Flame Of The Week – RushHour

johnboy 13 December 2010 61

I’ve got a lot of time for the RushHour kids. Most of them are OK, and the value of their charity cruises is often over looked.

But when it comes to their public advocacy, well they’re right up there with small business owners.

And so in a recent discussion on the impounding of a purple Commodore we got this gem (stars mine):

IBO
(Newbie)
21:09, 12 Dec 10

All you faggot old c*** on here should stop bitching about this and every other little thing that happens in canberra and get a f***ing life! I support rushhour because when you use LOGICAL thinking its the right thing to do. They go out in the middle of nowhere and every person that attends knows the risk involved! Get the f*** over youselves and grow up, so what someone did a burnout at a formal, I can almost guarentee that every person here has sone something stupid in their life. God forbid any of you lonely people ever did anything wrong and it made the local news, I’d be straight on here to give you shit and abuse you because of it just so you know how it feels. I’m going to end my rant on a high note, F*** ALL OF YOU!

Thank you for reading this and i hope to abuse you more in the future, FAGGOTS

Really winning the audience over there IBO. You are the Flame Of The Week.

BTW RushHour kids, something to think about, every time you go out to the middle of nowhere and get busted by the cops, well one of your own probably tipped them off.


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Deref Deref 7:36 pm 08 Aug 12

Joe Canberran said :

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

I’m at a loss … Whats he talking about? food?? I thought Faggot was old fashon meat balls made from offal.

Actually….

fag·ot? ?/?fæg?t/
[fag-uht]

–noun
1. a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel, a fascine, a torch, etc.
2. a bundle; bunch.
3. a bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded, hammered, or rolled together at high temperature.
4. bouquet garni.
–verb (used with object)
5. to bind or make into a fagot.
6. to ornament with fagoting.

I winder if he’s the moron who called us small yellow marshmallow chickens?

Antagonist Antagonist 4:43 pm 08 Aug 12

I thought this thread died a natural death at post #43 nearly two years ago. It seems there really is life after death.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back VYBerlinaV8_is_back 4:31 pm 08 Aug 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Not sure when faggot became a derogatory word for homosexual,

Feb 21, 1974.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 3:58 pm 08 Aug 12

Not sure when faggot became a derogatory word for homosexual, but as I understand it, it’s used because they used to burn homosexuals in piles of faggots.

bundah bundah 3:20 pm 08 Aug 12

PBO said :

IBO,

I generally do not feel safe next to young ppl who think that they can “drive” and who show off, have you ever been first on the scene of a severe accident? Have you ever seen a person who has half of their body crushed (not upper or lower, but a crushed whole right side including the head) and is still clinging on to life staring you in the eye trying to say something to you?

Have you ever felt powerless to help someone, knowing that they will die no matter what you do to help them?

How do you think that i felt when i had to walk away from this knowing that I saw this guy race to overtake me minutes before?

I could only imagine how his family must have felt as this happened on a boxing day.

Or how about seeing the top of someone’s head ground flat because their head was out the window when the car flipped and spun on its roof? Guess not, otherwise it may change your attitude on racing in the streets.

Street racing and hooning does not prove anything other than the fact you are all dangerous wankers who make the roads unsafe for the rest of us.

Reminds me of the time i met a man who had driven one of ACTEW’s trucks and was involved in a head on collision on the old Lake George stretch of Federal Hwy in which three young adults were tragically killed as they were overtaking another vehicle.The thing that struck me was that it had been almost two years since the collision and he was an absolutely shattered man who was still receiving counselling.The horrific experience was something that had left an indelible impression in his mind akin to a life sentence and i wondered if he would ever fully recover.

Henry82 Henry82 2:26 pm 08 Aug 12

Not sure if the word “faggot” is being used as a derogatory term, or as an adjective to describe how old RA members are.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 2:26 pm 08 Aug 12

54-11 said :

As someone on the wrong side of 60, I feel somewhat sad reading these comments. I am not condoning bad behaviour on the road (as a motorbike rider, I am very aware of the poor road skills of too many drivers), but the heavily judgemental tone of so many posts is almost as much of a worry.

Yes, young drivers can be dangerous. But so can far too many older ones, many of whom are probably in the age bracket of most RA posters here. Wanker-driven SUVs with the driver on the phone are more danger to me that a kid having a bit of a go in a hotted up car.

When I were a lad, we did some pretty scary things, not just on bikes and in cars. But when considering the lack of sophisticated suspensions, brakes, tyres, frames/chassis, etc, and the complete lack of passive (let alone active) safety devices, then we were far more at risk. Hell, when I first rode a bike, we didn’t wear helmets at all.

