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Coe says Greens want to charge you for car mileage

By johnboy 2 October 2012 47

The Quinlan Review reveals that the ACT Greens want to create an additional charge for Canberrans to use their cars. ACT Shadow Urban Services Minister Alistair Coe said today this is an out of touch and hypocritical statement from a party who drive taxpayer-funded cars into taxpayer-funded car parks.

“It is ridiculous that the ACT Greens want to charge people again by the kilometre for car usage and it shows just how out of touch they are with the needs of Canberrans,” Mr Coe said.

“Canberrans, like all Australian motorists, already pay fuel excise, which is effectively a tax on driving.

“The Greens clearly aren’t thinking about the young families that live out in the suburbs that have to drop their kids at school, get to work, take their kids to sports and get their shopping. Nor are they thinking of the pensioners that are already struggling to pay their bills.

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gazket 10:43 pm 03 Oct 12

HenryBG said :

rhino said :

Postalgeek said :

rhino said :

Definitely true that taxing fuel is far more effective and practical for this purpose. And that’s why they introduced the fuel excise many years ago, I’m sure.

Raising the fuel excise wouldn’t really be a great idea though, because of the flow on effects. If I want to buy a potato, i have to pay more to cover the extra fuel costs to ship it to my store etc.

That can be controlled through rebates like the diesel fuel rebate scheme for primary producers and those who carry loads on their behalf.

Hmm true. But does that just basically cover the farmers themselves, not all of the shipping companies and woolworths themselves shipping the stuff around. And for things that arent grown on a farm but are still shipped around, there’d be no rebate. So it’d affect inflation generally. Plus taxing people and then paying them money back is fairly inefficient since there are administative costs for both of those things.

People shipping stuff around the place should *definitely* be paying the relevant taxes.

It’s bad enough that trucks cause 97% of wear and tearr on the roads subsidised by the rest of us road users without giving them further incentives to truck more stuff around the place.

Yet you don’t seem to mind sitting at your PC in your furnished abode driving your car and eating food which all would of been transported by………… Trucks.

Trucks are saving our roads from being congested. The space taken up of 2 thousand rickshaw’s is much larger than a B doubles foot print.

gazket 10:20 pm 03 Oct 12

sweet… I will just have to undo my speedo cable and drive my old V8 ute around for nothing.

milkman 8:07 pm 03 Oct 12

joingler said :

Have the greens responded to this?

I am 100% behind the idea of car users paying per km. They already do through the huge tax in petrol. So no change to the status quo is needed.

+1.

HenryBG 7:03 pm 03 Oct 12

rhino said :

Postalgeek said :

rhino said :

Definitely true that taxing fuel is far more effective and practical for this purpose. And that’s why they introduced the fuel excise many years ago, I’m sure.

Raising the fuel excise wouldn’t really be a great idea though, because of the flow on effects. If I want to buy a potato, i have to pay more to cover the extra fuel costs to ship it to my store etc.

That can be controlled through rebates like the diesel fuel rebate scheme for primary producers and those who carry loads on their behalf.

Hmm true. But does that just basically cover the farmers themselves, not all of the shipping companies and woolworths themselves shipping the stuff around. And for things that arent grown on a farm but are still shipped around, there’d be no rebate. So it’d affect inflation generally. Plus taxing people and then paying them money back is fairly inefficient since there are administative costs for both of those things.

People shipping stuff around the place should *definitely* be paying the relevant taxes.

It’s bad enough that trucks cause 97% of wear and tearr on the roads subsidised by the rest of us road users without giving them further incentives to truck more stuff around the place.

If the potatoes that have travelled 500km become more expensive than the potatoes that are produced locally, then that’s a positive incentive for maintaining better food security by encouraging diversity in land ownership and use and increased local production closer to population centres.

arescarti42 7:00 pm 03 Oct 12

Pork Hunt said :

willo said :

a car user is taxed on every litre of fuel they purchase so someone who does more ks uses more fuel and pays more tax per year as things are now
this policy is unnecessary

+1

I drive a fuel guzzling tank from the 1990s. If I run it on petrol, then the excise I pay amounts to approximately 4c per km. If I run it on LPG then I pay less than 1c per km in excise.

Considering the fixed cost of me owning it is around $3 a day in CTP and registration, the marginal cost to me of driving it as far as excise tax goes it pretty much zero.

Excise as a tax is fine, but it should be a lot higher.

joingler 5:47 pm 03 Oct 12

Have the greens responded to this?

I am 100% behind the idea of car users paying per km. They already do through the huge tax in petrol. So no change to the status quo is needed.

rhino 5:24 pm 03 Oct 12

Postalgeek said :

rhino said :

Definitely true that taxing fuel is far more effective and practical for this purpose. And that’s why they introduced the fuel excise many years ago, I’m sure.

Raising the fuel excise wouldn’t really be a great idea though, because of the flow on effects. If I want to buy a potato, i have to pay more to cover the extra fuel costs to ship it to my store etc.

That can be controlled through rebates like the diesel fuel rebate scheme for primary producers and those who carry loads on their behalf.

Hmm true. But does that just basically cover the farmers themselves, not all of the shipping companies and woolworths themselves shipping the stuff around. And for things that arent grown on a farm but are still shipped around, there’d be no rebate. So it’d affect inflation generally. Plus taxing people and then paying them money back is fairly inefficient since there are administative costs for both of those things.

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