6 February 2009

It's doctor search time again

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I need a new GP. I have been diagnosed with a few chronic and autoimmune illnesses, and these are being managed by a doctor in Sydney, but obviously I can’t go to Sydney every time I have a cold or whathaveyou. I don’t feel comfortable going to my old GP as they have been of little help with my conditions and seem unwilling to listen or learn. I’d like a GP that was open to slightly unorthodox treatments (and I don’t mean woo-woo homeopathy rubbish etc, just treatments that don’t play strictly by-the-book); one that won’t get upset if I do research on my own health, listens, and doesn’t accuse me of being a hypochondriac. 😛

I don’t particularly mind where they’re located in Canberra/Queanbeyan, though inner south/north is slightly preferable. I also don’t mind if it’s a couple of weeks wait to get in, but obviously sooner is better.

So, anyone got any tips? Thanks.

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BlueMonday said :

I would 3rd, 4th & 5th doctor Keneally at Gunghalin. He’s been great with me, & is definitely positive about you researching & learning about your health & discussing it with him.

And as far as I know he’s actually taking patients … & yes, he runs on time. He also takes time between patients to make thorough notes & to brush up on the patient he’s about to see … so when you get in there, he knows where things are up to from last time. Can’t say I’ve EVER had a doctor do that.

Agreed!! Its a pain to get out there for me, but at least its worthwhile. I’ll sing his praises from any rooftop when asked. He mentioned that he’d seen the reccomendation in a previosu thread too 😉 lol.

and no i’m not receiving any kickbacks or the like, 🙂 he’s just a good doctor and its nice to give someone who does their job well a few kudos now and then, instead of the doc bashing that normally happens.

Good luck Riboflavin.

I would 3rd, 4th & 5th doctor Keneally at Gunghalin. He’s been great with me, & is definitely positive about you researching & learning about your health & discussing it with him.

And as far as I know he’s actually taking patients … & yes, he runs on time. He also takes time between patients to make thorough notes & to brush up on the patient he’s about to see … so when you get in there, he knows where things are up to from last time. Can’t say I’ve EVER had a doctor do that.

tylersmayhem11:06 am 09 Feb 09

So…what was the end result anyway Riboflavin? Did you find a Dr to book in to?!

MrPC said :

I always go to the Ginninderra Medical Centre in Belconnen (behind/above the bus depot). There are usually 2-3 hour waits to see a doctor, but they bulk bill, and the doctors seem to pay attention and don’t rush you at all.

Heck, just the other day a doctor there spotted something in one of my ears that no other doctor had seen in all those times they shine a light into your ear. It had been driving me a bit nuts for about a decade. Within 10 minutes he had flushed it out with this gigantic steel contraption that they just happened to have at hand in the treatment room down the corridor.

Heh that’s pretty amusing, they keep dismissing me without checking me at all after I’ve come in there three times with breathing problems and even gave me a nebuliser to use which DIDN’T help me! I find these doctors hopeless and pathetic.

My niece hurt her ankle god knows how, we went there about two, three times because they couldn’t give us a straight answer and a solution. We eventually found out it was a sprain (you can sprain your ankle without realising) and then we were able to properly treat it instead of suspecting it was just a cramp or something.

I always go to the Ginninderra Medical Centre in Belconnen (behind/above the bus depot). There are usually 2-3 hour waits to see a doctor, but they bulk bill, and the doctors seem to pay attention and don’t rush you at all.

Heck, just the other day a doctor there spotted something in one of my ears that no other doctor had seen in all those times they shine a light into your ear. It had been driving me a bit nuts for about a decade. Within 10 minutes he had flushed it out with this gigantic steel contraption that they just happened to have at hand in the treatment room down the corridor.

Just bring a book, or a laptop with a large battery (or a power adapter, though they may not like that) and some DVDs, and some earphones. You’ll probably get through a full length movie before your name is called. The entire place is nicely air conditioned and 3 hours outside of the heat wave for free is fine by me.

The important thing is that they open til 10pm Weekdays, and they also open Saturdays and Sundays. Given that so many Canberrans work 9-5 weekdays or thereabouts, and virtually none of the medical practices are open outside those hours, this place is a breath of fresh air.

Ginninderra Medical and Dental Centre
Nettleford Street
Belconnen
Ph (02) 6112 7111

swamiOFswank9:37 am 07 Feb 09

I don’t think I want to say who my doctor is – she’s great, but I can’t get an appointment now inside of 3 days away, and if more people know about her, it’ll be a week or more…

FC said :

And on topic,
I have been adviosed by a close friend that the doctor at Fadden shops is excellent, caring and knowledgable.

