Getting your preferences sorted

johnboy 31 August 2013 31

It’s important to vote below the line in the Senate.

It’s the difference between being a citizen and a feudal vassal.

But it’s not that easy with all the filthy front parties being put up just to mess with you by various players.

Fortunately there’s a tool for putting your preferences in order deciding who to put dead last rather than right at the bottom, and it then generates a handy pdf file for taking into the ballot box.

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thebrownstreak69 thebrownstreak69 1:11 pm 02 Sep 13

Stevian said :

milkman said :

I’m tempted to go for a drive in the early and take down some of the political signage, just so I don’t need to buy stakes for my tomato plants…

Theft and vandalism. Your mother must be so proud

:). Oh hang on, was this meant to be a serious post…?

Stevian Stevian 12:52 pm 02 Sep 13

harvyk1 said :

You know what, I’m going to vote above the line. Do you know why? Because I care enough to vote and certainly care enough about who runs this country, but I’m not delusional enough to actually believe my single vote is actually going to change anything and as such I want the task to be over and done with as quickly as possible.

Furthermore since we’re considered a safe seat it probably doesn’t matter who I vote for, people who have the job already are likely to stay, and the person who gets to be PM will ultimately be decided by the various marginal seats around the country, who coincidentally will get the lions share of federal funding.

and lazy as well. You’re an inspiration to us all

Stevian Stevian 12:50 pm 02 Sep 13

milkman said :

I’m tempted to go for a drive in the early and take down some of the political signage, just so I don’t need to buy stakes for my tomato plants…

Theft and vandalism. Your mother must be so proud

harvyk1 harvyk1 10:57 am 02 Sep 13

It should also be noted that your hours of carefully deciding who to vote for, reading policies and then carefully numbering 1 – (insert number of candidates here) making sure to do it right lest your vote will no longer count will be completely undone by a single donkey voter who wants to be in and out of there in 10 seconds flat but only because they don’t want to pay the fine for not showing up.

harvyk1 harvyk1 10:53 am 02 Sep 13

You know what, I’m going to vote above the line. Do you know why? Because I care enough to vote and certainly care enough about who runs this country, but I’m not delusional enough to actually believe my single vote is actually going to change anything and as such I want the task to be over and done with as quickly as possible.

Furthermore since we’re considered a safe seat it probably doesn’t matter who I vote for, people who have the job already are likely to stay, and the person who gets to be PM will ultimately be decided by the various marginal seats around the country, who coincidentally will get the lions share of federal funding.

MrBigEars MrBigEars 8:35 am 02 Sep 13

milkman said :

I’m tempted to go for a drive in the early and take down some of the political signage, just so I don’t need to buy stakes for my tomato plants…

All of a sudden, I’m interested in this election. Now I need to think what I can convert the signs into (light-weight shade house perhaps?).

milkman milkman 11:02 pm 01 Sep 13

I’m tempted to go for a drive in the early and take down some of the political signage, just so I don’t need to buy stakes for my tomato plants…

Ltdttm Ltdttm 10:34 pm 01 Sep 13

ScienceRules said :

Deborah said :

Oh honey, I’m sorry that you’ve taken offence at me calling you chickie – lucky I didn’t call you a c##t.

Anti-woman values? Did you hear that thump? It was me falling off my chair with laughter.

Wow. And you’re an actual candidate for the Senate are you? These comments suggest that you are unstuitable to run for student president at a Primary School, let alone anywhere grown ups gather.

Not sure what the big deal is about calling someone a coot is, I and remember when Peter Costello referred to Wayne Swan as a drop kick, and had to withdraw it because he didn’t know his rhyming slang.

C##t could stand for more than you dirty mind thinks it does

housebound housebound 6:49 pm 01 Sep 13

Innovation said :

There is no way that ACT voting behaviour would change sufficiently such that Labor will lose the current seat or win an extra seat. If the Liberal Senate seat was lost it would most likely go to a Green. Yes, that Green might then have some sway in the Senate but not in deciding who governs. No matter how much some people here hate the Greens, having a marginal Senate seat in the ACT has got to generate some benefit, now or in future elections, and possibly even protect ACT residents slightly from what’s likely to be coming.

