10 July 2013

New Car Stolen - Parliamentary Triangle - Sophisticated Criminals?

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2012 Nissan X-trail (GOLD), rego NSW JEN-691 stolen from National Library car park (closest to Treasury Building) yesterday (Tuesday, 9 July 2013), between 1.15pm and 4.00pm. Distinctive blue child seat in rear (ugly 90s style covering)….

Theft is very concerning as new cars, one would assume, are difficult to steal? Anyone else had a similar newish car stolen in Canberra?

If anyone sees this car dumped around the suburbs, I would be most grateful for a notification or referral to ACT Policing.

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fritzmacgritz said :

Security staff of the NLA claim that the carpark is the responsibility of the National Capital Authority, and as such, does not patrol the area, nor do they see it part of their responsibility to intervene with any criminal activity outside of the NLA building. This is unlike Treasury security, which does patrol nearby car parks – I give my compliments and acknowledge their foresight.

I was informed by security that on one recent day, 36 break-ins near the NLA were reported. Also, cars have been stolen from the car park on a weekly basis.

Perhaps they should have signs up ‘High theft and break in area not gummints problem’

gazket said :

thieves short circuit the battery, the car thinks it has crashed and unlocks the doors,

Of course the fuel pump shut off then poses a problem, but that would certainly be a good way to nick airbags (which they do) and anything else bolted to the car. Even bolting stuff down doesn’t help.

Unfortunately if late model cars are found they’re usually found in an interstate garage in various states of being stripped down and harvested for parts.

beardedclam said :

fritzmacgritz said :

Some developments…

Vehicle colour is SILVER – Not GOLD

There is no CCTV footage of the carpark in question – cameras only point into the NLA entrance

Some comments are gratuitous and idle muckraking – this is not an insurance scam – so new car owners beware of this apparent high tech theft. Doubtful this is also a joy ride – who steals a diesel powered wagon for fun? Suspected slice and dice for parts.

Perhaps the best advice so far to the general community is that a thief is hiding in the car park using a code duplicator…

Security staff of the NLA claim that the carpark is the responsibility of the National Capital Authority, and as such, does not patrol the area, nor do they see it part of their responsibility to intervene with any criminal activity outside of the NLA building. This is unlike Treasury security, which does patrol nearby car parks – I give my compliments and acknowledge their foresight.

I was informed by security that on one recent day, 36 break-ins near the NLA were reported. Also, cars have been stolen from the car park on a weekly basis.

who doesnt know the colour of their own car?

pretty sure you just trying to get people out of the area.

fritzmacgritz said :

Some developments…

Vehicle colour is SILVER – Not GOLD

There is no CCTV footage of the carpark in question – cameras only point into the NLA entrance

Some comments are gratuitous and idle muckraking – this is not an insurance scam – so new car owners beware of this apparent high tech theft. Doubtful this is also a joy ride – who steals a diesel powered wagon for fun? Suspected slice and dice for parts.

Perhaps the best advice so far to the general community is that a thief is hiding in the car park using a code duplicator…

Security staff of the NLA claim that the carpark is the responsibility of the National Capital Authority, and as such, does not patrol the area, nor do they see it part of their responsibility to intervene with any criminal activity outside of the NLA building. This is unlike Treasury security, which does patrol nearby car parks – I give my compliments and acknowledge their foresight.

I was informed by security that on one recent day, 36 break-ins near the NLA were reported. Also, cars have been stolen from the car park on a weekly basis.

who doesnt know the colour of their own car?

bearlikesbeer11:36 am 12 Jul 13

Last time I looked, Questacon had cameras facing in the direction of the National Library.

fritzmacgritz11:19 am 12 Jul 13

Some developments…

Vehicle colour is SILVER – Not GOLD

There is no CCTV footage of the carpark in question – cameras only point into the NLA entrance

Some comments are gratuitous and idle muckraking – this is not an insurance scam – so new car owners beware of this apparent high tech theft. Doubtful this is also a joy ride – who steals a diesel powered wagon for fun? Suspected slice and dice for parts.

