KooGa to kit out the Brumbies

johnboy 5 October 2009 42

The Brumbies have announced that they (and their fans) are going to be kitted out by the up and coming KooGa from next year.

Any sports apparel experts with opinions on KooGa out there?


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MrMagoo MrMagoo 11:07 am 16 Oct 09

vg said :

‘The club’ does not fund junior and senior comps. The juniors is run by a little mob called the ACTJRU and the seniors the ACTRU. Both existed for decades pre Brumbies. The Brumbies inject some donations, but they don’t bankroll the competitions.

ACTRU and ACTJRU are largely unaffected by the Brumbies

x 2 for the GG comment by EIAQJOS as well. I assume 2604 is your real name

Actually the the franchise agreement for the Brumbies is signed by the ACT Rugby union, hence why the ACT Coact of arms appears on the jersey.

MrMagoo MrMagoo 11:03 am 16 Oct 09

vg said :

H1NG0 said :

Then why drop the ACT from the name?

In case you haven’t noticed, they aren’t knows as the NSW Waratahs any more either

Um yes they are, they are called the NSBC NSW Warathas

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot 9:41 pm 08 Oct 09

Neither Greg Growden or the SMH are highly respected.

As for my username – I don’t know what that has to do with this discussion but it’s one of the many fine tunes penned by the immortal Charles Gocher.

vg vg 9:37 pm 08 Oct 09

‘The club’ does not fund junior and senior comps. The juniors is run by a little mob called the ACTJRU and the seniors the ACTRU. Both existed for decades pre Brumbies. The Brumbies inject some donations, but they don’t bankroll the competitions.

ACTRU and ACTJRU are largely unaffected by the Brumbies

x 2 for the GG comment by EIAQJOS as well. I assume 2604 is your real name

2604 2604 7:11 pm 08 Oct 09

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

2604 said :

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

The Brumbies’ would’ve been fine if they hadn’t of received the $700K.

However, all of their local junior development programs would probably have been scrapped as that’s where the money was going.

In other words, when the money starts to run out, it’s the junior development programs that are the first to go, and not the players’ salaries, admin, or advertising.

Nice stuff.

No, the players salaries are not affected as they come from broadcasting deals via the ARU.

And that money cannot be used for other purposes.

My understanding is that players are paid a base salary by the ARU which is topped up by clubs. Regardless, the point still stands if you take player salaries out of it – the club has a number of expenses (paying training and admin staff, advertising & promotions, as well as funding local junior and senior comps) and when revenue drops obviously the first one to go is its support for local junior and senior comps.

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

You’re not SMH rugby columnist Greg Growden by any chance?

He loves to cause a stir without the facts.

Right. Which is why he writes a column on rugby union for a respected newspaper, while you spend your time on the RiotACT posting under one of the crappiest user names of all time.

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot 11:26 pm 07 Oct 09

2604 said :

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

The Brumbies’ would’ve been fine if they hadn’t of received the $700K.

However, all of their local junior development programs would probably have been scrapped as that’s where the money was going.

In other words, when the money starts to run out, it’s the junior development programs that are the first to go, and not the players’ salaries, admin, or advertising.

Nice stuff.

No, the players salaries are not affected as they come from broadcasting deals via the ARU.

And that money cannot be used for other purposes.

You’re not SMH rugby columnist Greg Growden by any chance?

He loves to cause a stir without the facts.

vg vg 10:43 pm 07 Oct 09

2604 said :

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

The Brumbies’ would’ve been fine if they hadn’t of received the $700K.

However, all of their local junior development programs would probably have been scrapped as that’s where the money was going.

In other words, when the money starts to run out, it’s the junior development programs that are the first to go, and not the players’ salaries, admin, or advertising.

Nice stuff.

You don’t know much about the business of professional sport and who exactly runs junior rugby, do you

2604 2604 7:02 pm 07 Oct 09

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

The Brumbies’ would’ve been fine if they hadn’t of received the $700K.

However, all of their local junior development programs would probably have been scrapped as that’s where the money was going.

In other words, when the money starts to run out, it’s the junior development programs that are the first to go, and not the players’ salaries, admin, or advertising.

Nice stuff.

vg vg 4:43 pm 07 Oct 09

H1NG0 said :

Then why drop the ACT from the name?

In case you haven’t noticed, they aren’t knows as the NSW Waratahs any more either

vg vg 4:41 pm 07 Oct 09

johnboy said :

Considering the Olympics converted NSW from the economic powerhouse of the nation to a ruined basket case you might want to choose your examples more carefully.

The economic case for subsidy of professional sport is pretty unconvincing.

It wasn’t the Olympics that did that, it was and still is the incompetent morons who run the place

ahappychappy ahappychappy 1:53 pm 07 Oct 09

Growling Ferret said :

The two Swans Premiership games each year generally draw crowds of over 10,000, with FTA TV live against the gate. If TV was not live against the gate and on a half hour delay as it is in EVERY other market nationwide, I would assume the crowds would grow to capacity.

The two pre-season games generally draw small crowds but this is the case with all AFL pre-season matches. Part of the ACT Govt deal also sees the participating clubs perform school camps with high profile players leading up to each match.

Back to the Brumbies – The $700k was on top of the subsidies that the ACT Govt already give them with Griffith Oval, subsidised used of Bruce Stadium and general sponsorship from Govt entities ACTEWAGL and (previously) Rhodium disguised as corporate hospitality.