A few people having been wondering about this. What would happen if the Greens displaced the Liberals in the ACT Senate AND the Libs win the election?
1. It might give the Greens the balance of power in the Senate (noting that this line of argument has been used in more than one seat by the Greens).
2. The Libs get a wake-up call (and probably never get back in since the Libs won’t be as popular next election)).
3. It means the ACT has no representation in Federal Government.
4. It could be interpreted by the ALP they don’t need to spend money in the ACT since we’ll always vote ALP or Greens (who support ALP in Government anyway).
5. It could be interpreted by the Libs to mean there is no point in spending anything in the ACT ever again, unless it is part of a national program (like BER, Gonski, GST distributions etc).
6. The ALP decide that if the seat can go to the Greens, then it could go ALP, and start paying attention to us.
7. The Libs think it might be worth one last try, and try to spend their way back into our hearts (but see #2).

There’s probably more options, but these are the favourite.

Masquara Masquara 5:41 pm 01 Sep 13

Innovation said :

No matter how much some people here hate the Greens ….

It would be interesting to know to what extent candidates right outside one’s own electorate influence voter behaviour in that electorate. Take Sarah Hanson Young – a very divisive character – would she influence an ACT vote for the Greens, being so high profile, even though she has nothing to do with us? The Greens leader is of course a different matter.

Innovation Innovation 4:15 pm 01 Sep 13

Thanks JB for posting this link and the Cartoon link the other day.

I’ve always found it hard to understand why anyone would vote above the line, even when there are a large number of candidates. In the ACT, I find it even harder to understand why anyone, even dyed in the wool Labor or Liberal voters, would put their respective parties at the top of their Senate preferences.

There is no way that ACT voting behaviour would change sufficiently such that Labor will lose the current seat or win an extra seat. If the Liberal Senate seat was lost it would most likely go to a Green. Yes, that Green might then have some sway in the Senate but not in deciding who governs. No matter how much some people here hate the Greens, having a marginal Senate seat in the ACT has got to generate some benefit, now or in future elections, and possibly even protect ACT residents slightly from what’s likely to be coming.

There’s even some discussion on the Liberals getting control in the Senate I’m sure that all but the most hardened Liberal supporters in the ACT would not want the Liberals to have control of the Senate again; especially under Abbott.

And informal voters and non voters need to have their head read. If these people thought about it instead of being lazy or thinking they were making a “clever” protest, these guys could actually change the outcome for the ACT Senate and make a real protest.

PS – excellent cartoon the other day. Stupidly, until I read that, I hadn’t thought of the added funding benefits.

Deref Deref 1:10 pm 01 Sep 13

Masquara said :

Deref said :

Masquara said :

Deref said :

Good app – thanks.

Masquara said :

Sex Party goes last.

Interesting choice from someone who appears to support human rights and feminism.

The Sex Party is actually about commerce.

In the sense that it supports small business? Yes, as do most, if not all, of the other parties. But it’s primarily about human rights.

You’ve fallen for the spin. Sex Party has historically always been about the commercial aims of sex shop owners, never about the sex workers. It may surprise Deborah Avery to know that I am actually friends with several former sex workers. They told me at the time that they kicked the Sex Party head out of the Workers in Sex Employment union because she was dishonestly (they thought) attempting to represent both the workers and her and her partner’s $4 million sex empire. Oh, and none of them has ever called another woman a “c**t”. I’ve asked them.

I’d imagine that the commercial aims of sex shop owners are identical to the commercial aims of restaurant owners, photocopy shop owners and all the other small businesses out there. I fail to see the problem and I’d be glad if you could clarify it.

As to the rest, I have no evidence for or against so I can’t comment on its accuracy; I note, though, that several of their candidates in the past (and now?) are or have been sex workers, something that would be very odd if your story were true. I also note that they’ve received little or no financial support from the sex industry – something else that just doesn’t gel with your story.