Perhaps the best advice so far to the general community is that a thief is hiding in the car park using a code duplicator…

Security staff of the NLA claim that the carpark is the responsibility of the National Capital Authority, and as such, does not patrol the area, nor do they see it part of their responsibility to intervene with any criminal activity outside of the NLA building. This is unlike Treasury security, which does patrol nearby car parks – I give my compliments and acknowledge their foresight.

I was informed by security that on one recent day, 36 break-ins near the NLA were reported. Also, cars have been stolen from the car park on a weekly basis.

gazket said :

thieves short circuit the battery, the car thinks it has crashed and unlocks the doors,

Really? Even with the key out of the ignition and the doors locked, the car thinks it has been crashed into? Must remember not to leave my car bonnet open so this can’t happen.

I saw busted glass from a break-in or theft in the NLA carpark at about 6pm yesterday. I thought it was pretty surprising inside the triangle, but I never risk leaving anything in my late-model X-Trail anyway.

gazket said :

thieves short circuit the battery, the car thinks it has crashed and unlocks the doors,

This would mean the thieves will have to re-set the radio and if they don’t have the code they will be pissed off.

SheepGroper said :

dungfungus said :

Beamed up by aliens perhaps?

Don’t be daft. How can aliens anally probe a car!

They were following the “X-Trail”

thieves short circuit the battery, the car thinks it has crashed and unlocks the doors,

SheepGroper said :

dungfungus said :

Beamed up by aliens perhaps?

Don’t be daft. How can aliens anally probe a car!

Up the tailpipe, Duh!

But seriously, with all these apparent features that prevent vehicle theft in effect, how do we know that this isnt just some elaborate insurance scam?

#Hypothetical Scenario #1

A 2012 model car which someone may be having trouble paying for and also, it is insured for its current replacement costs through a less than vigilant insurer. Person “loses” car and claims insurance quickly because the Police have investigated.

Or…..

#Hypothetical Scenario #2

The Government’s Education revolution had more of an effect than previously reported and the locals bogan’s are reported as: Havin da mad tek skils now, Broo!!!

thebrownstreak69 said :

tuco said :

thebrownstreak69 said :

bundah said :

Is there not external CCTV at the Nat Lib?

How would a few grainy images of a skinny scumbag wearing a hoody help?

I agree. There’s no point even looking at evidence once you have made your own conclusions about what it shows. Any additional information would just clutter up the place.

So we know who did it and where the car is, yeah…?

1. Hang on, what side are you on now? Cameras ARE some use? Phew!
2. The cameras would have allowed me to say “spotto”. Before the Nissan was stolen. Obviously.
3. *thinks* Must get a smiley face for ironic comments …

dungfungus said :

Beamed up by aliens perhaps?

Don’t be daft. How can aliens anally probe a car!

thebrownstreak6912:31 pm 11 Jul 13

tuco said :

thebrownstreak69 said :

bundah said :

Is there not external CCTV at the Nat Lib?

How would a few grainy images of a skinny scumbag wearing a hoody help?

I agree. There’s no point even looking at evidence once you have made your own conclusions about what it shows. Any additional information would just clutter up the place.

So we know who did it and where the car is, yeah…?

thebrownstreak69 said :

bundah said :

Is there not external CCTV at the Nat Lib?

How would a few grainy images of a skinny scumbag wearing a hoody help?

I agree. There’s no point even looking at evidence once you have made your own conclusions about what it shows. Any additional information would just clutter up the place.

CraigT said :

…the cops told me the scumbags have a device they use that interferes with your electronic key as you try to lock it…

This means the car is unlocked (I always make sure the indicators flash to make sure mine has locked), and makes it very easy to nick anything in the car, but to steal it you will still have to circumvent the immobiliser. Which is difficult to do with factory systems on new cars as it is part of the computer which runs the motor.

RF Jammers are somewhat illegal here, but I can’t imagine it is all that hard to get one into the country (sniffer dogs won’t pick one up, and on an x-ray it is just circuitry), nor would it be that hard to make one. I suppose it is lucky that the sort of people who break into cars to go through ash trays for loose change aren’t really smart.

Scumbags. I’d dread to think how I’d operate without the family vehicle and its associated kid-seats. Best of luck getting it back.

bundah said :

thebrownstreak69 said :

bundah said :

Is there not external CCTV at the Nat Lib?