Yet we survived, despite the risks. According to a recent report, “In 2011, Australia recorded the lowest number of road deaths since 1946, down to about a third of the deaths recorded at the peak in 1970”. I know this is never consolation to those who have lost family and friends, and also does not take into account serious injuries and other costs, but our roads have never been safer.

So, when I catch up with my boomer friends and we talk about old times, we have some stories to tell. I suspect far too many RA posters here will have few, if any, yarns that will curl the hair. Good? Perhaps.

Maybe some of you should sit down with your dads or grandads (or better yet, listen in when they are having a few beers with their mates), specially if they served in Vietnam, Korea or earlier.

So, I just think this whole thread is a bit sad. Sure, kids should and must behave on the road. But where is the fear-soaked adrenalin that we used to know when I were a lad?

Nothing wrong with adrenalin. Plenty of it around, skiing, rock climbing, MTBing, but that takes effort and skill, and generally only the participant is at risk. MTBing is very popular in Canberra, and a lot of riders take their skills to the edge and often over it. And helmets only assist in preventing major head injuries. Ask any doctor in a casualty ward what he/she thinks of MTBing.
But taking a one ton chunk of metal and flinging it around in public is bullshit. Fine for the driver surrounded by technology and metal intended to protect them. Not fine for everyone.

If its got to be done on the road, do it on a motorbike. Or rally driving. But too many ‘adrenaline’ participants are reluctant to really compromise their own sense of safety while compromising everyone elses.

Grail Grail 2:20 pm 08 Aug 12

I wonder if any RH members have the attention span to go looking for suitable land, get a price, and a quotation for building the facilities that they are interested in and insurance to cover the inevitable accidents?

The recurring theme from RH posters here seems to be that Mummy/Police/Government should be doing this stuff for them.

So RushhouR folks: get off your lazy arse, look at formalizing your club structure, do some research and figure out how much the facilities will cost to build for yourselves, and I will contribute $50 to your fundraiser.

I would also suggest a registered trademark for the club logo, so if anyone uses it that isn’t a member you can sue them for trademark infringement/copyright violation. You don’t want to be associated with the hooligans doing but outs at formats or racing in suburban streets.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 2:08 pm 08 Aug 12

Truthiness said :

yellowredme, I feel for your friend, it is terrible she has been so destroyed by automobiles. the deaths and injuries on our roads are an epidemic. if cars were invented today the very concept would likely be illegal. filling a tonne of metal with explosive liquid and propelling it at 100km/h is a fundamentally dangerous activity, whether it is drag racing or the morning commute. even if we eliminated all the drunks and hoons there would still be road fatalities.

no one is a safe driver, we are all monkeys in death traps. I for one think driverless mass transit is the solution, as long as we let individuals control heavy machinery en masse, there will be accidents.

And there within lies the truthiness. The only vehicle that could considered relatively safe is one at rest. Even in the low speed environments of driveways cars have a substantial kill record. As with using any dangerous tool like firearms or chainsaws, the same rule applies:
There are no safe operation, only responsible operation.

SnapperJack SnapperJack 2:04 pm 08 Aug 12

troll-sniffer said :

I’m at a loss … Whats he talking about? food?? I thought Faggot was old fashon meat balls made from offal.

World English Dictionary
faggot or esp ( US ) fagot 1 (?fæ??t)

— n
1. a bundle of sticks or twigs, esp when bound together and used as fuel
2. a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron
3. a ball of chopped meat, usually pork liver, bound with herbs and bread and eaten fried
4. a bundle of anything

— vb
5. to collect into a bundle or bundles
6. needlework to do faggoting on (a garment, piece of cloth, etc)

[C14: from Old French, perhaps from Greek phakelos bundle]

All is revealed! These street racers, whom we thought were just turds dressed up as wankers, are actually at the very forefront of energy research, it’s so obvious why we haven’t ‘twigged’. Using bundles of sticks to fuel their drag racing activities should be applauded, not lambasted.

Assuming I’m not missing the point of the faggot reference of course

How did the word “faggot” become a derogatory term for homosexuals? The word has nothing to do with sexuality, indeed it is an American term which only started being used in this country since 1985 when the song Money For Nothing by Dire Straits with its $2.5million animated music video. Specifically the second verse – deleted from the single version – which consists of the following lyrics:

“See the little faggot with the earring and the make-up
Yeah buddy that’s his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot he’s millionaire”

Before this song, the common put-down word for gays in Australia was “poofter” (from the Greek poustis meaning homosexual). If anybody knows how and why “faggot” or “fag” became a derogatory word for gays, many people would be interested to know.

