Light rail for Queanbeyan? A lot of you are already on board (but don't hold your breath)

Craig Cotterill I look to the positive rather than the negative. That means the inmates in the highest per capita grossing territory despite producing nothing but porn and outcome reports are trapped within its boundaries. And the really interesting piece in this? They take pride in their concentration camp and will do anything to protect it. A prison designed and built by the prisoners. Buy land for warehousing at its borders. Electric Comcars and pantecs can take it from there. Still, a bloody expensive prison all the same.

Craig Cotterill Only new registrations will be banned. But there will be very few petrol cars made then anyway, with many companies stopping in the next few years.

Robyn Holder I’ve heard that about belconnen

Gerry Satrapa 😏not sure whether to laugh or pretend I don’t get it.

It is, but it would be political suicide it was done before the north/south route was completed.

Robyn Holder Also it’s much easy and makes much more sense than Woden first, but making sense rarely comes into decision making.

Chris Olsen I think that was to placate the prople who didn’t want trams or didn’t want it starting in Gungahlin.

Robyn Holder and/or Tuggeranong.

No extensions of light rail are necessary. Bus rapid transport can do the job at lower cost and greater flexibility

Michael Quirk BRT cost less upfront then LRT But BRT cost more in the long run compared to LRT and since Canberra already has LRT it makes more sence to expand that rather then Introduce BRT

Dylon Brown this maybe the case but the government has not done the comparison to establish what is the better outcome. Minimal transparency or accountability.Give the shortage and hence high cost of skilled labour, increased working from home the government has ample time to commission an independent analysis.The Productivity Commission,IA and the ACT Auditor General all found light rail is not a good use of public funds.There are currently unmet needs in health, housing, education and city maintenance that need to be met perform before even considering the extension of light rail

Peter Wyatt hard enough getting different states to agree to cooperate on anything when they’re part of the same party.

Peter Wyatt different state/territory. But QCty buses do come into Canberra

David Newman Canberra should have had mlb set up our transport system. MLB transport is so easy to use.

David Newman workers train between Goulburn and canberra perhaps,but I suppose a coach is a lot quicker

David Newman let’s get the Woden link finished first

Faye, I’m not proposing one line ahead of another but just asking a simple question that would simplify integrating Queanbeyan if it’s ever considered

Sher Bee so is the Canberra one.

David Newman maybe the track information is available on a Tram/train site

Robyn Holder I don’t know, sorry

Faye Schilling the current bus service is faster than the planned tram. Barr should of improved our bus system instead of making it worse. He introduced the tram to one location and changed bus services for all of Canberra, which doesn’t make sense.

Sher Bee, good idea. I just checked and the Canberra light rail is standard gauge (1.435m), like NSW trains, so that’s a good thing. I guess all they’d need is to extend the line to Kingston and join the train there after they’ve run catenary lines to Queanbeyan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_rail_in_Canberra

David Newman awesome, now we need it to go to Queanbeyan via the airport 😁

David Newman Yes, it’s the same gauge. Standard 1435 mm. So yes, while the ACT Government will need to prioritise extending the network to all town centres and other key areas within the city, it’s not out of the question to eventually extend the network outside the ACT.

David Newman if the VFT went from Brisbane to Sydney to Queanbeyan then to Melbourne and return – the light rail through to Queanbeyan station might be good as a quick link – but yes – there would be issues with that – but have to start thinking sooner or later 🙏

Christine Stevens not quite correct. Heavy rail has a sloped surface towards the centre of the track. This works in conjunction with the sloped profile of the wheel edge to keep the heavy rail engines and wagons/carriages on the track and tracking properly for corners etc at high speed. Heavy rail is also, as the name implies, built to much higher strength for weight bearing.

Light rail has a basically flat top as this allows pedestrians, prams, cyclists etc to cross the track when it’s in a public area with less risk of falling due to the changed slope of the rail. The wheels have a flatter profile contacting the rails and there is more reliance on the flanges on the side of the wheels to keep the light rail vehicle inside the rail alignment. The rail used is made to a lower weight bearing capacity than heavy rail.

The light rail carriages supplied to Sydney were delivered via the RoRo facilities at Port Kembla and were trucked to the Randwick depot as it was not possible to transport them on the heavy rail due to the incompatibility of the rail and wheel profiles.

Craig Keller Interesting. so is David incorrect about the Melbourne trams?

Sher Bee They certainly know how to run a system well, been doing it long enough.

Box hill route 109 to Port Melbourne.