Images of Canberra – Civic Skate Park

johnboy 18 January 2007 102

Miranda’s tour of the skate parks continues. This time with the urban desolation of Civic.

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simbo simbo 8:28 pm 06 Feb 07

Yes, my god, two kids who do this kind of thing moved on to do grafiti art. Obviously we should ban it.

Just as at least two blokes who have tried alcohol have turned into drunken deros – so we must ban alcohol.

You know it makes sense, Bonfire…

bonfire bonfire 8:18 pm 06 Feb 07

From todays Herald Sun:

Council class ‘sparked graffiti spree’
February 06, 2007

TWO New South Wales youths involved in a tagging vandalism spree in Melbourne’s train yards got interested in graffiti through council youth art programs, a court was told today.

The vandals posed as workers for the Connex suburban rail network by wearing reflective vests as they tagged several trains. Their efforts caused about $10,000 damage to a Connex Siemens train at the Newport rail yard.

Connex has had to withdraw almost half of its 72 Siemens trains from service in recent weeks, after a series of unexplained brake failures.

Today, Brendan Ussher, 22, of Cardiff, near Newcastle, Mark Cameron, 21, of Hamilton, Newcastle, and Martin Weir, 18, of Tamworth, pleaded guilty in the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court to damaging property and trespass.

Ussher and Weir arrived in Melbourne from Sydney between January 29 and February 1 this year, Leading Senior Constable Cameron Cunningham said.

They filmed themselves while they caused $10,000 damage to a Connex train at the Newport railyard in the early hours of February 3, during an organised gathering of graffiti artists.

Later that day, Cameron joined the pair and they scouted locations to target that night.

In the early hours of February 4, the trio caused almost $1000 worth of damage to a passenger train at the V-Line Spencer Street railyard.

On this occasion, they wore bright orange vests to pose as Connex workers.

They then went to the North Melbourne rail yards and caused about $2000 damage to a train.

The next day, the trio returned to Spencer Street rail yards where waiting police arrested Cameron. Officers later caught Weir and Ussher at another location.

Acting for Weir, Peter Clarebrough told the court his client was interested in graffiti as art and had painted murals voluntarily for his local council.

“He first got into it when the council set up a legal wall where young people could go,” Mr Clarebrough said.

He said Weir was in “extraordinary shock” after having spent a night in jail and his journey to Melbourne was a trip he now regrets.

Acting for Ussher, Greg Thomas said his client also had been involved in creating murals for Newcastle Council and had taken part in a program where he discouraged other young people from illegal graffiti.

“In a sense, these offences are connected very much with youth … a sense of art or a sense of adventure,” Mr Thomas said.

Acting for Cameron, Peter Schumpeter said his client had found his night in jail “terrifying” and asked Magistrate Peter Lauritsen not to impose an immediate term of imprisonment.

The trio will spend another night in jail tonight, before being assessed for a community based order tomorrow.
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This is my favourite part:

Acting for Weir, Peter Clarebrough told the court his client was interested in graffiti as art and had painted murals voluntarily for his local council.

“He first got into it when the council set up a legal wall where young people could go,” Mr Clarebrough said.

Moral of the story – its not art its vandalism and the entire graffiti culture rests on illegal destruction of public and private property.

Danman Danman 10:17 am 20 Jan 07

Additionally – whilst waiting to renew my rego at dickson rego office – I was watching that canberra connect TV that they have installed there.

There was a spread featuring about a dozen canberra graffiti artists and their artwork – one of which was my brother – why would canberra connect condone illegal art or as some would call it – vandalism.

The gallery is full of art – I dont like it – but the masses still say its art.

I respect that.

If you could see past your nose – you will realise how vast and wonderful our world is.
Sometimes you have to concede and realise that you are not 100% correct on 100% of issues
Its just a pity that you will go about life with your blinkers on – staying close towho and what you know and trust.

To really experience life you have to get burnt every now and then.

How can you define darkness when all you know is light ?

c’mon man – live a little.

