Network Facilities Tax

goose 13 May 2009 31

I just received a letter from Telstra informing me that they are going to start charging me $2.10 per month extra on my home phone line due to the ACT Governement having imposed a Network Facilities Tax back in 2007.

Why hit me for it now?

Thank’s again Stanhopless, as if Tesltra wasn’t bad enough already.

Your opinion is sought on the ACT Government Network Facilities tax that has come back to bite us.

[ED – Get rid of phone line, get wireless dongle from tellco of your choice, install Engin or Skype = Savings]


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Noodles Noodles 2:40 pm 14 May 09

Can anyone suggest solutions for people who are on a sub exchange and therefore can’t get naked ADSL?

I have to stick to ADSL1, as the only providers of ADSL2+ for people on the Gungahlin sub exchange are Telstra and TransACT (who I note pass on a $3.30 Utilities Network Facilities Tax). Wireless broadband is not an option for the reasons provided by eyeLikeCarrots – I game and download.

Or is it just a case of “sucks to be me” and I’ll just have to cop the $2.10 extra charge on a line I never use?

hellspice hellspice 12:56 pm 14 May 09

hel$tra is evil

peterh peterh 12:05 pm 14 May 09

caf said :

…oh and a desktop PC? How 90s 😉

I work with what i have on my desk….

caf caf 11:46 am 14 May 09

…oh and a desktop PC? How 90s 😉

caf caf 11:45 am 14 May 09

The comment was in the context of keeping your VOIP phone up during a powerfail, which wouldn’t need a PC running. If you have a plain old vanilla touchphone plugged into a combined ADSL modem / VOIP box then you wouldn’t need much juice.

peterh peterh 11:29 am 14 May 09

BTW, i am a telstra user for my home phone, my mobiles, my internet. I have never had major outages on my internet, no power fails at the datacentre, and i use engin for my national / international calls.

I sell Telstra business offerings through my clients. The differences between consumer grade and business grade is immense.

oh, and the comment about voting labor in, I didn’t. I didn’t vote for the greens, either. without the democrats, the greens looked like they would side with labor, and i didn’t want to vote for stanhope by proxy.

costs like line rental can be avoided by using a wireless broadband solution, with a voip provider like engin or skype. the latest speeds in wireless are currently at 14mb/s on nextg – i mention nextg because i know it, and signal is very good on a voip connect to the US. The new devices are 21mb/s, but we won’t see that high grade quality from consumer connections as yet.

peterh peterh 11:12 am 14 May 09

caf said :

Even a small UPS would run an ADSL modem for quite a while, if that’s important to you.

only as long as you weren’t running other devices off it caf. 650va would be a better 1/2 hour uptime solution to run the PC, monitor and modem.If you are crunching numbers, the amount of power draw will increase.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 11:05 am 14 May 09

I keep getting calls at home from people at the Telstra business recovery unit, who say they are going to do me a great deal to get me back with Telstra. The problem, I keep telling them, is not the cost, but rather the fact that Telstra is difficult to deal with anytime EXCEPT when dealing with business recovery staff. Frankly, I don’t care if Telstra is a few bucks cheaper. I’ve finally got all my services with providers who do what I tell them, and I have no plans to go near Telstra in the forseeable future.

deezagood deezagood 10:27 am 14 May 09

Agreed… I thought you were extremely polite BTW 🙂

Very Busy Very Busy 10:14 am 14 May 09

And so was mine deezagood, point is he/she went off half cocked and aimed the comment at the wrong poster.

deezagood deezagood 10:05 am 14 May 09

Very Busy said :

trickster said :

Very Busy… Stanhopeless! Pure comic genius, you took his name and put less on the end!? Witty political satire at its best.

trickster, Thanks for the compliment but as much as I’d like to take the credit, if you look really closely you might see quotes at the beginning and end of that line. If you look closer still, and read the original post, you might even see where I got the quote from.

I strongly suspect that Trickster’s comment was dripping in sarcasm (exclamation marks give the game away).

eyeLikeCarrots eyeLikeCarrots 9:53 am 14 May 09

Sleaz274 said :

Phone lines are now a decrepit ancient technology, hell even the romans and greeks if I remember correctly were using copper piping to move water around.

