North-South Divide, or 10 things I like about...

It’s still a list of claims very specific to Ainslie/inner north though…& as I pointed out, most of them could be made by people in the inner south.

Enjoy the view from the victory dais!

But on the other hand, I lived in Kambah for 11 years and it had a lot going for it too.

I don’t know that I could come up with ten things, but…

Ahhh, the sweet smell of success! Hear that thread people? SUCCESS!

Actually, I’ve just gone back to your original post and must admit (as a Downer lad for about 20/42ths of my existence plus a sprinkling of Braddon and Campbell as well) I’ve got to agree with most of your list!

Overheard said :

rosebud said :

Overheard said :

I think I’m going to start a 25 degrees south-south-west vs 15 degrees north-north-east divide and see how many red-veined proponents it can attract.

I like that! It’s crazy, but it could work, given the right anal participants!

You just reminded me that there exists such a group of potential participants: http://confluence.org/

Strange lot. I have a cousin who is or was into it. Made for an interesting family outing, I suppose. I personally can think of other ways to pass the time that push my buttons more, but who am I to judge? (He asks, careful not to inadvertently quote any random examples.)

Scarily anal!

rosebud said :

Overheard said :

I think I’m going to start a 25 degrees south-south-west vs 15 degrees north-north-east divide and see how many red-veined proponents it can attract.

I like that! It’s crazy, but it could work, given the right anal participants!

You just reminded me that there exists such a group of potential participants: http://confluence.org/

Strange lot. I have a cousin who is or was into it. Made for an interesting family outing, I suppose. I personally can think of other ways to pass the time that push my buttons more, but who am I to judge? (He asks, careful not to inadvertently quote any random examples.)

Overheard said :

I think I’m going to start a 25 degrees south-south-west vs 15 degrees north-north-east divide and see how many red-veined proponents it can attract.

I like that! It’s crazy, but it could work, given the right anal participants!

I think the time is ripe for a good ole civil war!

Actually, the Olé Civil War was the Spanish Civil War, wasn’t it?

I think the time is ripe for a good ole civil war!

Or we could have an Electorate War (aka Uncivil War) and have three warring divisions of the city. That would farnarkle up the north/south debate.

I’ve moved so often that, gun to my head, I wasn’t sure which electorate I’m currently in. Had to go and look it up.

Like where you live – for you rown reasons – as someone elses opinion will always differ.

johnboy said :

Your friend sounds like a fascist.

Sometimes I think the same thing about you johnboy.

Oh FFS, we’re not even 350,000 people. We may be geographically sprawled, but we’re hardly big enough to get all bent out of shape about this north/south cr#p. I was born here and have lived 91.35% of my life here and I’ve never understood why the debate thrives. I’ve lived all over and the only reason I prefer my current inner north haunt is that it’s cheap, it’s central and I get to walk to work.

I think I’m going to start a 25 degrees south-south-west vs 15 degrees north-north-east divide and see how many red-veined proponents it can attract.

Yes Thumper, that was my point.

Half of the things in the original post were advantages of living in *inner* Canberra, not *North* Canberra. I’m not sure someone living in Dunlup is really able to cycle to Civic in 10 minutes, or walk to Dendy, etc. By the same token, someone living in say Yarralumba (southside) has very easy access to these things.

Someone brought this up in another thread, and to my mind, it’s the trump card:

Southside is better because of Summernats not being there.

The sheer concentration of pure bogan (not to mention fooly shickness) at that event is enough to ensure that the average level of bogan is most definitely higher on the north side.

Plus, the southside has a golf driving range with automagical tee-up. Thwock! bzzzzz, clunk. Thwock!

Your friend sounds like a fascist.

I shared this discussion thread with a friend who is currently living in a mining town in rural Turkey, and she was shocked and appalled. But I just think she is jealous because she doesn’t live on the Northside, or even in Canberra (poor thing). And if she did live in Canberra, she’d probably want to live in Red Hill or somewhere equally unjustly thought of as swanky. Here is an excerpt of her email:

“TOOOOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS!!!

Who has time to participate in an online debate over who lives in the better suburb?

Have you thought about vegetable gardening?

