Lack of cafes on Canberra lakes

goog 17 April 2012 29

Why are there so few cafes and restaurents on Canberra lakes ?

After walking around Lake Tuggeranong the other day, my wife and I decided to have a coffee on the “cafe strip” outsde the Hyperdome. As we sat there sipping our coffee listening to deafening buses and trucks roar by billowing out goodness knows what from their exhausts, I could not wonder why the Hyperdome along with some bars/cafes/ restaurents could not have been built on the lake so we could enjoy the wiews and peace it offers. I just don’t get it.

While I’m on the subject, the same can be said of Civic and Belconnen. Could you imagine how lovely and vibrant our town centres would be if somene with a bit of common sense was in control of town planning?

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marcothepolopony marcothepolopony 9:33 am 18 Apr 12

Try McDonalds cafe by the lake.
Quiet and peaceful with nice northerly views of the lake.
Coffee is very good too.

threepaws threepaws 11:36 pm 17 Apr 12

notdingers said :

The Jetty Cafe might be good.

Closed Sundays which sucks but it looks promising.

Don’t bother going on a Monday either. Even though they are open, this is the day they do their shopping for the rest of the week and thus, can’t actually serve you anything. Not even a milkshake apparently!

Terrible. Don’t bother.

Lousy location, lousy service, lousy set up.

WVCC WVCC 10:36 pm 17 Apr 12

Pandy said :

Present community councils and do gooders in the 60s were dead set against it.

Nothing to with the Community councils on this. The planning of the city was done before many community councils were formed.
We would just love to have some sort of water feature in Woden (other than the concrete drain and Eddison park pond). Wetland ponds would be nice then you can have your cafe’s. No problem with us. You need to asked the ACT Gov. or LDA to improve the situation

gazket gazket 10:25 pm 17 Apr 12

carry a thermos

FioBla FioBla 9:52 pm 17 Apr 12

When I first arrived in Canberra, I thought that the tip of Black Mountain Peninsular would be a nice place to have a restaurant. The view is pretty spectacular (not sure about night time). A bicycle path, and Lady Denman Drive pass by it, and there could be space for cars. Places like Hobart are pretty cold, but there are enclosed waterfront restaurants at Mures & close by (-42.88236, 147.33400). So customers can eat inside or outside depending on weather. Of course that’s at the mouth of the Derwent River & the place has ships docked, so there’s fish.

Launceston has a smaller Tamar River, but there’s a waterfront restaurant and apartments there as well. It’s also enclosed, with doors that open during the warmer months. (-41.432443, 147.132857) There are a few places to eat at either site, and neither are too upmarket. I’ve seen a restaurant at LBG—Waters Edge—which looks a bit posh from the outside.

I’m guessing that Kingston will have some waterfront cafes, given the apartments close by.

Of the sites mentioned elsewhere, I’ve been to Emu Banks, which also looked like a nice location for restaurants. Tend to agree about Tuggeranong.

Pandy Pandy 8:19 pm 17 Apr 12

Present community councils and do gooders in the 60s were dead set against it.

pink little birdie pink little birdie 8:12 pm 17 Apr 12

The Algae starts around late November and stays until March in Lake Tuggeranong

pink little birdie pink little birdie 8:12 pm 17 Apr 12

also the amount of algae in lake Tuggeranong makes it stinky. near the town centre end. I’m 100% positive I won’t be eating with the smell of blue green algae penetrating any eating areas next to the lake.

Watson Watson 7:42 pm 17 Apr 12

schmeah said :

You’ve clearly never spent time down at the lake in the winter time. Sure, it’s not Chicago but when it’s relatively icy and windy for 6 months of the year who wants to sit near the stinking lakes sipping coffee .. go for a run, yes, sit on my backside .. sadly no.

Well keep running then. I’ll take your sheltered spot by the outdoor heater.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 7:06 pm 17 Apr 12

oops, I forgot that all cafes around lakes are legally required to have only three walls, and that outdoor eating and drinking in Canberra has never existed.

No doubt the fact that Canberra has a winter precludes there ever being a cafe in Canberra, let alone one by a lake.

Bramina Bramina 6:48 pm 17 Apr 12

Lake G and Lake T both have Maccas Restaurants on their shores.

Well the Lake G Maccas is a bit off to one side but it compensates by having HJ’s.