Fadden Medical Centre
Hanlon Crs Fadden ACT 2904 – get directions
ph: (02) 6291 3511

Andrew is hopeless. He didn’t help me at all. I have quite a few mental and physical issues and I just wanted to know if there were any other treatments or more I could do. He just told me what I already knew, didn’t give me a reference for a shrink or anything else of use. If you got a flu, cold or infection and just need a pack of anti-biotics then he can calmly instruct you on how to take them 😛

I’ve seen countless doctors and they all have been useless. The only one that had any interest was Dr. La who was at Florey medical centre which I now think is at Ginninderra Medical Centre.

Anyway if you find a doctor worth mentioning please drop me a line!

Can the homeopathy proponents explain how one of Canberra’s foremost homeopaths, Richard somebody or other, used to create his “medicines” by putting a bit of spirits or plain water in a little bottle, and placing it in a wooden box to pick up “vibrations”? He didn’t buy homeopathic medicine in from anywhere.

Homeopathy is 100 per cent placebo effect.

FC said :

I’ve got a tip –

you could learn to state what you mean, “Not homeopathic treatments etc” rather than juat insulting professions,

I’m never heard of “woo-woo homeopathy rubbish”

I have – and homeopathy is rubbish!

Thank you everyone with recommendations. Someone at work recommended Dr Turtle but there’s a wait until October! I’ll give the other doctors a call.

I’ll bet a few dollars this person has a mindset on lots of things relating to his or her conditions that most professionals would find difficult to reconcile.

Nothing keeps a person healthy like constant low-level exercise. I’m not talking about wanky trendy pump sessions at the local meat houses, just long bouts of good fresh air exercise.

You bet wrong. I’m a skeptic and believe wholeheartedly in evidence-based medicine. I have a scientific background and am well able to interpret studies published in well-regarded, peer-reviewed journals (something many GPs are not that good at; they’re GPs, not statisticians). It’s just that treatments and diagnostics go in and out of fashion even if they are perfectly valid, legitimate, and work as well as anything else, and it is nice to find a doctor who remembers that there is more than one way to deal with some conditions, let alone considers discussing it with a patient. I like to discuss my health in a rational, intelligent manner with my health care provider rather than blindly accepting what they have to say; I expect that they should be able to tell me what the empirical evidence says. (And yes, I do them the courtesy of booking a long consultation.)

I’d love to be able to engage in constant low-level exercise. Too bad a normal walk around the block leaves me breathless and fatigued, and not in the good way like I remember a 45 minute run used to.

Sorry about the rant, but “Have you considered exercise” and the like is something I’ve heard 232011 times, and it’s pretty damn annoying.

My friend also recommends Dr Turtle as she has been rather happy with him. She recommended him to me but I like Dr Di Dio at Erindale Medical Centre.

After reading your requirements my doctor daughter recommends Dr Johnathan Turtle at Deakin.

I’ll second Tim Watson at Gungahlin.

i highly recommend the oasis medical center in manuka. they are more expensive than most GPs but almost all their patients have some sort of chronic illness. i’ve been with dr taylor for over three years now and while she isn’t taking patients dr turtle is. the only bad thing is the waiting list is pretty long so you might have to wait 6 months to see them. i really do recommend them though.

Oasis Medical Centre
(02) 6282 8008
34 Bougainville St
Manuka ACT 2603

I said it the last time, and i’ll say it again – Dr Steve Kenneally (now at Gungahlin Medical Centre, not Ainslie)
Caring, kind, understanding, holistic, and patient. AND – usually runs on time 🙂

tylersmayhem11:06 am 06 Feb 09

Good point – I too am an atheist. I really shouldn’t be using terms like Godsend should I. Well, you kind of get my point. Regardless, yes she has been far and away the best GP I’ve ever had, and I’m lucky because there has been more than one issue that could have easily been missed in most other Dr’s office.

Whoops. I’m an atheist. Clearly not a typist.

Wow, thanks for jogging my memory tylersmayhem. I’ve been to Dr Tait as well, although “godsend” isn’t a word I’d use (‘cos I’m an athiest). However, I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your assessment. she is a very talented, caring, knowledgeable and reliable doctor.

tylersmayhem10:51 am 06 Feb 09

Well – I’ll actually try and help the OP rather than snipe from the sidelines – if you can get in her packed book, Dr. Brenda Tait in Woden is a Godsend. Absolutely gold. She was originally recommended to me by my mother and some of my mums co-workers in the medical industry. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a GP who is more thorough, qualified, professional and approachable.

Good luck on your quest 😉

Woody Mann-Caruso10:47 am 06 Feb 09

without insulting homeopathy

It’s as worthy of utter contempt as using exorcism to treat mental illnesses.

It is acknowledged by the World Health Organisation as a valid form of health care

That’s a barefaced lie. The president of the French Association for Homeopathy Research stating in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization that homeopathy is “one of the most widespread non-conventional approaches to treatment known to the world ” isn’t quite the same thing as an endorsement by WHO at all, is it?

How about this “off the net”?