I have no more to say on this

Burgo Burgo 9:45 am 20 Jan 07

BOnfire, if i don’t like the coffee in your shop i’d say it’s my opinion to say “its actually not real coffee at all and tastes like sewrage water” but to proclaim (in all my infintite wisdom) that your coffee is not actaully coffee at all would be a bit silly, stupid, close minded.. of course it’s still coffee.. just not coffee i would want digested. Here lies my point with you saying graffiti is not art. Fine dude, you don’t like it, it’s not that hard to admit but you make yourself sound incredibly stupid when proclaiming its NOT art at all.
As with danman, my brother is also one of the artists who were originally approached by the canberra centre to do a mural at the skatepark. He runs a SUCCESSFUL and legal graffiti business, painting murals on MANY of canberra’s business walls as well as be commisioned to do work in peoples homes. (See bonfire, people approach him, he doesn’t threaten them for business.. maybe you threaten people who go to other coffee shops, i dunno? maybe thats just how you roll) He and his work has been featured in newspapers and magazines as a respected artist, as have MANY other legal graffiti artists.
You lump ALL grafitti artists as being illegal deviants who vandalise – which is just a load of s**t. How many graffiti artists (or as you would say vandals) do you actually KNOW personally. Cause from where i sit, you come across as someone who really, knows nothing about the people or the art you so easily want to put down.
It’s great i think that due to your ignorant coments so many people are talking about the subject, hopefully the people who read this will be edged on by your ignorance to actually go look at the murals they like and obtain the phone nubers advertised by the artists and commision their own work.

Burgo Burgo 2:13 am 20 Jan 07

I personally know one of these “artists” and he has been aproached by business owners and completed many murals around civic for the one and only cause to stop graffiti on those walls

Absent Diane Absent Diane 4:23 pm 19 Jan 07

i prefer using the atm machine machine.

The word Grafitti is actually french for terrible street art performed by young hooligans who sniff petrol and rape stuffed toys. Well it’s not, but that isn’t beside the point, whatever that point may or may not be.

Blamemonkey Blamemonkey 3:46 pm 19 Jan 07

I think the word Graffiti is more like the word Xerox Machine, maybe incorrect but becomes into such wide use that it becomes acceptable

Maelinar Maelinar 3:26 pm 19 Jan 07

BM, Graffiti is an art form. An illegal one.

Now that you’ve received that acknowledgement I hope you can go to sleep tonight with a clear concience. I never denied that it was a form of art however.

All Graffiti is illegal. Use of the redundant term ‘illegal graffiti’ is much the same as stating ‘ATM machine’.

Maelinar Maelinar 3:23 pm 19 Jan 07

BM, Graffiti is an art form. An illegal one. Graffiti is illegal.

Graffiti that is legal is called a fucking mural you eggswipe.

Blamemonkey Blamemonkey 3:12 pm 19 Jan 07

Hey Maelinar, is Graffiti a type of art?

Graffiti can be and regularly is a type of mural, and a fresco is a technique I wouldn’t expect my old mate Michelangelo to bust out a spray can in the 1500s

For the people that don’t understand what I’m saying I’ll bust out the bold tag

1. Graffiti is a form of art
2. Illegal Graffiti is bad3. Bonfire is ignorant

Maelinar Maelinar 3:00 pm 19 Jan 07

FFS what happens to bread when you put it in the toaster ?

You get toast.

Graffiti that is legal is no longer called graffiti, it’s a mural.

Interestingly, when you put toast in a toaster it doesn’t come out as toast either – it’s then called a zwieback.

Mr_Shab Mr_Shab 2:57 pm 19 Jan 07

My bizarre circular argument? Jeebus! Are we on the same planet here?

Yep – most of the graffiti in Canberra is illegal. Some of it isn’t. No need to tar all graffiti with the same brush (ahem). Might as well ban all driving cause some people speed.

I would argue that legal graffiti, as was supposed to happen on the wall in the photo, would work to reduce the amount of illegal (and frankly, ugly) stuff floating around (rather like the throwups in photo).

I’m sure I speak for all the advocates of legal graffiti when I say I would be happy to see the end of illegal graffiti. We advocate more legal murals on walls as a way of beautifying our city. Surely you don’t begrudge adding a little colour and movement to a grey wall here and there…

If there were scores of artists kicking around who could do wall murals in other styles, I’d advocate that too. Hell – I say turn the whole city into a living art gallery, with pieces in every conceivable style.

