Is Ainslie under a flightpath now?

greencape 9 November 2010 30

At 5.05pm today a Virgin jet flew very low directly over Ainslie Shops while taking off heading south.

Since when was Ainslie under a flight path? Who do you call?


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farnarkler farnarkler 9:00 pm 10 Nov 10

GFY? That’s about what air services australia will say to you greencape when you complain to them. You must be the life of the party when a Harley Davidson or a worked V8 goes past your house.

greencape greencape 8:45 pm 10 Nov 10

..and to CAF too, for the link to webtrak.

greencape greencape 8:37 pm 10 Nov 10

Thanks Sepi, just what I wanted to know.

As for you other cheezel eating troll freaks with nothing better to do than rant GFY…

indigoid indigoid 8:38 am 10 Nov 10

sepi said :

Planes take off over Ainslie/Hackett, they don’t come in to land, so there is no going up and down over the mountain.

On any occasions you’ve had to visit any airport anywhere ever, did you actually look out the window and observe the aircraft landing and taking off?

The aircraft generally land in the same direction that they take off: against the wind.

They don’t operate this way on a whim… Like most things in aviation there is a good reason for it

luther_bendross luther_bendross 10:14 pm 09 Nov 10

I-filed said :

As a resident who fits ALL of the above criteria except the Prius. (Subaru Outback) I’ll increase your angst by enjoying a bit of schadenfreude at your jealous expense, since you’ve tempted and invited it! :]

1. Saying “schadenfreude at your jealous expense” is akin to saying “the very noisy planes’ noise was too noisy”, or “ATM machine”.
2. I too lived in Ainslie, but made the decision to leave due to wanker overload
3. Subaru FTW.

sepi sepi 9:35 pm 09 Nov 10

I forgot about webtrak – it seems to have better zoom etc now than last time I looked.
You can see this plane at 5.04 yesterday.
It doesn’t go right over Ainslie shops, but turns at around foveaux st, at 1440 m altitude.

The complaint form is here:
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com.au/ncm/

They will probably just advise you that it was due to a weather incident, but if noone complains they may assume that noone in Ainslie minds a bit of aircraft noise.

Most people don’t mind the occaisional plane, but the really loud ones do make you think how bad it would be to have them going all night long, or every 2 minutes all day.

I-filed I-filed 9:10 pm 09 Nov 10

luther_bendross said :

Yep, +1. Before you fly off the handle, apply some logic as to why this may have occurred, then go back inside your $850k ex-government house and take your homeopthic remedies before you drive your Prius to The Front. Planes fly in the sky, that’s just what they do.

Phew. I needed that.

As a resident who fits ALL of the above criteria except the Prius. (Subaru Outback) I’ll increase your angst by enjoying a bit of schadenfreude at your jealous expense, since you’ve tempted and invited it! :]

farnarkler farnarkler 7:11 pm 09 Nov 10

Shall I call Lifeline for you?? It sounds like your whole World has come crashing down around you.

caf caf 5:35 pm 09 Nov 10

You can watch on WebTrak to see the actual path it took (it’s about 40 minutes delayed from real time).

sepi sepi 4:22 pm 09 Nov 10

I’m not talking about planes manouvering at all. I’m talking of widening of flightpaths or changing them . This happens regularly in sydney = eg – when they built the third runway all sorts of new suburbs got aircraft noise or worse aircraft noise.

Planes take off over Ainslie/Hackett, they don’t come in to land, so there is no going up and down over the mountain.

troll-sniffer troll-sniffer 3:40 pm 09 Nov 10

sepi said :

I think this is something to worry about. If flying over Ainslie shops is the next best route for planes to take when there is a storm over Hackett, then once we have a lot more planes than we have now, flight paths will have to be widened, and this route over Ainslie will be a logical new flightpath.

I love it when those whose knowledge of aviation matters is miniscule come on here, it’s as close as I get to midweek sport.

