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More stupid undergraduate degrees from our universities

By johnboy 9 January 2009 59

The Canberra Times has a piece on moves by ANU and UC to offer ever more specialised “degrees” to students fresh out of year 12.

ANU’s proudly touting a “Bachelor of Genetics” for future paternity testers to spend three years working towards. Meanwhile UC is promising a “Bachelor of Urban and Regional Planning” as well as “Bachelor of Cultural Heritage”.

Because what 18 year olds need is to be pigeon-holed.

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astrojax 12:51 pm 10 Jan 09

(hint, it’s not ec or acc)

is it ick? ock? ahh, *uck!

i’d rekkun it’s arts – polsci (as opposed to the non-dfat required ‘polski’) though the ubiquitous ‘international relations’ would go close. what do they really study under this nebulous description?? can anyone help a poor un-knowing astro? and if so many people around the globe study it, why are the state of international relations so f***ing parlous???

aelliso 2:33 am 10 Jan 09

I have a BA in Geography with an AOS in world cultures and Geographic Information Systems from a descent uni in the US and I am about to begin a masters in Urban planning. I chose Geography so I wouldn’t pigeon-hole myself and due to a required course I found GIS, loved it, and now work in the field. I would assume GIS is a major component in a planning degree and the GIS field is awesome with plenty of job opportunities in many different industries, so I wouldn’t consider it completely pigeon holing yourself. A degree in urban and regional planning almost seems more like a graduate degree program to me though, since the title is so specific. Also, my wife has a BS in Biology with a minor in Chemistry, loves the genetic stuff, and thinks both genetics and forensics should both be graduate degrees to weed out anyone looking for a career made popular by movies or TV. I still dont consider any of these degrees stupid.

ant 12:50 am 10 Jan 09

I hate to tell you what’s the favoured degree at DFAT… (hint, it’s not ec or acc).

Sorry, couldn’t help but resurrect the old inter faculty rivaly from uni days…

astrojax 11:01 pm 09 Jan 09

aww, vy – that was supposed to be the end of the discussion! tch!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Beserk Keyboard Warrior 10:39 pm 09 Jan 09

The only real degree is an Arts degree.

End of discussion.

54-11 10:06 pm 09 Jan 09

JB, re post #31, I don’t disagree. I challenged the current senior roads planner to stand on the street corner and actually observe the traffic movements with me, counting how many went where. he refused, saying that his engineering degree from an Indian university told him everything he needed to know (true story!).

What we need is locally trained planners who appreciate the best this city has to offer.

One of the most significant problems with ACTPLA at the moment is the CEO (Neil Savery) comes from SA and has never really understood what Canberra is all about (and in my view, has never taken the effort to find out).

Thumper 10:01 pm 09 Jan 09

Berra,

I did a teaching degree and taught for a while. Sadly, it was not for me…

ogrex 9:42 pm 09 Jan 09

PantsMan said :

Know which one I prefered!

I’m guessing the one that actually taught you something, “popular” or not?

PantsMan 7:51 pm 09 Jan 09

When I was at Melbourne Uni they brought in a wounderful idea of providing the units that students wanted. Therefore, every lecturer tried to think of wakky names for things. My worst memory was “History and the Media” which was neither about the representation of history in the media, nor the role of the media in history. It was just junk. A weekly feature was watching the 400 of the 500 students enroled in the unit walk out through the two hour lecture; much to the disgust of the lecturer (his failing to have any sylibis didn’t appear to temper his outrage).

At ANU, they just stood in front of you with disgust that they had to teach undergraduate students, and then just told you that this is what you needed to know. Like it sunshine.

Know which one I prefered!

rosskovic 6:13 pm 09 Jan 09

I don’t get what the problem is??? I think its good that the universities are offering more for the people of this city. Especially with Urban and Regional Planning as their is a massive shortage with Town planners, Urban designers etc all over Australia, its not as if Canberra made the course up, it is also done at Newcastle and Melbourne that I’m certain of and probably a few others. You don’t need to look very far in Canberra to see it has been planned very poorly in the passed, this is a good oppurtunity to create more highly trained professionals in the planning and construction of Canberra.

BerraBoy68 4:37 pm 09 Jan 09

nyssa76 said :

Thumper, I thought about archaeology too :P~

On the other hand, I wouldn’t be far from the Uni Bar either 🙂

A guy who was in my class at school is now an archeologist. Make no bones about it, he really digs . That’s His-story and he’s sticking to it!

But seriously he is. He spend all his time looking at proposed road works to make sure they wont disturb indiginious artifacts.

I’m thinking off either starting another Master’s this year or waiting another year or two and start a PhD. I was looking at retraining and becoming a teacher but my wife say’s w probably can’t afford it just now.

jakez 4:19 pm 09 Jan 09

ogrex said :

FYI: it’s not even necessary to go to the library to get the “taped lectures” these days as they’re available to download on the same day the lecture is given (within a few hours in my experience). Download, play off the computer or upload to your Ipod for easy learning.

I swear, I wouldn’t have gone to any lectures as an undergrad with this setup.

It is also why I went to probably 5 total lectures in my last year of law (note that I did 8 subjects in that period).

ogrex 4:10 pm 09 Jan 09

FYI: it’s not even necessary to go to the library to get the “taped lectures” these days as they’re available to download on the same day the lecture is given (within a few hours in my experience). Download, play off the computer or upload to your Ipod for easy learning.

I swear, I wouldn’t have gone to any lectures as an undergrad with this setup.

peterh 4:04 pm 09 Jan 09

maybe i should consider going to uni, I feel very under qualified right about now.

ant 3:52 pm 09 Jan 09

Two post nutbag… now I’m doing it. 8 hours a WEEK, that’s more like it. 2 lectures and one tute per subject per week was about it, and I often got my lectures on tape in teh Chifley.

ant 3:51 pm 09 Jan 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

As an Engineering undergrad, my Arts friends didn’t seem to be learning to think. Unless of course you call having to turn up for 8 hours per week and do perhaps 4 hours per week of study as learning to think …

If they were turning up for 8 hours a day, that’s a weird arts degree. When I did mine, contact hours were few and far between. You were left to your own devices pretty much, and expected to produce slabs of research on a regular basis which were then torn to bits by ruthless lecturers. Sloppy thinking and sloppy writing and sloppy research were not tolerated, but I did my degree before Dawkins wrecked everything.

nyssa76 3:21 pm 09 Jan 09

Thumper, I thought about archaeology too :P~

On the other hand, I wouldn’t be far from the Uni Bar either 🙂

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