Thumper Thumper 2:53 pm 19 Jan 07

Or a small furry animal….

Maelinar Maelinar 2:49 pm 19 Jan 07

Graffiti is the unofficial application of graphics on publicly viewable surfaces. It is defined as being “a drawing or writing scratched on a wall or other surface; a scribbling on an ancient wall, as those at Pompeii and Rome”.[1] When done without the property owner’s consent, graffiti is a form of vandalism and is punishable by law in most countries

What graffiti is NOT;

a mural (perhaps what your friend was painting?)
a fresco (Michelangelo)
an inscription

Tonka Tonka 2:44 pm 19 Jan 07

Nah mate, you should just give it a rest.

This whole do as I say, not as I do attitude renders your points moot.

It’s okay for you to break the law at will, in a fashion which endangers your life, other lives and can ruin the lives of the cops who’d have to pull your dead ass out of a wreck, but god forbid some teenager should drop a tag somewhere.

We can’t have that now can we?

Idiot.

My guess is that you don’t like graf cos you only like the colour brown. It’s the only one you’d see with your head stuck so far up your ass.

Maelinar Maelinar 2:41 pm 19 Jan 07

I’d happily go with a 100% rating with a +/- error adjustment of 1%

bonfire bonfire 2:38 pm 19 Jan 07

if someone chooses to have graffiti on their property – more power to them.

you cant ascribe beliefs to me which i dont hold just because it suits your bizarre circular argument.

and if you think comparing the sistine chapel to the drughazed scrawlings of people aping ny subway culture proves your point you are mistaken.

when one looks at a work of art you can tell its a work of art.

when one looks at graffiti you cant tell if its vandalism or placed there with the permission of the owner of the property.

despite the softhead bleatings of tonka and his ilk, im pretty sure that 99% of the graffiti seen in canberra has not been placed their with the permission of the owner of the property.

Blamemonkey Blamemonkey 2:30 pm 19 Jan 07

I m not a hypocrite tonka, but I don’t defend an illegal act as legal cos its artistic.

No but obviously you are a mindless ignorant penis puller, you cannot see that Tonka is not condoning illegal graffiti but is against it, you also fail to acknowledge that if the Artist has been commissioned for a work of art it is no longer illegal!

Just because you do not like it does not stop graffiti from being art, but it seems nothing can stop you for being an idiot.

What would you call Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel? Illegal graffiti or art? Let us compare Micks work and a commissioned grafiti artists
1. Both done on a building
2. They were asked to paint it
3. Oh it was painted

Holy Mama Jama, Michelangelo was a graffiti artist time to judge him and not acknowledge his works as art!

Mr_Shab Mr_Shab 2:29 pm 19 Jan 07

“Speeding kills” is without foundation? Now you’re just talking pants. As usual you’re the sole arbiter of what laws are stupid and what are good and should result in the summary execution of the offender.

Regardless – Tonka never argued for illegal graffiti or for vandalism. In fact, he seems to have been quite vociferous in his opposition. He has sought to bas

You are arguing that graffiti should never be legal, even when the owner of the wall in question wants it there (any may even be willing to pay for it – such as the case of the Petrie Plaza murals).

That’s awfully anti-libertarian of you, isn’t it? Are we seeing the emergence of a new Stalinist bonfire?

I must say though – you’ve been remarkably consistent with your “All graffiti is vandalism, and all graffiti artists are vandals” argument; even if it’s completely untenable.

Blamemonkey Blamemonkey 2:29 pm 19 Jan 07

I m not a hypocrite tonka, but I don’t defend an illegal act as legal cos its artistic.

No but obviously you are a mindless ignorant wanker, you cannot see that Tonka is not condoning illegal graffiti but is against it, you also fail to acknowledge that if the Artist has been commissioned for a work of art it is no longer illegal!

Just because you do not like it does not stop graffiti from being art, but it seems nothing can stop you for being an idiot.

What would you call Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel? Illegal graffiti or art? Let us compare Micks work and a commissioned grafiti artists
1. Both done on a building
2. They were asked to paint it
3. Oh it was painted

Holy Mama Jama, Michelangelo was a graffiti artist time to judge him and not acknowledge his works as art!

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