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Is it legal for a truck with Tank Water on the side to fill up from the mains water supply

By eggman 9 November 2008 58

[First filed: November 07, 2008 @ 11:10
Second filing: November 08, 2008 @ 14:35]

This photo was taken this morning in Gungahlin.

Whilst we all attempt keep within the water restrictions why should a big truck like this who claims to use tank water be allowed to fill up from the mains water supply?

UPDATED: Eggman has added the following update:

    i got a reply from actew as follows:

    Thank you for your email.

    I have confirmed with ActewAGL’s Water Division that the operator
    pictured is licensed to take water from Actew’s potable network.

    The company pictured has a contract to extract water and use it in the
    course of their landscaping business activities. These ’standpipes’ are
    metered and water consumed is charged at the highest billing rate
    (currently $3.70 per kilolitre). Businesses permitted to use metered
    standpipes must abide by the Stage 3 Water Restrictions.

    Please contact the Water Conservation Office if you require further
    information or assistance.

    Regards,

    Water Conservation Office
    ACTEW Corporation Limited
    waterconservation@actew.com.au

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Grail 1:17 pm 20 Jan 11

Think of it this way: there is now a known price for landscaping water. Call the guys to offer your tank water for less. Make sure you have the required pumping gear to supply a few hundred liters a minute too.

Then lobby the Govt & ACTEW to increase the price of tap water until it becomes profitable for you to sell these guys your rainwater.

The type of pump you are after is a fire pump or transfer pump, typically rated at 500L/min, costs about $1-2k, not including petrol and maintenance.

hax 12:06 pm 10 Nov 08

AG Canberra said :

So 10 000 litre tank (guessing) – costs $37 to fill (plus the $430 per year for the licence)…..not a bad deal really.

In the olden days it fell right out of the sky. True story.

ant 10:23 am 10 Nov 08

The water truck got bogged at my neighbour’s place some years back. They often get water trucked in, but on this occasion, it had rained and the slope down to the tank was muddy, and I heard some very unhappy truck noises from down there. Eventually the neighbour came home and pulled the truck out of trouble, with his Hilux.

Skidbladnir 10:05 am 10 Nov 08

That just for base product, the largest part of the deal would be equipment and fuel used to transport it, 10,000 litres of water weighs ten tonnes.

AG Canberra 9:42 am 10 Nov 08

So 10 000 litre tank (guessing) – costs $37 to fill (plus the $430 per year for the licence)…..not a bad deal really.

Mr Evil 9:22 am 10 Nov 08

At least the contractor had the decency to keep his buttcrack well covered.

Danman 8:25 am 10 Nov 08

Like I said a few days ago Should have not wasted your time taking a photo/posting to riotact and just asked the operator then and there.

Also to Ant
Let’s keep increasing the population though, yeah that makes sense.

“Become Soylent Green” could be the way of the future 🙂

eggman 3:27 pm 09 Nov 08

i got a reply from actew as follows:

Thank you for your email.

I have confirmed with ActewAGL’s Water Division that the operator
pictured is licensed to take water from Actew’s potable network.

The company pictured has a contract to extract water and use it in the
course of their landscaping business activities. These ‘standpipes’ are
metered and water consumed is charged at the highest billing rate
(currently $3.70 per kilolitre). Businesses permitted to use metered
standpipes must abide by the Stage 3 Water Restrictions.

Please contact the Water Conservation Office if you require further
information or assistance.

Regards,

Water Conservation Office
ACTEW Corporation Limited
waterconservation@actew.com.au

miz 11:07 am 09 Nov 08

So, logically, we need greater storage capacity and catchment areas. Tightening through restrictions can only go so far. We should have an extra dam. The proposed Tennent they keep avoiding would be way more than just extending the Cotter, and in a different location so we cover more catchment. Canberra is in a potentially water-rich area – if we catch it when it falls. But it won’t do much good if we don’t catch and store it so it can be managed. If we had this, we could easily do the enviro flows for downstream as we would have plenty, and others would also benefit.

Time to build the dam, people! It WILL rain – Lake BG filled in a weekend after many months of people wondering if enough rain would ever fall. These things go in cycles, so if we are going through a big dry, sure as eggs is eggs we will get a wet period. We just need to have that storage capacity.

ant 9:06 am 09 Nov 08

What I want to know is, where is all this extra water we need going to come from? And if the Riverina irrigators have no water, what are we going to eat?

