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Dont swallow Death, it will kill you.

By S4anta - 7 April 2008 36

The Canberra Times this morning is Surprisingly reporting that a party drug known as “Death” or “Dr Death”, or paramethoxyampethamine can kill you. PMA has been doing the rounds since the early 70’s, and lately has been reprised as the ‘New (stronger) Ecstacy. However like most drugs knocked up in backyard by some sweaty, semi-illiterate, itinerrant criminal it has more unknowns than an Alzemiers patient memory.

Currently, this drug is being offloaded at what used car salesmen would refer to as ‘ a bargain of lifetime’, and thats exactly what it is. For a bargain, you lose a lifetime, hence ACT Health, and the AMA flinging out a bunch of marketing pharaphenalia. There was a recent case of a poor soul, being presented at the Canberra Hospital suffering from PMA poisoning, and his body slowing shutting down over ten days, resulting a slight case of death.

May I suggest a Barcadi Breezer instead of this poison?

You have been warned.

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36 Responses to
Dont swallow Death, it will kill you.
VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 10:06 am 08 Apr 08

If you are stupid enough to take this stuff, then I don’t really have much sympathy for you.

boomacat 10:03 am 08 Apr 08

Smokey2 this type of crime is another incident of the prohibition on drugs – if they could get them for free from their GP as part of a treatment program they wouldn’t steal to fund their habit.

boomacat 10:01 am 08 Apr 08

The “what about the damage done to the community” argument is an interesting one.

The gist of it seems to be “the community shouldn’t have to bear the burden of providing medical services to those who fail to take reasonable care of their own wellbeing”.

At first blush it’s persuasive.

However, when you think about it, it’s pretty flawed. If we applied this principal judiciously, we would ban junk food and refuse medicare funded treatment to those who overindulge in it and those who don’t exercise regularly (obesity being the greatest threat to Australia’s health at present). Add to this list alcohol and smoking.

An alternative is to introduce a tax on stupidity (AD I think this was a Bill Hicks idea). My preference would be to simply to make an allowance for human frailty, as in we all do stupid things from time to time that’s just human nature.

smokey2 9:58 am 08 Apr 08

Anything that gets druggies off the streets andf into the morgue is not such a bad thing.

In the last week several work locations have been broken into. Is the price of drugs to expensive or is some really nice stuff getting onto the market?

Mælinar 9:15 am 08 Apr 08

I’m attracted to the body shutting itself down over a period of 10 days component to this story.

Morons who try their utmost to reverse their position in the gene pool are a source of constant amazement to me, as is the old saying never underestimate the ingenuity of a complete retard when designing a foolproof system.

To theorise, by what percentage would the crime rate in Canberra go down if somebody distributed a lethal pill to a bunch of idiots who will blindly take an unmarked pill and do not know the full consequences of taking that pill ?

Absent Diane 9:07 am 08 Apr 08

legalise. control. less problems.

What about the damage done to the community? I know I have asked another question and not really answered you. Imagine you or a loved one is sick and in need of urgent medical care and emergency services are too busy at (insert crap club of your choice) trying to revive somebody who chose to take a pill or take aother non-prescribed sustance? Can anybody claim ignorance anymore?

and how exactly is this different to alcohol?

Anyone who is anti-recreational drugs should really go grab a bill hicks dvd and get some common sense knocked into them. kay? Kay!! (note: being pro-recreational drugs does not mean that you have to use them).

Ari 8:25 am 08 Apr 08

DJ said :

Ari – “Unfortunately the anti-drug lobby has cried wolf over too many things and undermined the message for when something truly dangerous hits the streets.” An example? – please don’t say cannabis cause I think you’d be wrong.

Opiates are a good example. There are virtually no adverse effects for an addict who has been stabilised on medical-grade opiates. All of the problems stem from the illegality.

