. Unfortunately.

LOL> “Experience in running business”

Jason71 clearly has no idea about how the Canberra Liberals work and how Gary Kent has damaged the brand. He was angry that he was not preselected and thinks that as the Party’s longest serving President that he is owed something by the Party.

The management committee determine when a member has crossed the line and if they should be reprimanded for it. Chic Henry has made one statement about party finances. Gary Kent made many. If Chic makes more statements without the party’s approval I am sure the Party will deal with it but the fact remains he made 1. Gary Kent made many.

That aside, Chic Henry will make a great contribution to the Liberal Party and will attract votes from different areas at the next election.

So Jason71 and others who think Chic has nothing to offer, stick to what you know. You have no involvement in the party.

And for the record, the party finances are just fine. But we won’t hear anything about any other party’s problems because they are running the ACT government.

Who cares?

Makes absolutely no difference. The libs in this town are lazy and incompetent. Seriously, if they couldn’t win the election after the 2003 fires then they’re never going win a thing.

And then they still managed to not win last year.

End of story.

But look at all the great ideas the liberals have and how well they manage their money! could you be serious voting for this mob? Sorry Chic. I might have voted for you but now that youre with the liberals you can foget it.

You know what will change? Nothing. Labor and the Greens will continue to hold onto government because the liberals don’t care less about canberra – they just care about the own little internal battles.

And on another point, wasn’t Garry Kent dumped from the liberal party because he spoke out against the party problems? Now chic speaks out against the party not being able to manage money…

I wonder if Chic Henry is going to be punished like ol’ Garry was? I suspect not. Looks like Chic is allowed to say what he likes about that mob.

Maybe Chic will be the next Garry Kent and the party faceless men will have to punish chic too! If you ask me he should run for the hills and let the liberals eat themselves alive.

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watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

although, he will probably bring a fair percentage of the d***head vote to the Liberal party in Ginninderra.

watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

I had similar thoughts – some people might vote for a candidate if they stand as an independent or for a minor party (even though there may be little doubt the candidate, if elected, would support the Liberals in the Assembly) but would not vote for the same candidate if they formally stand as a Liberal.

There’s also the interesting question of whether the Liberal Democrats might give it a run in 2016.

Its probably even more so that as a liberal, people will look for another Independant to vote for. It also hedges bets with preferences if he stays independant. As a liberal I doubt he gets them the 3 quotas they need. As an independant if he could snag a half quota himself preferences would probably elect him and the Liberals would have effectively a third member.

Anyway we still have almost 3 years to go and Zed may get himself unelected from the senate and want his old job back 🙂

If Chic Henry is a Liberal stooge for opposing Labor (to the point of supporting the Libs for government), why then are the Greens and other minor parties who oppose the Liberals (to the point of supporting Labor for government) not Labor stooges?

Or do stooges come in only one flavour in this place?

Who cares?

Makes absolutely no difference. The libs in this town are lazy and incompetent. Seriously, if they couldn’t win the election after the 2003 fires then they’re never going win a thing.

And then they still managed to not win last year.

End of story.

You make a compelling case, but I cling to the fond belief that this is not, quite, a one party state.

watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

I had similar thoughts – some people might vote for a candidate if they stand as an independent or for a minor party (even though there may be little doubt the candidate, if elected, would support the Liberals in the Assembly) but would not vote for the same candidate if they formally stand as a Liberal.

There’s also the interesting question of whether the Liberal Democrats might give it a run in 2016.

watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

although, he will probably bring a fair percentage of the d***head vote to the Liberal party in Ginninderra.