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Keep Left – Unless Overtaking

By Hamilton 30 April 2008 78

Hi All,

 Not sure if this had been done to death on RioACT or not – I am new to the site.

 Is it illegal to stay in the right hand lane on a freeway in the ACT if you are not overtaking?  I am sick of getting stuck behind pin-heads on the parkway who choose to stay in the right lane doing 90 km/h next to the guy in the left hand lane also doing 90km/h with a thousand cars banked up behind them!!!

I think its time for some kind of police blitz.

What’s Your opinion?


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missj 12:53 pm 01 Mar 12

skaboy12 said :

Crikey said :

Don’t even get me started on the idiots who turn right at round-abouts from the left lane.

Or the morons who need 2 lanes of the roundabout to get through it. it is 2 lanes to allow for 2 cars, if you are using both then slow down and learn how to turn your car properly.

+1

G-Fresh 11:03 pm 20 Dec 08

Grumps said :

It is my understanding* that (according to the Australian Road Rules) A vehicle must keep as far to the left of the lane as practically possible and where there are multiple lanes you must keep to the left lane unless overtaking or making a right hand turn.

In the ACT jurisdiction it is as stipulated above. On roads with limits greater than 80km/h and where it is signposted as such you keep left. Otherwise, you keep where you damn well like.

Grumps 6:56 pm 20 Dec 08

It is my undestanding that (according to the Australian Road Rules) A vehicle must keep as far to the left of the lane as practically possible and where there are multiple lanes you must keep to the left lane unless overtaking or making a right hand turn. Huge f@*@!ing signs on Ginnindera Drive, William Hovel Drive etc; “Keep left unless overtaking” and what do 80%of vehicles do ? Keep sitting right on the double white lines playing chicken with the oncoming traffic and obstructing following vehicles.

G-Fresh 5:18 pm 20 Dec 08

You scallywag PB!

Pommy bastard 2:00 pm 20 Dec 08

ant said :

I believe Undertake is the term for overtaking on the “wrong” side.

And you would be right.

That’s interesting. In Br English, although we do use ‘inside track’ like that, we use ‘inside lane’ in the reverse meaning; so that in both the UK and the US the inside lane is on the left. There is the related expression ‘overtake on the inside’, sometimes – informally, jocularly – replaced with ‘undertake’ (with a punning reference to its dangerousness*).

http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/62662-inside-lane.html

ant 12:09 pm 20 Dec 08

I believe Undertake is the term for overtaking on the “wrong” side.

G-Fresh 11:59 am 20 Dec 08

Pommy bastard said :

In the UK when finding a moron driving slowly in the right lane it is commonly acceptable driving practice to undertake in the left lane, pull over into the right, and jump on the brakes.

Undertake. I think you mean overtake. On the left. Fail.

Pommy bastard 9:06 am 20 Dec 08

In the UK when finding a moron driving slowly in the right lane it is commonly acceptable driving practice to undertake in the left lane, pull over into the right, and jump on the brakes.

ant 9:42 am 02 May 08

Here’s a Positive Police Story… only it was in Queanbeyan this morning. Just as the school zone on Yass road ends, there was a lowered (but very not-cool) blue ute (early 90s model), sporting a red P plate and lettering on the back window saying “To Lo for a Fat Ho”. And sitting behind it was a police car with all its lights going.

Qbn survivor 8:52 am 02 May 08

Advice I received from RTA:

Driving lights should only be able to be operated when the vehicles headlamps are switched onto the high beam position.

Fog lamps can operate on various light settings,and you are correct,it is an offence to use them outside of certain adverse atmospheric conditions.

This can be found in the following regulation

Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) (Road Rules) Regulation 1999

55 Lights on motor vehicles generally

(cf MTR, r 95 (6))