I agree wtih 2604 – the imported players that now make up the Brumbies should learn to live within their means. As an aside, how many of the current best 15 are Canberra born and bred players? The days of Gregan, Roff, Harrison, Kafer as locals are long gone…

Sorry Growling,

I wasn’t aware the crowds for the actual Sydney games were so high, even still the Brumbers were hitting the 14,000+ averages over the course of this year. Maybe there has been more of a shift than I thought (the joys of un-educated rabble/guessing).

I’m still all for the Local Government supporting local sport, I can assume the need for the extra money would also stem from the higher salaries within the Super14 system? I understand the need for players to live within their means, but surely we wouldn’t want the problems the NRL is having? I mean, the overseas rugby clubs aren’t specifically targeting our well payed rugby players are they?

Yes, the squad does have more “imported” talent from other Super14 clubs than it used to, but we’ve still got one of the best junior development systems in the country. It isn’t hard to see just how popular the lower grade rugby comps are…

I suppose at the end of the day it’s each to their own? Sure, the local government is spending more money on a local team than the others. But all that extra money being spent is staying here with players and the club/it’s sponsers, not going to Sydney or anywhere else for that matter.

MrMagoo MrMagoo 1:29 pm 07 Oct 09

I’m still of the opinion that the absolute best Rugby gear is made by Canterbury. My jersey that is Cannterbury made still looks immaculate after numerous washes and is good quality hard wearing gear. All these flash in the pan suppliers come and go but the quality still remains with tried and tested manufacturers.

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot 11:56 am 07 Oct 09

justbands said :

> how many of the current best 15 are Canberra born and bred players?

Giteau, Huia Edmonds, Lealiifano & Toomua are ones I know are local…I’m sure there are others.

Toomua is from Queensland.

Lealiifaano is from Victoria.

Ben Alexander is not originally from Canberra but studied at UC and played for Uni-Norths at Colt level.

Tyrone Smith went to St Edmunds.

Locals would include Giteau, Kimlin, Vanderglas, Edmonds, and Shepherdson.

There are many more in the Brumbies academy.

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot 11:31 am 07 Oct 09

The Brumbies’ would’ve been fine if they hadn’t of received the $700K.

However, all of their local junior development programs would probably have been scrapped as that’s where the money was going.

justbands justbands 11:15 am 07 Oct 09

> how many of the current best 15 are Canberra born and bred players?

Giteau, Huia Edmonds, Lealiifano & Toomua are ones I know are local…I’m sure there are others.

Growling Ferret Growling Ferret 10:40 am 07 Oct 09

But let me get this correct – You would rather spend $500k on some out of state AFL teams that are:-
a) hardly supported by Canberra to play all of two games a year;
b) only draw small crowds as they are competing with an NRL/Super 14 dominated Canberra market – even having said this, look at how many people actually go to the Raiders’ homegames… (that are actually Canberra supporters at least).

But hey, spending 700k to bail out our local team, who have enjoyed relative success and decent crowds (although not as large as they used to be) does seem rather pointless when we compare it with your example.

The two Swans Premiership games each year generally draw crowds of over 10,000, with FTA TV live against the gate. If TV was not live against the gate and on a half hour delay as it is in EVERY other market nationwide, I would assume the crowds would grow to capacity.

The two pre-season games generally draw small crowds but this is the case with all AFL pre-season matches. Part of the ACT Govt deal also sees the participating clubs perform school camps with high profile players leading up to each match.

Back to the Brumbies – The $700k was on top of the subsidies that the ACT Govt already give them with Griffith Oval, subsidised used of Bruce Stadium and general sponsorship from Govt entities ACTEWAGL and (previously) Rhodium disguised as corporate hospitality.

I agree wtih 2604 – the imported players that now make up the Brumbies should learn to live within their means. As an aside, how many of the current best 15 are Canberra born and bred players? The days of Gregan, Roff, Harrison, Kafer as locals are long gone…

2604 2604 6:36 pm 06 Oct 09

emd said :

If we didn’t have the Brumbies, there would only be the Raiders for Canberra boys to support – and I don’t fancy my son idolising rugby league players.

So what you’re saying is that the Brumbies should exist so that your son can be protected from the bad influence of league players. Isn’t that your job? I somehow doubt that every child who attends a league game will be inspired by what he/she sees on the field to turn into a Todd Carney-style wild child.

Also, have you actually met, or can you even name any current Raiders players? Here’s a hint – Todd Carney and Mal Meninga aren’t among them. Alan Tongue, Dave Shillington, Bronson Harrison and Josh Miller, for example, are all true gentlemen and people that I’d be happy for my kids to look up to.

I also love how any criticism of the ACT Government’s decision to bail out the Brumbies somehow turns into a discussion about how the Raiders put fewer bums on seats than the Brumbies. All those extra ticket sales obviously didn’t stop the Brumbies from going broke, did they? I’d be livid if I paid $245 for seven games of footy and then still had to have my tax $$$ bailing out the same team. Somehow the Raiders can offer their members 12 games for $30 less and still survive on a much smaller subsidy from the gov’t. The Brumbies should learn to live within their means.

frontrow frontrow 12:25 pm 06 Oct 09

I have nothing new to add to this particular topic but I did snort coffee through my nose when mred was embarassed by quoting The Age but didn’t bat an eyelid about the fact that it came via the IPA.

H1NG0 H1NG0 12:15 pm 06 Oct 09

Then why drop the ACT from the name?

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot 12:03 pm 06 Oct 09

H1NG0 said :

The CA Brumbies are such a great icon for Canberra. So much that they dropped this region from their name. At least the Canberra Raiders recognise their home.

Thry’ve got the ACT coat of arms on their jersey.

No other Australian team in the Super 14 feature their state emblem on their uniform.

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