Regardless, their platform is about equality of fundamental human rights, not just as they relate to matters of sex and gender politics; it remains the only party whose platform I can support 100%.

Masquara Masquara 10:57 am 01 Sep 13

Deref said :

Masquara said :

Deref said :

Good app – thanks.

Masquara said :

Sex Party goes last.

Interesting choice from someone who appears to support human rights and feminism.

The Sex Party is actually about commerce.

In the sense that it supports small business? Yes, as do most, if not all, of the other parties. But it’s primarily about human rights.

You’ve fallen for the spin. Sex Party has historically always been about the commercial aims of sex shop owners, never about the sex workers. It may surprise Deborah Avery to know that I am actually friends with several former sex workers. They told me at the time that they kicked the Sex Party head out of the Workers in Sex Employment union because she was dishonestly (they thought) attempting to represent both the workers and her and her partner’s $4 million sex empire. Oh, and none of them has ever called another woman a “c**t”. I’ve asked them.

ScienceRules ScienceRules 8:52 am 01 Sep 13

Deborah said :

Oh honey, I’m sorry that you’ve taken offence at me calling you chickie – lucky I didn’t call you a c##t.

Anti-woman values? Did you hear that thump? It was me falling off my chair with laughter.

Wow. And you’re an actual candidate for the Senate are you? These comments suggest that you are unstuitable to run for student president at a Primary School, let alone anywhere grown ups gather.

Masquara Masquara 8:32 am 01 Sep 13

poetix said :

Deborah said :

Oh honey, I’m sorry that you’ve taken offence at me calling you chickie – lucky I didn’t call you a c##t.

Anti-woman values? Did you hear that thump? It was me falling off my chair with laughter.

I thought I had detected a certain lack of finesse in this candidate, but this is quite remarkable.

She rather puts Tony Abbott in the shade.

Deref Deref 8:27 am 01 Sep 13

Masquara said :

Deref said :

Good app – thanks.

Masquara said :

Sex Party goes last.

Interesting choice from someone who appears to support human rights and feminism.

The Sex Party is actually about commerce.

In the sense that it supports small business? Yes, as do most, if not all, of the other parties. But it’s primarily about human rights.

BimboGeek BimboGeek 1:38 am 01 Sep 13

Deborah you probably just fail to realize that people outside your industry and circle are so uptight that they don’t get that some women talk to everyone the way they would address their dearest friends. I call everyone darling and have no physical boundaries.

I imagine you’re self-aware enough to realize not everyone loves you but yeah sometimes it’s hard for a liberated and open woman to realize how “unladylike” and hence “vulgar” she seems.

In this arena of course this isn’t a double standard as men, too, are expected to be gender neutral, super polite and never use swears. But for why? The Senate exists to review laws and put them to the test. We need people to shake up the system and keep the bastards honest more than we need polished politicians. You can’t call bullshit if you don’t know how to say it.

DrKoresh DrKoresh 1:38 am 01 Sep 13

BimboGeek said :

Go masquara. I was going to put Greens first but Deborah Avery called you a chickie and I’m tempted to give her a few bonus points for her attitude. 🙂

Win 😀

Ello Vera Ello Vera 1:05 am 01 Sep 13

moneypenny2612 said :

Cluey Voter is another useful tool for sorting out ‘below the line’ voting preferences for the Senate.

http://www.clueyvoter.com/

Okay if you need it but what always gets me about how to vote guides us that they always put the bad guys in the order that the bad guys want. For example, if I am a rabid, leftie green voter, I will preference Zed after his running mate. I know it won’t come to anything but why would I prefer person 1 of the enemy against person 2?

DrKoresh DrKoresh 11:44 pm 31 Aug 13

Roundhead89 said :

The Libs have simplified the voting process by preferencing The Greens last. So all you gotta do is put a 1 in the Liberal box above the line and get out of there.

Exactly, a simple process for simple people.

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