54-11 54-11 2:02 pm 08 Aug 12

As someone on the wrong side of 60, I feel somewhat sad reading these comments. I am not condoning bad behaviour on the road (as a motorbike rider, I am very aware of the poor road skills of too many drivers), but the heavily judgemental tone of so many posts is almost as much of a worry.

Yes, young drivers can be dangerous. But so can far too many older ones, many of whom are probably in the age bracket of most RA posters here. Wanker-driven SUVs with the driver on the phone are more danger to me that a kid having a bit of a go in a hotted up car.

When I were a lad, we did some pretty scary things, not just on bikes and in cars. But when considering the lack of sophisticated suspensions, brakes, tyres, frames/chassis, etc, and the complete lack of passive (let alone active) safety devices, then we were far more at risk. Hell, when I first rode a bike, we didn’t wear helmets at all.

Yet we survived, despite the risks. According to a recent report, “In 2011, Australia recorded the lowest number of road deaths since 1946, down to about a third of the deaths recorded at the peak in 1970”. I know this is never consolation to those who have lost family and friends, and also does not take into account serious injuries and other costs, but our roads have never been safer.

So, when I catch up with my boomer friends and we talk about old times, we have some stories to tell. I suspect far too many RA posters here will have few, if any, yarns that will curl the hair. Good? Perhaps.

Maybe some of you should sit down with your dads or grandads (or better yet, listen in when they are having a few beers with their mates), specially if they served in Vietnam, Korea or earlier.

So, I just think this whole thread is a bit sad. Sure, kids should and must behave on the road. But where is the fear-soaked adrenalin that we used to know when I were a lad?

Truthiness Truthiness 12:18 pm 08 Aug 12

yellowredme, I feel for your friend, it is terrible she has been so destroyed by automobiles. the deaths and injuries on our roads are an epidemic. if cars were invented today the very concept would likely be illegal. filling a tonne of metal with explosive liquid and propelling it at 100km/h is a fundamentally dangerous activity, whether it is drag racing or the morning commute. even if we eliminated all the drunks and hoons there would still be road fatalities.

no one is a safe driver, we are all monkeys in death traps. I for one think driverless mass transit is the solution, as long as we let individuals control heavy machinery en masse, there will be accidents.

ToastFliesRED ToastFliesRED 11:53 am 08 Aug 12

Apoc said :

all the local gov needs to do is spend a few thousand dollars (which i am certain would be repayed by members of the group and enthusiasts in the community) and build a small ashphelt area suitable for this activity out near HQJOC between queenbeyan and bungendore, implement some tyre barriers, train up a few members of the group to adhere to safety guidelines.

nobody here is asking for a multi-million dollar dragway, they just want a bit of tarmac to waste some tyres,

Ah if only it was that simple, nevermind that the Government (which one?) setting aside some land and laying out some asphalt would be significantly more than “a couple of thousand dollars” if they did set aside such property for said specific purpose wouldnt they then have the public liability issue for any little thing that happened adversely at any time with the possible exception of events organised by community or private groups? If so can it please be on the opposite side of the border to where I live. 😉

Truthiness Truthiness 11:48 am 08 Aug 12

“the law” referred to as some holy sacrament or universal objectivity. zealots calling for the incarceration of any who would break that divine covenant, that perfect boundary between civilisation and barbarism.

laws are human and frail, they are subjective and shifting. laws start in one place and end in another, it is impossible for one to know them all, let alone follow them blindly.

saying something is “against the law” says nothing of its validity or value, those laws which are often far removed from common sense or intellect. once, racial equality was illegal. Once sexual equality was illegal. to this day, man’s oldest cure all is illegal.

can such laws, so fickle and feeble, truly be respected? is it any wonder they are disregarded and ignored?

beyond that broken code lies an enforcement system which is equally archaic and insane. Punishment does not encourage rehabilitation, violence and mistreatment will never “cure” the criminal. the threat of these inhuman tortures does not make injust laws seem sane.

until laws are written by and for “we the people”, until they reflect reality, they shall remain ignored and broken. The ancient delusions of aristocratic gentry will not deter the folly of whimsical cyberpunk youth.

Solidarity Solidarity 11:17 am 08 Aug 12

Not sure what any of that has to do with burnouts, but OK.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 10:32 am 08 Aug 12

PBO said :

IBO,

I generally do not feel safe next to young ppl who think that they can “drive” and who show off, have you ever been first on the scene of a severe accident? Have you ever seen a person who has half of their body crushed (not upper or lower, but a crushed whole right side including the head) and is still clinging on to life staring you in the eye trying to say something to you?