Let’s keep increasing the population though, yeah that makes sense.

imhotep 11:37 pm 08 Nov 08

monomania said :

“Water has been subsidized for years!…. A gardener in Canberra has as much right to the water as an irrigator downstream growing fodder for race horses..”

I disagree. Most irrigation is not used growing ‘fodder for race horses’, as you know. The cheap water the irrigators get also underwrites the cheap and reliable food we all eat in the cities. It’s not the fault of irrigators that the Murray Darling is dying. It’s not even the fault of the current ‘drought’. When Sturt ‘discovered’ the Darling in 1829, he found the water too salty to drink.

All the dams, irrigation infrastructure and even our ideas about water are all predicated on a series of wetter-than-usual decades after WW2. The rainfall we have seen in the last ten years is more a return to ‘normal’ after an unusually wet period. (see http://www.ipa.org.au/publications/883/the-macquarie-marshes-an-ecological-history/pg/19 pge. 10)

monomania said :

“People in the cities are being made feel guilty about their water use for no good reason because governments have stuffed up in the past.”

Very true. The amount of water a city like Canberra uses on gardens etc. is minuscule compared to agriculture. But the amount of water used to supply the lifestyle we lead in the city is enormous.

The irrigators will have to become more efficient, sure. And, like us, they mostly are. But governments are going to have to shoulder the responsibility for supplying people with a reasonable amount of water, not trying to shift the blame onto others.

Our government is quite happy to take developer’s money in building new suburbs. We should expect some of that money to be spent on supplying the extra water those suburbs need.

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Post #36, hear hear. Local govco is not only screwing us on providing us water, but they’ve managed to convince many of us that it’s up to US to fix the problem. Who the hell are they representing? Everyone knows a city will require more water as it grows – where the hell is the new infrastructure.

I’m not against sensible water savings, and in fact think sensible and light restrictions should be business-as-usual, but such strategies will only take us so far.

When and where is the new infrastructure, larger catchment or strategy to pipe water in from other places?

Australia needs a new big project to pull us together. How about damming the Ord river and piping it to other states?

Holierthanthou 10:39 pm 08 Nov 08

Actually there isn’t even an apostrophe. The spittle of commenters, not commenters’ spittle.

I have to have counterdisagree. If used as an adjective the singular version would be used commenter spittle. Similarly we say bull poop not bulls poop.

JC 8:35 pm 08 Nov 08

uncle sam said :

Its not a mains water supply for a start, the hydrant is supplied by actew, they also bill the company on its water usage. As far as I am aware water usage is permitted for a government contract.

What do you mean it is not mains water? Sorry to say it is, it isn’t like there are two sets of pipes under the street, one for homes and one for fires. But yes as many have pointed out the pipe has a meter in it so they are charged.

uncle sam 8:23 pm 08 Nov 08

theres a meter on the hydrant itself which is how they bill the contractors.

uncle sam 7:42 pm 08 Nov 08

Its not a mains water supply for a start, the hydrant is supplied by actew, they also bill the company on its water usage. As far as I am aware water usage is permitted for a government contract.

miz 4:34 pm 08 Nov 08

monomania, hear hear. I just wish the pollies would base their decisions on facts, not ideologies!

monomania 3:32 pm 08 Nov 08

ChrisinTurner said :

Water has been subsidised for years! It is about time we paid the proper price.

It is hard to see why each person in Canberra is still using over 300 litres of water per day.

In Brisbane the water trucks have to fill using their own sealed metered spike.

What is the proper price? It all depends how you price the environmental cost of extra storage and the water abstracted from the river system. A gardener in Canberra has as much right to the water as an irrigator downstream growing fodder for race horses. In Canberra, low water users are being subsidised by those of us who are maintaining the heritage values of the garden city. We need a higher connection charge, no tax and a single volumetric price. If water is scarce add a levy which can be removed when more water is available. Government is elected to do what its citizens want. If we want 300L per day, build enough storage to make this possible when less water is available. In non drought times we take a piddling amount compared to irrigators along the Murrumbidgee. People in the cities are being made feel guilty about their water use for no good reason because governments have stuffed up in the past.

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