A person must not cause or permit:
(a) any fog light affixed to a motor vehicle on a road to be lighted except in fog, mist or under other atmospheric conditions that restrict visibility, or
(b) any spot or search light affixed to a motor vehicle on a road to be lighted unless:
(i) the vehicle is stationary and the light is lighted and used only for the purpose of examining or making adjustments or repairs to a vehicle, and the light from the light is not projected more than 6m, or
(ii) the light is lighted for the temporary purpose of reading any finger or notice board or house number, or
(iii) the vehicle is being driven or used by a police officer in the performance of his or her duty, or
(iv) the vehicle is being used by a governmental or semi-governmental or local government or other authority in connection with its functions, or
(c) any additional headlight permitted to be fitted to a motor vehicle by Schedule 4 to the Road Transport (Vehicle Registration) Regulation 1998 to be lighted when the vehicle is being driven on a length of road for which there is provision for the lighting by means of road lighting or when any approaching vehicle is visible to its driver, or
(c1) any headlight or additional headlight permitted to be fitted to a motor vehicle by clause 85 (6) of Schedule 4 to the Road Transport (Vehicle Registration) Regulation 1998 to flash unless:
(i) the vehicle is being used to respond to an emergency, and
(ii) the vehicle is being driven by a person who is authorised to drive the vehicle and wears a badge or other distinguishing mark indicating that authority, or
(d) any light permitted to be fitted to a motor vehicle or trailer by clause 123 (4)-(7) of Schedule 4 to the Road Transport (Vehicle
Registration) Regulation 1998 to be lighted unless:
(i) the vehicle is standing in a hazardous position or moving in hazardous circumstances, or
(ii) the vehicle is an ambulance, police vehicle, fire fighting vehicle, mines rescue or other rescue vehicle, Red Cross vehicle or another emergency vehicle within the meaning of the Australian Road Rules that is being used for urgent purposes arising from an accident, fire or other emergency, or
(iii) the vehicle is a motor vehicle or trailer that is transporting any loading that exceeds the maximum length, width or height limits set out in Schedule 4 to the Road Transport (Vehicle Registration) Regulation 1998 or any other vehicle used to escort such vehicles and either vehicle is being used for such purposes, or
(iv) the vehicle is being used by the Authority for law enforcement purposes, or
(e) any device referred to in clause 124 (1) or (2) of Schedule 4 to the Road Transport (Vehicle Registration) Regulation 1998 or any hazard warning signal complying with the requirements of the ADR (3rd Ed) relating to the installation of lighting and light-signalling devices to
operate:
(i) on a vehicle (other than a bus) unless the vehicle is standing in a hazardous position or moving in hazardous conditions, or
(ii) on a bus unless the bus is standing in a hazardous position or moving in hazardous conditions or while the bus is stopped to allow a person to alight from or enter it.

Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

Skaboy, I’d love to know how you got out of paying the fine, I think you just got lucky…

Either way – fog lights are great in fog, driving lights are great on roads with no other traffic, but if you’re just using them for the sake of using them in and around town, you’re a tool and deserve to get fined.

deye 2:26 am 02 May 08

or each other 😉

NathanaelB 11:20 pm 01 May 08

… and then you both are blinded, lose sight of the road, go off the road, lose control and both crash into trees. Nice plan!

bigred 10:38 pm 01 May 08

Drive at me in your subaru with idiot lights on and I will reply with my lighting array and blind you. It is quite simple really – mine will burn your retinas.

NathanaelB 9:48 pm 01 May 08

Speaking of fog lights … I saw an ACTION bus this evening on Bunda Street with it’s yellow fog lights turned on. But don’t want to pick on the ACTION bus drivers – got to look after them. Precious few left 🙂

deye 8:42 pm 01 May 08

Spideydog said :

In saying this, in my early auto elec days, we wired driving lights to only operate with high beam, and fog lights only with low ??

In fog you don’t want to use your highbeams as the light just scatters back into your eyes. Low beam doesn’t get the back scatter so you can see further.

MelonHead 12:22 pm 01 May 08

Another related point to this thread is the complete lack of Government support for roadworthy vehicles in the ACT. There is NO serious inspection after purchase. That’s it. You can run slicks, no lights, poorly adjusted lights, any amount of rust, frayed seatbelts, dodgy repairs, the lot. No problems. Also, rego seems to be optional too if you read the reports of P plate drivers speeding around the place.

As for ADR’s, forget it. The grey import looks close enough, and our policy makers seem to think that this is good enough.

Now the fine print like the stupid radio advertising on FM radio:

(Said quickly and in monotone) TermsandconditionsapplySeeinstorefordetailsACTpermitnumberTP1234AuthorisedbyJ.SmithSydneyAllopinionsexpressedarethatofthe writerandnotindicativeofmuchreally.

You can see how I find the trailer to radio ads just ridiculous. I recently clocked six in a row while listening to one of Sydney’s highest rating stations. I eventually found the tuner and moved on.

ant 11:22 am 01 May 08

Yeah, in order to miss the mobile car park around the airport, and again at the Rusell/Kings Ave roundabout, you either have to come through around 7am, or after 9am. So I alternate. Works pretty well. but today I doubled back on the Oaks Estate Road and onto Canberra Ave, which was busy, but moving well. The cars were stationary up on that hill, not moving an inch.

NathanaelB 11:00 am 01 May 08

Running late for work ant? 🙂 I house-sat out at Queanbeyan for a week a few weeks back … and I’ll never complain about the Gungahlin->City commute again.

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