Have you ever felt powerless to help someone, knowing that they will die no matter what you do to help them?

How do you think that i felt when i had to walk away from this knowing that I saw this guy race to overtake me minutes before?

I could only imagine how his family must have felt as this happened on a boxing day.

Or how about seeing the top of someone’s head ground flat because their head was out the window when the car flipped and spun on its roof? Guess not, otherwise it may change your attitude on racing in the streets.

Street racing and hooning does not prove anything other than the fact you are all dangerous wankers who make the roads unsafe for the rest of us.

Very good post. I don’t really know what to say that will not sound trite. Thank you for posting that here.

PBO PBO 9:48 am 08 Aug 12

IBO,

I generally do not feel safe next to young ppl who think that they can “drive” and who show off, have you ever been first on the scene of a severe accident? Have you ever seen a person who has half of their body crushed (not upper or lower, but a crushed whole right side including the head) and is still clinging on to life staring you in the eye trying to say something to you?

Have you ever felt powerless to help someone, knowing that they will die no matter what you do to help them?

How do you think that i felt when i had to walk away from this knowing that I saw this guy race to overtake me minutes before? I could only imagine how his family must have felt as this happened on a boxing day.

Or how about seeing the top of someone’s head ground flat because their head was out the window when the car flipped and spun on its roof? Guess not, otherwise it may change your attitude on racing in the streets.

Street racing and hooning does not prove anything other than the fact you are all dangerous wankers who make the roads unsafe for the rest of us.

yellowredme yellowredme 8:39 am 08 Aug 12

IBO

I wish you could meet my friend I mentioned in the other thread regarding horrific injuries suffered in an accident on a country road ‘in the middle of nowhere’ – because another driver mistakenly assumed he had mastery of his vehicle. Unfortunately, being so far from town it took an ambulance a long time to arrive to just do basic life support, then time for paramedics to arrive to properly puncture her airway so she could breathe, let alone the time it took to cut her out of the car, being airlifted to hospital etc, so things just got worse from there.

Get a life? My friend has no life after such an accident. At 17 years old her brain was slammed so hard against the inside of her skull (which broke the dash and windscreen – she was wearing a seatbelt, no airbags in cars at that time) that mentally she will be a teenager forever, which makes her quite vulnerable, as for the bones broken in her body, clinical staff soon stopped counting.

My friend remembers life before the accident and compares it to now, the multitude of friends vapourised, no more guys desparate to just chat with her because she was kind and beautiful, she wants to ‘have a life’ and feel normal, in her words she says she looks and acts like a spaz and it has ruined her life, not many of her peers take time for her now so social opportunities are few and realistically she will never marry and injuries mean she can’t have children, quite depressing for her. People often treat her like she is stupid when we are out, they talk to me like she can’t hear them, so there is great emotional pain for her too and I get an attitude with people who treat my friend like an idiot.

‘F*** ALL OF YOU!? She would love to repeat that to many people. People who dont obey speed limits, who do things on the road that are illegal, it frightens her because she knows first hand what can happen in a split second (her car was only clipped by another, but the very unfortunate results are described above) and unfortunately it refreshes in her mind everything she has been through. She would have liked to have been able to speak to say ‘F*** You” to the people who caused her pain in the year she was in hospital, but for quite a while she couldn’t speak to tell them they were causing her pain – 3 months in a coma, rehab, (pain is pain whether from the accident or from medical staff who would like not to cause pain in their work, unfortunately necessary care does hurt a body already screaming in pain and rehab hurts too despite pain relief).

So IBO go ahead abuse away, but remember the road is a public place, even in the middle of nowhere accidents happen and lives are ruined (young or ‘faggot old’), I wouldn’t wish such an accident it on you, but breaking the law increases your chances of having an accident. I would love you to spend a day with my friend and I, she may just change what you believe is safe and is your right on the road.

I’m all for places for people to drive as they wish, not on a public road, so you make it happen – organise, fundraise, lobby for facilities to do such, dont whinge about your rights or state what you will do regardless on the road, my friend has had many, many of her rights taken away by someone who thought they could do the same …

LSWCHP LSWCHP 8:53 pm 16 Dec 10

If you Google for IBO, the first hit indicates that it stands for the International Baccalaureate Organisation. Surely not…

Miss.B Miss.B 9:07 am 16 Dec 10

Constructive suggesstions go a long way!

Thanks, Triffid…

-Miss.B

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