Of course the on passing of a tax on a company for using public land to run its assets and hence gain a profit from to its consumers is up for debate and if enough people start switching on to new technology the faster Telstra will lose out.

We pay amazingly large amounts compared to other countries for telecommunications built on a network sustained and constructed by the tax payer and then farmed out for profit to the Government not the tax payer and now we see again the tax payer collecting the bill of blatant government revenue raising aimed at industry. Eventually people are going to start realising that over 50 cents in every dollar they earn and spend is disappearing down the magic drain whole of government revenue and they are receiving less and less benefit from it.

Romans predominantly used lead and stone for moving water around.
We still use copper for alot of modern house plumbing.

Phone lines are not an ‘decrepit ancient technology’, what connection medium do you think all these naked ADSL connections are using. Having a POTS connection actually connected/configured at the exchange is certainly starting to get a bit Grandpa, but its still main stream.

But yes, I agree, we pay way too much for our telecommunications and Internet.

p1 p1 11:02 pm 13 May 09

Only problem with naked dsl is the same as normal dsl, you need power to make it work.

While this is true, not many people I know don’t have a mobile phone, and none of those have broadband…

caf caf 10:36 pm 13 May 09

Even a small UPS would run an ADSL modem for quite a while, if that’s important to you.

bd84 bd84 9:29 pm 13 May 09

It’s stanhope’s policy of no tax rises. Tell you one thing and then sneak it in another way. I’m surprised that Telstra didn’t pass it on earlier.

Only problem with naked dsl is the same as normal dsl, you need power to make it work. If the power drops you’re stuffed. If you had a medical condition you’d probably want a good backup plan.

Very Busy Very Busy 8:12 pm 13 May 09

trickster said :

Very Busy… Stanhopeless! Pure comic genius, you took his name and put less on the end!? Witty political satire at its best.

trickster, Thanks for the compliment but as much as I’d like to take the credit, if you look really closely you might see quotes at the beginning and end of that line. If you look closer still, and read the original post, you might even see where I got the quote from.

Sleaz274 Sleaz274 7:14 pm 13 May 09

Phone lines are now a decrepit ancient technology, hell even the romans and greeks if I remember correctly were using copper piping to move water around.

Of course the on passing of a tax on a company for using public land to run its assets and hence gain a profit from to its consumers is up for debate and if enough people start switching on to new technology the faster Telstra will lose out.

We pay amazingly large amounts compared to other countries for telecommunications built on a network sustained and constructed by the tax payer and then farmed out for profit to the Government not the tax payer and now we see again the tax payer collecting the bill of blatant government revenue raising aimed at industry. Eventually people are going to start realising that over 50 cents in every dollar they earn and spend is disappearing down the magic drain whole of government revenue and they are receiving less and less benefit from it.

trickster trickster 6:52 pm 13 May 09

Very Busy… Stanhopeless! Pure comic genius, you took his name and put less on the end!? Witty political satire at its best.

deezagood deezagood 6:05 pm 13 May 09

Spoono – frankly, the thought of NEVER dealing with Telstra again brings a huge smile to my face. No more screwed up bills, no more voice prompted ‘customer service’ (or alternately, frustrating calls to people from India), no more charges on a home-line that I rarely use.

Are you a Canberran? I know lots of interstate folks who rave about iiNet, but I am glad to hear positive reports from a local. I calculate that I’ll save at least $80.00 a month by making the switch.

Spoono Spoono 5:56 pm 13 May 09

I ditched Telstra for iiNet naked adsl about a year ago, haven’t looked back. All our phone calls are free except mobile calls (30c/min). The download/upload quota isn’t as good as my old normal ADSL plan but no real dramas. I save about $40-50 a month I reckon from the old line rental + phone bill + ADSL and the main thing is I have no dealings with Telstra (or Optus).

I really can’t think of a good reason why anyone wouldn’t ditch the fixed line and get naked ADSL and VOIP.

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