All ready done it?

Raising money for starving kids in PNG? I know a good women’s and children’s shelter who would love your help.

Enjoy.”

Clown Killer said :

– The people who work at Kambah Woolworths who providie my kids with a fantastic example of what can happen if you make the wrong choices in life.

I’d second this if my own kids weren’t too busy throwing themselves under other people’s trolleys to take note of the lesson.

For what it’s worth, I love living in the south because of:

– Sunsets over the mountains just by looking out my windows.
– Mt Taylor Nature Reserve outside my back door.
– Only 15 minutes drive to my office in Kingston.
– Rama’s in Pearce.
– Noble Palace in Phillip.
– Mt Stromlo Mountain Bike park.
– Manuka Pool.
– The people who work at Kambah Woolworths who providie my kids with a fantastic example of what can happen if you make the wrong choices in life.
– Wanniassa Supa Barn.
– Acres of playing fields at Mawson and Kambah.

Gungahlin Al said :

And yes I do at present. Can’t be too careful with a $3.9 billion tender…

prior to peter gershon’s report?

that’s a bit brave, isn’t it?

“Gungahlin Al, can you provide the data you’re basing that “more people” comment on. 😛

Al also sounds like he also spends his days proofreading and consulting Commonwealth Style…”

Skid: that would be “can you provide the data *on which* you’re basing that “more people” comment.”
And no I can’t (he says deliberately starting a sentence with And) – was just fishing – got a good nibble too… 🙂

And yes I do at present. Can’t be too careful with a $3.9 billion tender…

Kaleen Village. Kaleen Village.

Kippax Fair!
It’s all waiting there at Kippax Fair!

Warren at the top shop at Charnwood, that is….

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Gungahlin Al, can you provide the data you’re basing that “more people” comment on. 😛

Al also sounds like he also spends his days proofreading and consulting Commonwealth Style…

Southside has its fair share of those too, but we Southsiders know that the neighbour with six Toranas and two kids probably doesn’t care much for talk about the Commonwealth Style version of proofreading when he invites neighbours around for a bbq.

or michael?

dorkus mallorkus said :

peterh said :

I remember that the takeaway was a short walk from Charny high. for more interesting fun, we’d go to the skate bowl on top of the hill, or down past the primary school on our bikes. living near the top shop was fun too.

My dad still uses any possible opportunity to tell us about the guy who used to run that top shop who offloaded all his wine for next to nothing because it was “old stock”.

you mean warren?

peterh said :

I remember that the takeaway was a short walk from Charny high. for more interesting fun, we’d go to the skate bowl on top of the hill, or down past the primary school on our bikes. living near the top shop was fun too.

My dad still uses any possible opportunity to tell us about the guy who used to run that top shop who offloaded all his wine for next to nothing because it was “old stock”.

Northside has more people (Mael notwithstanding) who know that “your” and “you’re” mean two completely different things… 😛

dorkus mallorkus said :

miz said :

And finally, Stanhope lives on the Northside and he’s a drongo.

Pratt lives on the southside. I think we need a tiebreaker.

wayne berry is on the northside….

miz said :

And finally, Stanhope lives on the Northside and he’s a drongo.

Pratt lives on the southside. I think we need a tiebreaker.

sorry, was talking to a mate in qld, he was reminiscing. kambah is the same, but there are more mates from charnwood here now. going to organise a catchup soon for charny boys.

BerraBoy68 said :

tastyjam said :

Drinking a beer in Charnwood doesn’t make me a bogan, that’s like saying anyone with a croissant in manuka is a snob.

LOL. No need to explain. My reading of your earlier post was that you’d been drinking outside the take-away pre-stabbing. I think we’ve all deposited half drink beers somewhere on the way home from an late night binge in our youth (back when binges were more than the now official ‘three drinks’that is). That’s the other thing about Charny shops though, the amount of people I see there drinking beer just wondering around the shops. Strangely enough there was a couple there just yesterday, stubbies in hand, ‘westie’ shirts on wondering past the Liberals election stand outside the IGA.

BTW: the new female Liberal candidate was there – I can’t recall her name but she’s about 6 foot 4. Can’t say I’d vote for her (not that I’m able – I live Southside) but I found her quite cute.