Martlark Martlark 5:08 pm 17 Apr 12

You can actually sit by Lake Ginnenderra and have a coffee, tapas, beer, pizza or cocktail by frequenting Ha Ha bar, the Light House, Bella Vista or one of the noodle bars.

schmeah schmeah 4:58 pm 17 Apr 12

You’ve clearly never spent time down at the lake in the winter time. Sure, it’s not Chicago but when it’s relatively icy and windy for 6 months of the year who wants to sit near the stinking lakes sipping coffee .. go for a run, yes, sit on my backside .. sadly no.

GardeningGirl GardeningGirl 4:56 pm 17 Apr 12

I never understood why the Hyperdome was built further back and the college was built right on the lake. If you’ve been shopping and decide to stop for lunch or coffee the choices are the food court or the road, or the fast food franchises down by the lake which means either walking through that strange deserted gazebo alley or driving. There’s quite a variety of food outlets when you think about it, but none of them are really well located to both take advantage of a scenic indoor/outdoor location and be convenient for shoppers and visitors to the area.

watto23 watto23 4:53 pm 17 Apr 12

I’ve always wondered why this is not the case as well.

Plenty of of nice quiet spots for cafes around the lake, if the success of the rather slow to deliver brodburger is possible then I think any cafe by the lake would have a good chance of doing well. Even in winter people walk around the lake.

harryhaller harryhaller 4:50 pm 17 Apr 12

ignatieff said :

Cafes and restaurants need a close resident population to sustain them. With Belconnen and Tuggeranong, it is poor town planning. Although Belconnen seems to be getting better at this.

I beg to differ. The cafes in the national library and galleries are a perfect counterexample. On the weekend they are bursting with people, not all visitors of the institutions that host them, especially in case of the library.

Also, if you look at most European countries, in comparison, you would notice how the lakes are always host to cafes and restaurants, even if the cities are far away (say 20km and more); despite the distances, people like to travel and enjoy their meals and coffees in the proximity of nature, away from the fumes, and near water. I see no reason why the same wouldn’t be true in Canberra.

And like I said, go to the national library on a sunny day and look at the line up at the counter, if you don’t believe me.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 4:38 pm 17 Apr 12

Keijidosha said :

There are two main reasons we don’t have cafes around our lakes.
1) Bitter Canberra winters

You should venture beyond the 40? parallels sometime.

notdingers notdingers 4:21 pm 17 Apr 12

The Jetty Cafe might be good.

Closed Sundays which sucks but it looks promising.

tnpf tnpf 4:12 pm 17 Apr 12

enrique said :

ignatieff said :

Cafes and restaurants need a close resident population to sustain them. … & …poor town planning.

Hit the nail on the head with those two.

The old codgers that implemented the plans probably had some grandiose idea that a capital city should be all avenues, tall orderly trees and picturesque lakes that people looked from afar and visiting foreign dignitaries could marvel at from their chauffeur driven cars. They were probably trying to mimic other major foreign capitals and went a little OTT.

Letting the real citizens get up and close and build actual useful urban infrastructure around those pretty areas would detract from their beauty – yuck – who wants to show off our actual people enjoying their own town to other countries?!

Actually its purely economic. The Lake is too far for consumers from the hyperdome. There’s more than enough of a population to support a mega shopping mall. The Tuggeranong foreshore is actually quite stocked with retail opportunities and was redeveloped/ landscaped extensively in the late 90’s. If you don’t consider a college, a public library an arts centre and numerous park and recreation spaces enough “good infrastructure” then I’m not sure what you’re after. The foreshore unfortunately hasn’t taken off and has deteriorated significantly for the reason above – the hyperdome.

Keijidosha Keijidosha 4:08 pm 17 Apr 12

There are two main reasons we don’t have cafes around our lakes.
1) Bitter Canberra winters
2) Incompetent town planners/government

The latter point could not be more evident when you look at Emu Bank in Belconnen. Someone planned and built a lovely pedestrian boulevard alongside the lake – which leads from nowhere to nowhere, and the buildings that face it have little/no pedestrian access. The resulting lack of foot traffic renders a lot of retail space useless, and therefore permanently vacant.

A far better idea would have been to build a pedestrian boulevard alongside the lake, with a single lane shared road and kerbside parking between it and any buildings. This would promote traffic (especially in the colder months) past lakeside retail businesses.

At the moment you can drive along Emu Bank without a clue what might be alongside the lake.

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