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Hope to not lose my licence!

By Emma29 20 September 2011 89

I have a provisional driver’s licence, and I am fairly certain I have been caught speeding going 80-83 km/h in a 60 zone by a speed van. I saw the van and slowed down, but it was night time (11pm on a Wednesday night) and I did not spot him until I was well in his view. I could easily see the guy sitting in the back of the van with his camera.

I have had my provisional licence for nearly 2 and a half years, and am due to get my full driver’s licence next June. I have never been caught speeding, or causing any traffic offence in my entire time on the roads and therefore have not accumulated any demerits.

As far as I know, a P plater has up to 4 demerit points, before they lose their licence for 3 months. It is crucial that I do not lose my licence as I work a half hours drive from where I live.

My questions are:

1. How far over the speed limit will cause me to lose my licence? (I haev been told it is 20km’s by some people to lose 4 demerits, and 30km’s by others)

2. Is it likely to win a dispute against the fine, my excuse being, I was desperate to make it to the bathroom with stomach pains. I do not speed, and always drive safely and by the road rules.

3. If I was to run off now and complete my P off course (which will double my demerits) will it be effective for a fine I received before completing the course?

4. What kind of fine are you looking at for 20km’s over?

If anyone has answers for me I  will be stoked, I am freaking out about this and its on top of my mind at the moment!

Thanks ! 🙂

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00davist 7:54 pm 22 Sep 11

vet111 said :

While we’re on the topic of hatchbacks, I’d just like to send out a warning to anyone travelling the Monaro from Rose Cottage to the city each morning around 7.30. If you see a black piece of crap with a blonde bint in it who thinks she is a rallycar driver, probably best to stay away – I saw her almost take out a cyclist as well as a number of other drivers this morning. Speeding like a mad thing, weaving in and out of traffic.

Normally I don’t worry about that sort of stuff, but she was actually scary – driving significantly above the limit in heavy traffic, she can’t drive to save her life (or anyone else’s) and didn’t have any consideration for those around her.

Number plate starts with YFX. Won’t give you the last three digits/letters because I’m not 100% sure I got them right. Not sure on the car – looked like a focus or similar?

Love, if you want to kill yourself go right ahead. In fact, I’ll be your own personal cheer squad. But before you smear your selfish and arrogant body parts all over the road, at least have the decency to leave the rest of us the fcuk alone.

/End rant
Wow, that feels better! Long-time reader and poster, now under a different name – hello everyone, it’s good to be back 🙂

Yeah, I’ve seen this one on the way up from dropping my partner in coder some mornings, usually heads down to fyshwick or Canberra av, i take the monaro right up, so I’m not sure which one.

Love, If your reading this, I’m the Honda Accord that draws parallel with the car in the next lane, then sits there showering you with the wiper spray every time i get the chance to block your path before you fly past.

Also, please know I do it with the music up loud, and a massive grin on my face as you sit there getting so so so wonderfully irate.

See you next time!

Erg0 4:26 pm 22 Sep 11

thatsnotme said :

Erg0 said :

…and with the original target departing, we see the denizens of the thread begin to turn on each other…

I’m imagining that said in a Sir David Attenborough voice, it seems to fit.

Correct treatment, I actually put a “/DavidAttenborough” tag at the end but apparently anything in pointy brackets gets scrubbed by WordPress(?).

maniac 4:06 pm 22 Sep 11

buzz819 said :

Disinformation said :

buzz819 said :

Good work, taking up space with a useless post.

I still have 12 points on my licence. Does that mean I still have 12 points that I need to accrue to lose my licence, or does it mean that I have already lost my licence?

So, in order to know this for certain, you’ve been into the databases of the relevant licensing control authority and can count the points that you’ve got against your database entry?

Read how demerit points work, you tool.
http://www.rego.act.gov.au/infringements/infringedemerit.htm

Got any comeback to that?

Nope. Didn’t think so.

Ohh look, another irrelevant post, with an irrelevant link, you must have done your homework to come up with that, or did you have a dozen monkeys working around the clock?

You do realise that EVERY person who drives in Australia and I do mean EVERY one of them knows that you accumulate demerit points on your licence.

The colloquial phrase of “I still have all my points” or “I still have 4 point’s left” literally means, I still have 12 points to accumulate, or I have 4 more demerit points to accrue before I lose my licence.

Your post is a waste of space because everyone knows the information already, you’re all jumped up and hyped up on Internet “knowitallism.” Good work, do you run around telling people that you know boats?

There you go, there’s a come back for you.

Got anything else to waste the people’s time, I’m sure you do, you special little person.

I am really impressed that by yourself you surveyed every single person in Australia why drives a vehicle, so that when you make this statement “that EVERY person who drives in Australia and I do mean EVERY one of them knows that you accumulate demerit points on your licence” you know it is correct.

I am amazed, considering that organising the Australian Census is a mammoth effort, requiring a huge team of Census collectors; then the data processing centre in Melbourne to analyse all the results.