I remember that the takeaway was a short walk from Charny high. for more interesting fun, we’d go to the skate bowl on top of the hill, or down past the primary school on our bikes. living near the top shop was fun too. jumping the fence at csiro and going fishing on one of the dams was good too. (until I got salted by a shottie climbing back over the fence) cops couldn’t stop laughing, they let us go. couldn’t sit down properly for days.

tastyjam said :

Drinking a beer in Charnwood doesn’t make me a bogan, that’s like saying anyone with a croissant in manuka is a snob.

LOL. No need to explain. My reading of your earlier post was that you’d been drinking outside the take-away pre-stabbing. I think we’ve all deposited half drink beers somewhere on the way home from an late night binge in our youth (back when binges were more than the now official ‘three drinks’that is). That’s the other thing about Charny shops though, the amount of people I see there drinking beer just wondering around the shops. Strangely enough there was a couple there just yesterday, stubbies in hand, ‘westie’ shirts on wondering past the Liberals election stand outside the IGA.

BTW: the new female Liberal candidate was there – I can’t recall her name but she’s about 6 foot 4. Can’t say I’d vote for her (not that I’m able – I live Southside) but I found her quite cute.

And finally, Stanhope lives on the Northside and he’s a drongo.

Southside is unreal. I look out of my (govie house) bedroom window onto a wide vista of the Brindabellas. I never have to go to Civic and pay outrageous parking fees (been once only this year, and proud of it). The Hospital is south if we have an emergency. Having Woollies, Coles and Aldi in Tuggeranong makes groceries cheaper, plus there are a couple of thriving local shopping centres nearby with fruit and veg, butcher, PO/newsagency, chemist, excellent takeaway and supermarket, and two other local shops each with an IGA nearby. My local public schools are excellent (downside – ovals are lumpy, unuseable weedfests). There is a great vet at Fadden. I am two mins from a direct bus to work which goes the route I would drive anyway. Belco has a lot of horrid grey cement buildings, while Tuggeranong centre has red-roofed coordinated buildings with pleasing architecture. Don’t care if people don’t come over from the Northside, all the more for us!

North, yes, but which side of Northbourne?

Drinking a beer in Charnwood doesn’t make me a bogan, that’s like saying anyone with a croissant in manuka is a snob.

and yes, mates and i went to charny club that night and i stashed my beer in the soon-to-be crime scene on the way.

I’ve lived both Northside and Southside and loved them both when I was there. Ergo, the best thing about living either the northside or southside must be ‘me’!

I do love the metal sheep at Kambah shops though. I’ve convinced my kids that’s where ‘steel wool’ comes from.

Tastyjam – how the hell does your beer become part of the crime scene at the Charnwood stabbing unless you were drinking it outside charcoal BBQ chook shop one arvo? Don’t look now but if thats what happened, chances are you’re (stage whispers….)a Bogan!

Love it Astrojax. Can we now get started on inappropriately placed appostrophes when indicating a plural ? ie Spa’s and car’s ?

‘s been done to death here already, i think. sooner try to reclaim ‘effect’ and ‘affect’ from [insert expletive here] ‘impact/ing/ed/s’

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr……..

sadly, an enterprise doomed to fail, methinks. 🙁

Man, you should come to Kingston occasionally! Smackies, vandalism, and crime (both violent and petty) in abundance! I also house-sat in Red Hill last year and saw more of the same while walking the dog around the suburb – esp. around the shops.

Southside has its areas, sure. And everywhere is going to have some crime. But it has plenty more smackie free places than northside tends to, in my experience.

I like Weston Creek because some mornings I can wake up and look down on a valley full of fog, or mountains covered with snow.
There are also times when you can look up at Mount Taylor, Arawang, or down towards Gleneagles and can see eagles flying around scouting for food.

The Parkway can put me in Civic, Belconnen, or Tuggeranong in a under ten minutes.