It’s just unfortunate that much of the western world let the US bully it into banning opiates … opening the door to the entrenched criminality we see today.

lemaChet 8:21 am 08 Apr 08

Test your pills before you eat them.
If they don’t turn the right colour with your test kit(available from places in fyshwick IIRC) don’t eat them.

It’s about the only way you can tell the difference. PS – there was PMA doin the rounds about 3 years ago.

The whole “just say no” line to drugs doesn’t work. Education, awareness and undertanding are much more important. Because, quite simply, the whole “drugs are bad, don’t take drugs” line doesn’t work. teenagers are going to do it any way, mid-twenties are going to do it anyway. It’s much better that, if they do choose to do not, as a community and as society, we provide them with information on how to make the correct choices, how to know if something is going wrong, and how to deal with it.

DJ 6:37 am 08 Apr 08

DMD – I suspect from reading previous postings that you could be serious.

What about the damage done to the community? I know I have asked another question and not really answered you. Imagine you or a loved one is sick and in need of urgent medical care and emergency services are too busy at (insert crap club of your choice) trying to revive somebody who chose to take a pill or take aother non-prescribed sustance? Can anybody claim ignorance anymore?

My answer is: The community doesn’t accept it and in my opinion that shouldn’t change.

Ari – “Unfortunately the anti-drug lobby has cried wolf over too many things and undermined the message for when something truly dangerous hits the streets.” An example? – please don’t say cannabis cause I think you’d be wrong.

Deadmandrinking 12:59 am 08 Apr 08

Completely agree Boomacat.

Why is what someone is doing to their own body illegal?

boomacat 10:25 pm 07 Apr 08

The inevitable danger involved in swallowing pills of unknown origin and random quality is one of the worst aspects of the prohibition approach to drugs such as ecstacy.

Not to mention the fact that violent organised criminals are gifted are fabulous income stream in the process (eg the Taliban, the Medellin cartel, people who traffic in human beings).

Surely a system of control and regulation is better?

VicePope 8:10 pm 07 Apr 08

It stands to reason that if one buys unmarked pills fom an unmarked bloke in an unmarked car, one may not be entitled to a great deal of confidence about what they contain. Those who remember Pan Pharmaceuticals would know that, even in a supposedly professional drug company, mistakes happen. Things get mixed up. Bits of substance A wind up in pill B because the machine wasn’t properly cleaned. Some pills contain all the active ingredient and some contain only bulking and colouring agents.

Does anyone think that the people who mix this stuff up in their garages out of whatever ingredients they can lay their hands on can do any better? So, while some illicit drugs may be nicer than others (and PMA is really not nice at all), one has no real way of knowing what one is getting in the first place. Then one mixes it with whatever other pills are around and half a dozen shots of spirits. The surprise is not that some people wind up comatose, dead or permanently affected – it is that many do not.

Ari 8:03 pm 07 Apr 08

boomacat said :

I would hope they aren’t following the typical “ooh well you should just not take any naughty drugs at all because they’re all dangerous”. This really helps no one.

Unfortunately the anti-drug lobby has cried wolf over too many things and undermined the message for when something truly dangerous hits the streets.

boomacat 7:58 pm 07 Apr 08

It is my understanding that this stuff is usually sold as ecstacy, and the punter doesn’t realise they’re taking PMA (until the staff at the emergency department tell them so).

If it is known that PMA is circulating in Canberra (being sold as ecstacy), does the marketing paraphernalia referred to describe the pills in question, so that consumers are armed with a bit of information with which to protect themselves?

I would hope they aren’t following the typical “ooh well you should just not take any naughty drugs at all because they’re all dangerous”. This really helps no one.

DISCLAIMER: I don’t take drugs and don’t even drink alcohol (have a terrible chocolate habit mind you).

DarkLadyWolfMother 7:32 pm 07 Apr 08

My experience has cynically led me to believe that naming something “Death” is more likely to get more people taking it. Perhaps this is some kind of Darwinism in action.

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