Sepi, your statement is baseless in both fact and direction. In yesterday’s exception to the rules, the Virgin plane would have been given the option of turning away from a potentially dangerous route through active thunderstorm cells to the north. The pilot would have accepted the option in order to get his or her load of SLF to their destination, presumably Melbourne. This does not set a precedent, nor is there any suggestion the airlines would ever consider a path over the inner north to be a viable alternative to the current tracks out over Gungahlin. An increase in traffic does not mean flight paths ever have to be widened, that’s just plain silly given the two minute separations that aircraft have to maintain as a minimum.

luther_bendross luther_bendross 3:38 pm 09 Nov 10

Nope, turns out I’m not done yet. Sorry about my grammar here, but sweet jesus!

sepi said :

If flying over Ainslie shops is the next best route for planes to take when there is a storm over Hackett, then …

blah blah…

How far apart are Ainslie and Hackett? 2km? Do you really think there’s a remote possibility that a plane travelling at a conservative 300km/h for landing (that’s 83m/s, so covers the 2km in 24 sec) would detour around this meteorological phenomenon of a storm you’re proposing that hits Ainslie but not Hackett at an altitude that allows the plane to be heard in Ainslie and not in Hackett, then gains altitude to get over Mt Ainslie, then loses it and banks HARD to make the runway?

I suppose the point I’m trying to make is that the pilot is flying a jet aircraft (still assuming a Virgin Blue jet, probably an E190), whose noise disperses radially downwards, which physically cannot maneuver like you’re suggesting, all whilst trying to ensure 110 people on board do not die. Your comment has more flaws than syllables.

facet facet 3:18 pm 09 Nov 10

Kristina Keneally was paying another quick inspection of the proposed Tralee development and needed to be sure aircraft noise was still not a problem.

luther_bendross luther_bendross 3:00 pm 09 Nov 10

troll-sniffer said :

Of all the pathetically pointless posts I’ve read this week, this one takes the cake. One jet vectored over a residential area to avoid storms and ensure the safety of the passengers, and the OP has to have a whinge. The RAAF do a hundred more low level circuits over Ainslie than the airlines do.

One diverted aircraft a flight path does not make. Aircraft, like cars and people, sometimes have to take a different path to what is normally expected. Get over it. There must be more important issues to post about, like your tea gets colder faster in winter, or you don’t like the look of the brown ovals in summer.

Yep, +1. Before you fly off the handle, apply some logic as to why this may have occurred, then go back inside your $850k ex-government house and take your homeopthic remedies before you drive your Prius to The Front. Planes fly in the sky, that’s just what they do.

Phew. I needed that.

sepi sepi 2:57 pm 09 Nov 10

I think this is something to worry about. If flying over Ainslie shops is the next best route for planes to take when there is a storm over Hackett, then once we have a lot more planes than we have now, flight paths will have to be widened, and this route over Ainslie will be a logical new flightpath.

bd84 bd84 2:56 pm 09 Nov 10

Don’t people have some sort of common sense anymore? Blind Freddy would have been able to adequately reason that the plane’s flightpath was related to the storms that were about at the time.

Who to call? I’ll happily provide you with 50 cents to go call someone who cares..

DeadlySchnauzer DeadlySchnauzer 2:54 pm 09 Nov 10

Once the airport freight hub opens up you can look forward to that one off flight being a loud 747 freighter at 2am in the morning. But as the airport justifies it, that will only be a few nights a year you lose some sleep… on *average* you will be fine.

troll-sniffer troll-sniffer 2:16 pm 09 Nov 10

Of all the pathetically pointless posts I’ve read this week, this one takes the cake. One jet vectored over a residential area to avoid storms and ensure the safety of the passengers, and the OP has to have a whinge. The RAAF do a hundred more low level circuits over Ainslie than the airlines do.

One diverted aircraft a flight path does not make. Aircraft, like cars and people, sometimes have to take a different path to what is normally expected. Get over it. There must be more important issues to post about, like your tea gets colder faster in winter, or you don’t like the look of the brown ovals in summer.

arescarti42 arescarti42 12:38 pm 09 Nov 10

Dammit, Ghostbusters was exactly what I was thinking too, got beaten to the punch.

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