Also, the Irish Club is close.

astrojax said :

Less bogans.

fewer, people. ‘fewer’ whole, single entities, ‘less’ of stuff that comprised of various bits – eg: less flour (you can have an non-determined amount and it will still be ‘flour’); ‘fewer’ coins (you can only have ‘a’ coin or no coin, not half a coin. if it isn’t a whole coin it isn’t a coin) or ‘fewer’ occasions (each time something happens, it happens ‘a’ time, not ‘half happening’) it’s easy…

while we’d all like to see bogans dismembered, they’d still be ‘a’ bogan with a limb missing. we want fewer, not less.

carry on…

Love it Astrojax. Can we now get started on inappropriately placed appostrophes when indicating a plural ? ie Spa’s and car’s ?

South side is a few degrees warmer, on average, than north side, except if you’re out and about in which case you’ll cop the wind.
My buddy in Stab Central (charny) also says that except for the recent stabbing, (to which my beer actually became part of the crime scene… *tugs collar*), he hasn’t heard of/seen a single incident which sets charny apart.

Northside has “Bega Flats”, the big complex opposite city centre. Southside has the equivalent, it’s called Stuart Flats in Manuka. Dunno what intelligent individual made the decision to put Stuart Flats in prime proximity to a McDonalds and (until recently) 24 hour coles. I lived in Stuart Flats for 6 months and it’s no tea party. So no points for either side on that one.

Personally I like Woden mall better than Civic though. Civic’s confusing… or is it my tiny Far South Coast NSW grown brain…

Less bogans.

fewer, people. ‘fewer’ whole, single entities, ‘less’ of stuff that comprised of various bits – eg: less flour (you can have an non-determined amount and it will still be ‘flour’); ‘fewer’ coins (you can only have ‘a’ coin or no coin, not half a coin. if it isn’t a whole coin it isn’t a coin) or ‘fewer’ occasions (each time something happens, it happens ‘a’ time, not ‘half happening’) it’s easy…

while we’d all like to see bogans dismembered, they’d still be ‘a’ bogan with a limb missing. we want fewer, not less.

carry on…

Both sides have bogans and yuppies, well outnumbered by normal people. Both sides have great restaurants, tourist attractions, and multiple cinemas. Both sides are surrounded by incredible countryside. Both sides have leafy suburbs blessed with wonderful birdlife, and both sides have sheep sculptures.

Both sides have ‘supporters’ who think support is better performed by insulting the other rather than promoting your own.

The south side of Canberra is very nice. I would rather live on the south side of Canberra than anywhere else, except… the north side.

2604 said :

Cletus said :

Inner south suburbs are much like inner north, without the traffic congestion or smackies.

Man, you should come to Kingston occasionally! Smackies, vandalism, and crime (both violent and petty) in abundance! I also house-sat in Red Hill last year and saw more of the same while walking the dog around the suburb – esp. around the shops.

Not sure why people automatically equate the Inner South with a good quality of life, either. While it’s conveniently-located, and awfully trendy for the eating-grey-poupon-in-Manuka set, I would hate to be raising kids here.

Would you rather raise them next door to the likes of Ainslie Village or Havelock House…?

Seriously – both inner North and South have their fair share of public housing shockers – it’s not as though all the smackies live on one side of the bridge.

Nice one Mælinar. Sux you have to spend so much time down there. But at least it’s not happening in our neck of the woods, Charnie excluded. And that was in broad day/nightlight, so it doesn’t count.

Cletus said :

Inner south suburbs are much like inner north, without the traffic congestion or smackies.

Man, you should come to Kingston occasionally! Smackies, vandalism, and crime (both violent and petty) in abundance! I also house-sat in Red Hill last year and saw more of the same while walking the dog around the suburb – esp. around the shops.

Not sure why people automatically equate the Inner South with a good quality of life, either. While it’s conveniently-located, and awfully trendy for the eating-grey-poupon-in-Manuka set, I would hate to be raising kids here.