How would a few grainy images of a skinny scumbag wearing a hoody help?

Elementary brownstreak,firstly it would reveal how it was stolen eg.whether it be towtruck as mentioned in #4 or possibly hoody scum.Secondly,given it was a 2012 X-trail I suspect hoody scum wouldn’t have the nouse nor resources to steal the X-trail without a key.

Therefore while the CCTV is unlikely to have sufficient clarity to identify the thief it would resolve the issue of how it was stolen and potentially give some clues as to who the perpetrator is. 🙂

Beamed up by aliens perhaps?

thebrownstreak69 said :

bundah said :

Is there not external CCTV at the Nat Lib?

How would a few grainy images of a skinny scumbag wearing a hoody help?

Elementary brownstreak,firstly it would reveal how it was stolen eg.whether it be towtruck as mentioned in #4 or possibly hoody scum.Secondly,given it was a 2012 X-trail I suspect hoody scum wouldn’t have the nouse nor resources to steal the X-trail without a key.

Therefore while the CCTV is unlikely to have sufficient clarity to identify the thief it would resolve the issue of how it was stolen and potentially give some clues as to who the perpetrator is. 🙂

liability said :

I should clarify that this was actually at Oaks Estate, so technically across the border.

Obvious Troll is VERY obvious.

I think you will find there is very little car theft in Oaks Estate. Probably because there are no cars worth stealing.

Still ACT though

The Library has CCTV footage of all the carparks at the Library.
Contact Security at:
Phone: 6262 1376
Email: security@nla.gov.au

thebrownstreak698:24 am 11 Jul 13

bundah said :

Is there not external CCTV at the Nat Lib?

How would a few grainy images of a skinny scumbag wearing a hoody help?

FioBla said :

I’m always borrowing things from the library.

Not that particular library, of course.

CraigT said :

Unless the judiciary here lifts its ganme a bit and gaols them all.

As long as they have the visage of the malefactor who purloined the cabriolet.

CraigT said :

…couldn’t keep up with the payments….insurance claim….nothing to see here.

Should have a tracker in it.

The Beamer I keep garaged in London got nicked while I was over there recently – the security company found it same day parked on a crappy scum-infested housing estate a few km away – the cops told me the scumbags have a device they use that interferes with your electronic key as you try to lock it, then they park the nicked car somewhere obvious and then watch it to find out if it’s being tracked. It’s only a matter of time before the well-known worthless Canberra scumbags achieve similar levels of technology. Unless the judiciary here lifts its ganme a bit and gaols them all.

Was that the “beamer” that they used when someone used to say “beam me up Scotty”?

…couldn’t keep up with the payments….insurance claim….nothing to see here.

Should have a tracker in it.

The Beamer I keep garaged in London got nicked while I was over there recently – the security company found it same day parked on a crappy scum-infested housing estate a few km away – the cops told me the scumbags have a device they use that interferes with your electronic key as you try to lock it, then they park the nicked car somewhere obvious and then watch it to find out if it’s being tracked. It’s only a matter of time before the well-known worthless Canberra scumbags achieve similar levels of technology. Unless the judiciary here lifts its ganme a bit and gaols them all.

No more parking in the Parliamentary Triangle.

Is there not external CCTV at the Nat Lib?

liability said :

I should clarify that this was actually at Oaks Estate, so technically across the border.

Technically it’s across the border from NSW.

One way of stealing a new car is to tow it away. I know this happens a reasonable amount in Sydney. Flatbed towtruck pulls up and drags it up onto the flatbed and drives away.

I am aware of at least one incident in Canberra where someone left there car in a street for a couple of weeks while they were interstate and found it gone when they came back. One of the people living in the street said that they saw a tow truck pull up and drag it on to a flat bed and tow it away. After some inquiries it was found that an enterprising thief had called the tow truck and told him that his car had broken down and had the tow truck tow the car to his house. Needless to say, the thief was easily found and prosecuted.

I should clarify that this was actually at Oaks Estate, so technically across the border.

I’m always borrowing things from the library.

Do you still have possession of all the sets of keys? Because while I don’t know about X-Trails, recent model cars are usually pretty hard to steal on account of immobilisers coded into the keys.

Nothings hard to steal unless it’s bolted to the ground.

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