Homeopathy is unsupported by modern scientific research. The extreme dilutions used in homeopathic preparations usually leave none of the active ingredient (atoms, ions or molecules) in the final product. The idea that any biological effects could be produced by these preparations is inconsistent with the observed dose-response relationships of conventional drugs. The proposed rationale for these extreme dilutions – that the water contains the “memory” or “vibration” from the diluted ingredient – is also counter to the laws of chemistry and physics.

Seriously, if you believe this claptrap, I’ve got a perpetual motion machine you might like to buy.

riboflavin – good luck with your quest, and more power to you for taking an interest. I don’t recommend the doctor at Fadden, but do recommend Dr Tim Watson at Gunghalin very, very highly. Hw was the only doc who managed to diagnose my wife’s condition (previously brushed off as ‘tiredness’ or ‘lifestyle’ for what it was – a simple heliobacter pylori problem. Encouraged us to read about it online and to choose her preferred treatment option.

… also back on topic, Dr Tony Marinos at Holder shops is an excellent GP.

And on topic,
I have been adviosed by a close friend that the doctor at Fadden shops is excellent, caring and knowledgable.

Fadden Medical Centre
Hanlon Crs Fadden ACT 2904 – get directions
ph: (02) 6291 3511

Awww, come on FC, you’ve given up before we even started. Hrmph.

Who would have thought that the concept that the body is capable of healing itself would be so unfathomable to some.

HAH! Well if the body can heal itself (which of course it can), I don’t need to pay a quack $30 for sugar pills, now do I?

No quite skidbladnir. Kind of on the right track though.

This off the net:
“Homeopathy is a therapy based on the theory of treating like with like. Homeopaths treat a patient’s symptoms by giving a highly diluted form of a substance, animal, vegetable, or mineral, which, taken in a crude dose, would cause similar symptoms when given to a healthy person. In assessing the patient, homeopaths often take into account a range of physical, emotional and lifestyle factors.
Homeopathy was developed over 200 years ago and is now used worldwide. It is acknowledged by the World Health Organisation as a valid form of health care. Its effectiveness has been clearly established by over 200 years of clinical experience and has a pharmacy of over 2000 medicines, which are non-toxic and non-addictive, owing to their method of preparation. Homeopathy is also cost effective.”

So it prompts the body to heal itself, without the risk of harmful side effects.
When I did a lot of research into it as a part of my studies, I commenced with a lot of skeptisism, however it did seem to make sense the nore I learnt about the body and healing of ailments. I do note however, I am known to be more openminded to things than the average Joe.

I really don’t want to get into the debate about the effectiveness/validity of homeopathy though. I can’t really see that going anywhere other than a frustrated thread of people who are not going to change each others views. I haven’t the energy for it, being a friday. (Maybe if I had my rescue remedy with me I’d be more equipped to handle the debate ;))

I just thought that the original post could have been made without insulting homeopathy, and commented as such.

gun street girl10:21 am 06 Feb 09

I’m stating the obvious and well-known by saying Canberra has a shortage of GPs; and those that have established a good reputation have often had their books closed for years. Riboflavin, I would assume you’ve been referred to an immunologist (or similar) for ongoing care of your autoimmune illness(es) – they may have some suggestions as to who they recommend you follow on with, GP-wise.

GPs are impossible to find in Canberra, it’s definitely all wham-bam-thank-yee-maam.

You’ve got to hear what riboflavin is saying: they’re potentially looking for a doctor who gives a rat’s bottom… a commodity so rare in Canberra that I don’t actually believe it exists.

Me and mine have been to 4 diff GPs here and the hospital in the last few years and they were all just so apathetic and contemptuous towards the patients, though this is probably the only way they can maintain their poor over-worked sanity…

FC: Homeopathy involves diluting reagents to make them more effective, right?
So why do people pay for service, and claim that there is something special about “homeopathic remedies” if their end result is diluted to below the threshold probability of having a single reagent molecule ?
(IE: Its close to tapwater or even more pure than tapwater)

fnaah- the Australian government seems to disagree with you there. homeopaths are recognised as professionals and are required to undergo extensive training and comply with various standards and regulations.

Who would have thought that the concept that the body is capable of healing itself would be so unfathomable to some.

each to their own I suppose.

I’ll bet a few dollars this person has a mindset on lots of things relating to his or her conditions that most professionals would find difficult to reconcile.

Nothing keeps a person healthy like constant low-level exercise. I’m not talking about wanky trendy pump sessions at the local meat houses, just long bouts of good fresh air exercise.

Anyway you could try a surgery in Watson opposite the shops who are perhaps more tolerant of working around self-diagnosers.

FC, homeopathy isn’t a “profession”, it’s a marketing scam at best, and dangerous quackery at worst.

Lots of people have heard about “woo-woo homeopathy rubbish”, and the more people hear about it, the better.

(Same goes for magnetic blankets and air ionisers. Why are people so gullible?)

I’ve got a tip –

you could learn to state what you mean, “Not homeopathic treatments etc” rather than juat insulting professions,

I’m never heard of “woo-woo homeopathy rubbish”

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