How did you get to all the regional and remote centres to ask all the people there. What were your RSEs like? What about people who disagreed with your statement? Or were there none?

Please send me a message, because if you can survey everyone in Australia faster and cheaper than the Australian Bureau of Statistics, I really want to know how it is done.

vet111 2:54 pm 22 Sep 11

While we’re on the topic of hatchbacks, I’d just like to send out a warning to anyone travelling the Monaro from Rose Cottage to the city each morning around 7.30. If you see a black piece of crap with a blonde bint in it who thinks she is a rallycar driver, probably best to stay away – I saw her almost take out a cyclist as well as a number of other drivers this morning. Speeding like a mad thing, weaving in and out of traffic.

Normally I don’t worry about that sort of stuff, but she was actually scary – driving significantly above the limit in heavy traffic, she can’t drive to save her life (or anyone else’s) and didn’t have any consideration for those around her.

Number plate starts with YFX. Won’t give you the last three digits/letters because I’m not 100% sure I got them right. Not sure on the car – looked like a focus or similar?

Love, if you want to kill yourself go right ahead. In fact, I’ll be your own personal cheer squad. But before you smear your selfish and arrogant body parts all over the road, at least have the decency to leave the rest of us the fcuk alone.

/End rant
Wow, that feels better! Long-time reader and poster, now under a different name – hello everyone, it’s good to be back 🙂

Snoman 2:49 pm 22 Sep 11

Solidarity said :

Anyone who says they’ve never broken a road rule is a liar.

Never, not once. How is that unbelievable? Road rules are made to be understood by dumbasses to stop them from killing each other with the 1500kg of metal they’re hurtling around in, they’re simple, straightforward and allow you to reach your destination quickly, really quickly in Canberra actually.

Solidarity 2:10 pm 22 Sep 11

Anyone who says they’ve never broken a road rule is a liar.

Snoman 10:52 pm 21 Sep 11

luther_bendross said :

You broke the law champion, I hope you get caught. Why the freak were you going 83km/h in a 60km/h zone? To take a piss? Here’s a few thoughts: speed limits, particularly 60 zones are set according to road conditions. So you go 23km/h faster that would seem safe. You then lose control of your shitbox Excel and plow it into a telegraph pole. For the next 60 years of your life you can piss into a plastic bag and your family can feed you cold soup while you sit in a wheelchair, unable to move but fully able to think about how bad you needed that piss 60 years ago.

+1

Even though I’m on my P’s, drive a hatchback and have never broken even a single road rule (yeah I’m the one you get stuck behind doing 60 through Glenloch & up along Caswell to Belconnen Way – you know, between the 60 signs?) I believe the “P-plater stereotype” is a safe one to make, I’ve seen way too many P-platers maliciously exercising “their version” of the road rules to the terror of other drivers. That said just today I happened to be formonelaneing down Dudley St onto Adelaide Ave when a lady clipped past me in a brand new bmw x5, had to be only a few inches away, easily doing 95-100, we were going in the same direction and I spotted her pulling off Grey St into Girls Grammar, it was at around 4pm and it scared the crap out of me to think that she might be picking up a kid.

Emma29 you may not have posted here to have your driving criticized but the people doing so are doing the right thing, it may have been 11pm on a Wednesday and the roads may have been quiet but provided you’re IRL, the car that you’re in can take real people’s lives. Anyone who speeds or drives under the influence is risking their lives and the lives of every other road user and pedestrian.

Hope you lose your license

thatsnotme 8:48 pm 21 Sep 11

Erg0 said :

…and with the original target departing, we see the denizens of the thread begin to turn on each other…

I’m imagining that said in a Sir David Attenborough voice, it seems to fit.

buzz819 5:52 pm 21 Sep 11

Disinformation said :

So you now know that every person in Australia knows this, yet they seem to all want to use incorrect terminology.
How amazingly convenient to back up your assertions.

Tell me how this is possible that you can ascertain this mass demonstration of misunderstanding is actually evidence of enlightenment?

Is backing yourself into a losing position something that you’ve actively studied? You seem to be extremely good at it.

Do you actually understand the meaning of the word “irrelevant”?

Or is your failure to comprehend it ACTUALLY evidence that you do according to your “every person” statement?

Best you feed your monkeys. At least mine can structure a creditable argument with references.

Ha ha ha good work on getting worked up over absolutely nothing, at least you can admit you use monkey’s smarter then you, that’s a start.

I hope you can sit back and realise how much of a douche you a being, but an entertaining one.

To the original poster, chill out till the end of the week, if you haven’t got any speeding tickets, mobile phone tickets or any other that have a demerit point penalty, then you will just have 1 point to play with until either you do your “P” off course, or until you get your full licence.

If you do get one and you want to dispute it, just remember that you will have to stand in front of a magistrate and a court full of people and tell them you didn’t manage to go to the toilet before you decided to drive.

The other alternative is that you don’t receive anything and you will be fine.

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