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No Carbon Tax Rally

By dr phil - 19 March 2011 50

This is going to be BIG!

http://www.nocarbontaxrally.com/no_carbon_tax_rally.html

Date
Wednesday 23rd March 2011

Where
On the Lawn Area Out the Front of Parliament House
Capital Hill side.

All you have to do is look on how many bus loads of people are comming from all over Australia. Lets spread the word

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No Carbon Tax Rally
moneypenny2612 7:16 pm 19 Mar 11

Waiting For Godot said :

The reason GetUp! was able to get 8000 people to their rally in Melbourne is simple. They were the usual suspects, the rent-a-crowd professional protesters who can be mobilised by email, phone trees and the lefty grapevine to be on the streets within minutes to stage protests at the drop of a hat. We can safely dismiss their views as being an unrepresentative fringe element not to be taken seriously.

On the other hand, the people attending the No Carbon Tax Rally are ordinary,conservative mainstream family people – the silent majority – who do not usually protest. As Andrew Bolt said during the week, their views are worth three times the views of the leftist, rent-a-crowd professional protesters.

Yeah, yeah, yeah – cos Andrew Bolt isn’t a fantasist. I want proof that thousands are paid specifically to attend Getup protests.

People who receive SMS and email inviting to a protest still make a decision to attend it, in the same way that the ‘ordinary’ folk who attend No Carbon Tax rallies respond to hand delivered mail, the wireless and the telephone (and golly geeze even this new fangled email and internet). It is probably only the geriatric state of the No Tax mob that keeps the attendance numbers down. Or the straitjackets.

As for polling, it is almost inevitable that a poll asking people whether they like a new tax gets negative results. But that doesn’t mean a premium on carbon shouldn’t be done – ordinary folk didn’t much like the GST or tariff reductiion / structural adjustment programs either.

Hosinator 6:46 pm 19 Mar 11

fozzy said :

It seems a bit pointless as no-one is introducing a carbon tax so why protest to stop it? Labour has proposed an emissions trading system with an initial fixed price. So would say this acts like a tax but fundamentally it is not.

Are you deluded or have you been smoking something?

This is a tax. Just because they change the word from tax to pricing doesn’t change the fact that it is a tax.

gasman 6:43 pm 19 Mar 11

I’m not a GetUp member, but I would love to join the counter rally. I am also an ordinary, family, mainstream citizen (to quote Waiting) who would happily pay more for my electricity, gas and petrol, in the knowledge that I and everyone else will end up using less.

Or maybe I’ll join the No Carbon Tax rally as a subversive. I can think of some great placards:

“I’ve never seen a dinosaur, so I don’t care if my children never see a polar bear”

or

“I’m with stupid”

or

“Science is too hard – I’ll stick with religion”

boomacat 6:21 pm 19 Mar 11

Oh goodness, if you have to quote Andrew Bolt to support your arguments you really must be desperate…

Also I understood that the polling on pricing carbon was quite mixed depending on how the question was asked (Newspoll, Morgan, Essential) so it’s very misleading to say “every opinion poll taken so far indicates that the No Carbon Tax Rally is supported by the overwhelming majority of Australians”.

Anyway, back to the locally relevant content, I would be grateful if anyone could post here about planned Canberra counter-rallies.

anticodon 5:32 pm 19 Mar 11

As Andrew Bolt said,

zippyzippy 5:24 pm 19 Mar 11

Tony Abbott will be very proud.

georgesgenitals 5:13 pm 19 Mar 11

The reason why so few people turn up to things like this is that they have jobs, unlike many of the hiipy lefty protesters.

Skidbladnir 5:02 pm 19 Mar 11

An organization which only officially came into existence less than two weeks ago according to ASIC, registered a domain on the day it incorporated, but had made 12 variations to its domain data in that fortnight, is slick enough to have reasonable web design, a business premises in the Sydney CBD, and is in line with Liberal party rhetoric and has sufficient asset backing and logistics ability to bus loads of rent-a-crowd…
But still chalks itself as an underdog as uses the words ‘grassroots’ and ‘concerned taxpayers’…

I love the smell of fresh astroturf.

Chief Ten Beers 4:42 pm 19 Mar 11

fozzy said :

So I suppose on Wednesday, we’ll get to see how many stupid people there are that big carbon has been able to bribe.

Considering China is opening two plants a week (source BBC) and by the year 3030 will output 8 gigatons a year, which is equal to the entire world’s CO2 production today (source wired.com).

So fozzy, can you explain how will Australia’s Carbon Dioxide Tax will save the world and Australia itself from droughts, fires, famine and whatever else is supposedly caused by AGW?

I think it’s quite obvious who the stupid people in all this are.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/latest/8916664/carbon-tax-billions-to-help-poor-nations/

But I guess all is okay though fozzy, turn your lights off for an hour on March 26th and you will help save the world!

RedDogInCan 4:21 pm 19 Mar 11

Interesting how an association that was registered merely 12 days ago and has three members can claim to represent the interest of the community.

Crikey has a bit of an expose of the people behind this particular group.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/03/07/meet-the-brains-behind-the-anti-carbon-tax-rallies/

Waiting For Godot 3:40 pm 19 Mar 11

rebcart said :

“This is going to be big”

Is that ‘big’ in the same way Melbourne last week was big, where you guys had 200 protesters and the pro-carbon-tax counter-protest had 8000?

Bussing people in from other locations for events is a time-honoured tactic of Scientologists, to make people think there are a lot more local members than there really are for PR purposes. I wonder…

I, too, will be looking out for the counter-protests.

I knew that in the city of the Volvo socialists, latte left and Green Canberra Times/ABC true believers we would get a response like this.

The reason GetUp! was able to get 8000 people to their rally in Melbourne is simple. They were the usual suspects, the rent-a-crowd professional protesters who can be mobilised by email, phone trees and the lefty grapevine to be on the streets within minutes to stage protests at the drop of a hat. We can safely dismiss their views as being an unrepresentative fringe element not to be taken seriously.

On the other hand, the people attending the No Carbon Tax Rally are ordinary,conservative mainstream family people – the silent majority – who do not usually protest. As Andrew Bolt said during the week, their views are worth three times the views of the leftist, rent-a-crowd professional protesters.

I’m sure GetUp! will be able to muster many thousands for a counter rally. In fact I’d be surprised if they cant. They’ve already sent out several panic-stricken emails concerned that they are losing the argument and calling for donations and attendees at their rallies supporting the carbon tax.

Just remember, every opinion poll taken so far indicates that the No Carbon Tax Rally is supported by the overwhelming majority of Australians.

fozzy 2:28 pm 19 Mar 11

It seems a bit pointless as no-one is introducing a carbon tax so why protest to stop it? Labour has proposed an emissions trading system with an initial fixed price. So would say this acts like a tax but fundamentally it is not.

So I suppose on Wednesday, we’ll get to see how many stupid people there are that big carbon has been able to bribe.

rebcart 2:06 pm 19 Mar 11

“This is going to be big”

Is that ‘big’ in the same way Melbourne last week was big, where you guys had 200 protesters and the pro-carbon-tax counter-protest had 8000?

Bussing people in from other locations for events is a time-honoured tactic of Scientologists, to make people think there are a lot more local members than there really are for PR purposes. I wonder…

I, too, will be looking out for the counter-protests.

Braddon Boy 1:32 pm 19 Mar 11

…If not, let’s start one.

mr reason 1:11 pm 19 Mar 11

Anybody have any information about planned counter-rallies?

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