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Do People Even Notice, Let Alone Help????

By MrMagoo - 18 June 2009 56

As many Rioters may know, I have a vision impairment and as such from time to time encounter obstacles etc in my day to day activities. Yesterday morning I dropped my youngest at his Day Care and proceeded to the Cohen St. Action Bus Station. I entered from the side off Josephson St and approached the two bus stops below the street level. Having never used this entry point I misjudged the distances of steps and with a bit of sun glare had a tumble up a gutter in front of about 15 – 20 high school age kids. Now I’m not one for sympathy or having people fuss over me, but not one of these kids asked if I was OK, I actually saw several turn away and laugh.

Now perhaps I’m old fashioned, but do people actually give a toss about other people these days when they are in obvious or even not so obvious need?

Have people stopped caring about the welfare of others and simply worry about themselves? Interested in peoples views on this.

What’s Your opinion?


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Do People Even Notice, Let Alone Help????
MrMagoo 12:11 pm 18 Jun 09

I think regardless of disability or circumstance or anything else, that we as society (there are of course exceptions) have moved away from some of the facets of our lives that made this country great. Helping your mate out is and or was one of them. Even if someone isn’t your mate, I was brought up that you offer a hand to people.

As I said I certainly wasn’t fishing for sympathy in this post, it just interests me that as a society it seems that people put themselves first before anyone else. I certainly wasn’t brought up that way.

peterh 12:02 pm 18 Jun 09

Ozi said :

Very sad they had that reaction, mate. Very poor form by them!

It’s a real shame, and you don’t deserve that sort of treatment at all. :/ However, there are still many people out there who would have given a stuff and actually gone to your aid, or at least expressed some form of compassion.

+1
I would have helped you, I do for all people who need it, be it in a car accident, needing directions, fallen over, etc etc.

RAGD 11:44 am 18 Jun 09

Ok well, then that’s pretty bad form from snotty teenagers.

MrMagoo 11:41 am 18 Jun 09

RAGD said :

MrMagoo, Is it noticeable that you are vision impared? Do you carry a walking cane?
I assume since you are capable of dropping your kid off at school and are capable of knowing street names, that you are capable of seeing somethings.

I am just asking, if to a teenager, you just look a normal middle aged guy taking a tumble? or is it obvious that you have a vision imparement?

If it’s the latter, the what the kids did is pretty bad. But if you just look like a normal healthy guy falling over, then a laugh is pretty much all you can expect from a bunch of teenagers.

Yes i do carry a cane, it’s ahorter cane known as an ID cane or can that idetifies me as having a VI. Needless to say that on this occasion it didn’t help much. I must say that previously is has proven to be a useful aide.

ebony57 11:40 am 18 Jun 09

I’m not sure how long you’ve been here, housebound, but it’s not the Canberra I grew up in. We would get a verbal smack from our Principal if the school heard of any of us being rude, ignorant, or generally unpleasant in public, especially if we had our uniforms on. Mind you, schools probably aren’t allowed to do that now, in case they damage the little petals’ fragile egos.

I do still give a toss about other people, and try to be courteous where I can. I still believe that a kindness given will eventually be returned, but I do think that there is less consideration given publicly, and unless these kids see someone being decent to another, how do they learn?

Yep, I’ve also been on the pointy end of a sharp tongue after offering assistance, but I put that down to the individual being a grump. In my polyanna world, I still think it’s nice to get a smile or a nod for a simple courtesy.

RAGD 11:35 am 18 Jun 09

MrMagoo, Is it noticeable that you are vision impared? Do you carry a walking cane?
I assume since you are capable of dropping your kid off at school and are capable of knowing street names, that you are capable of seeing somethings.

I am just asking, if to a teenager, you just look a normal middle aged guy taking a tumble? or is it obvious that you have a vision imparement?

If it’s the latter, the what the kids did is pretty bad. But if you just look like a normal healthy guy falling over, then a laugh is pretty much all you can expect from a bunch of teenagers.

dvaey 11:35 am 18 Jun 09

ant said :

.. or if they’re feeling helpful, they get out their mobiles and call teh police or someone.

Used to be people relied on others for help… as kids we were taught to run to another person for help if we got into trouble, or were chased by a “strange man”, now that sense of there being help all around seems to have vanished.

While not so much on-topic for this thread, I find myself in a very difficult position with kids like this. As an unmarried 30-something male, the risk of helping, or even the risk of being seen interacting with a random child whos not yours, are simply too great.

Maybe a big part of it too, for adults, is that as society has started helping out less, people expect it less, encouraging people to help themselves out. This leads us into a self-help way of thinking.

Growling Ferret 11:20 am 18 Jun 09

Magoo

They were teenagers and probably little private school tossers.

You should be grateful they didn’t take your wallet whilst you were down. It was in Belconnen after all….

Ozi 11:19 am 18 Jun 09

Very sad they had that reaction, mate. Very poor form by them!

It’s a real shame, and you don’t deserve that sort of treatment at all. :/ However, there are still many people out there who would have given a stuff and actually gone to your aid, or at least expressed some form of compassion.

caf 11:16 am 18 Jun 09

High school kids are jerks, but I reckon that’s always been the case.

housebound 11:04 am 18 Jun 09

Canberra’s been like this as long as I’ve been here.

motleychick 10:28 am 18 Jun 09

I’d have to agree that things have changed. I’m in my early 20’s but I was taught growing up to respect the elderly, and help someone if they are in need. Working in Weston where there are a lot of elderly people, I’ve seen a fair few tumbles, and it is so disappointing to see people just ignore it and keep walking. I know some people may not be comfortable approaching the person, but it doesn’t hurt to ask if they are ok. Young kids these days don’t seem to have much respect for others (I’m not grouping them all together, I know there are some who would help), but even being on packed buses when I used to catch them to school, people wouldn’t get up and offer their seat to someone who may have needed it more than they did. Times have definitely changed.

Hope your day panned out better than how it started MrMagoo.

ant 10:20 am 18 Jun 09

Things have definitely changed. We used to be a fairly civil society, now people hang back if someone’s in trouble, look away, or if they’re feeling helpful, they get out their mobiles and call teh police or someone.

Used to be people relied on others for help… as kids we were taught to run to another person for help if we got into trouble, or were chased by a “strange man”, now that sense of there being help all around seems to have vanished.

People have withdrawn into their homes like crabs into a shell, pulling the door shut behind.

jessieduck 10:15 am 18 Jun 09

MrMagoo, that’s an awful way to start your day. I think if you’d caught the teenagers in a smaller group or individually, most of them would have had a different reaction (I hope). I know that if I were there I would have checked to see you were OK.

weeziepops 10:12 am 18 Jun 09

I experienced similar frustrations when caring for my father before he passed away. People blatantly stared at him, making him feel self conscious about going out and, as for being considerate in letting me manoeuvre his wheelchair around – forget it! On the other side of things, I recently copped a mouthful of abuse when I helped an elderly woman get up from a tumble.

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