1. I’ve been up looking for dead people at Point Hut Crossing
2. I’ve watched the sun rise over a snowy ridge (and summarily go down) while looking for dead people.
3. I’ve done more forensic searches at flat complexes Southside
4. Your pathetic excuse of a road is called Tharwa Bridge
5. Your closer to the snow
6. They can’t afford knives at Lanyon, you know thats not because they aren’t bogans, its because they are poor bogans
7. In Belconnen, there was no kangaroo protest. Some hippies came up from Southside and made a fuss, and then got into their pajeros and landcruisers and drove home and didn’t see the irony of the situation
8. You can call the parkway whatever you like, no northsider needs to drive on it
9. You have the Hyperdome – what the ?
10. Don’t open the temporal gate. There’s so many more items, us northsiders might raise the stakes and start listing them in 20’s.

Ten things I like about Brocolli

– It’s green
– It’s delicious
– It’s good for you
– You can pretend you are big mean monster that’s eating trees
– It stir fries really well
– It’s cheaper than meat
– It’s suitable for just about every mean
– It doesn’t stain
– Eating it will make you big and strong
– Less bogans.

Ah the north side.. affectionately known as the dark side.

I had the pleasure (or lack of) of going to smellconnen for work in the last week. I have come to the conclusion that it’s overtaken Tuggeranong in the young teenage mother and kids wagging stakes. There were more kids than adults in the mall in the middle of the day and I counted at least 6 teen mothers, when I’d be lucky to could 3 or 4 in the Hyperdome, what’s been happening in the con lately??!

I do have to say I haven’t been to Queanbeyan in a fairly long time, so I can’t make comparisions as to whether the dark side has become worse than there..

rosebud: help? Uh, you got plenty of help from other posters, if you’d care to read them!

It’s funny, inner north yuppies always equate southside with Tuggeranong, and conveniently forget about Belconnen and Gungahlin. Inner south suburbs are much like inner north, without the traffic congestion or smackies.

Lets face it. Canberra is full of bogans ( knocking off work in flouro vests )…who cares what side of town you live on??. Though, i am loyal to the inner north (not that it was, when i was growing up in Downer!!) I cant believe that this stupid debate , “over the bridge” like Sydney has become a Canberra thing. Manuka & Kingston are boring & over rated. Dickson is where all the action is!!

10 things that, are, well, OK I suppose if you really push me, about the southside.

Closer to the snow.
Ummmmmmm.
Not Queanbeyan.

Help?

rosebud sounds like a pretentious serial inner north renter

I just like being closer to Civic.

Kenny, Bruce, Kaleen and the best burnout tyres made, Dunlop.

Sheesh, how bogan does it get?

don’t forget Dickson Woolies is on the northside.

Less bogans

that’d be ‘fewer’…

northside also has a suburb called ‘kenny’. how aussie is that!

and mt ainslie. s’nice.

I fail to see the legitimacy of this argument. Northsiders want to lord it over Southsiders because “we have Gorman House”? Southsiders prefer it because “we have two Hoyts to choose from”???

Christ, you don’t own something because it’s on your side of the lake. Canberra’s really not that big, and we have those things…. um…. what are they called? Oh yeah, Bridges, that enable the fine folk from the North to visit the South (and vice versa) any time they like, at minimal cost to their petrol budget and time schedule.

Jack Dorf said :

It’s all northside really.
One is the fantastic northside of Canberra and the other is the dreary northside of Cooma.

fantastic northside of canberra?

really, if it was so great, i would have stayed there.

so would my parents.

but no, we all moved as soon as possible to the friendly southside.

It’s all northside really.
One is the fantastic northside of Canberra and the other is the dreary northside of Cooma.

They have the Charny Carny though…

CHARNY CARNY!

NH said :

Well, good point. They are pretty much everywhere. Kambah and Weston Creek are brimming with bogans and so is Civic.
Can you guess where I live 😀

bogan capital is still charnwood. being stabbed over a bbq chook – absolute boganity.

um, northside?

Well, good point. They are pretty much everywhere. Kambah and Weston Creek are brimming with bogans and so is Civic.
Can you guess where I live 😀

NH said :

Northside is good because:

It has an arcade
Theres lots of nice places to eat
Its easier to get to most events/friends from (nearly everyone I know seems to be a Northsider)
More happens
Less bogans

Southside is good because:

Kambah Village has metal sheep and its handy
There are lots of ovals and nice places to walk
Close to Woden and Tugg shopping centres
Less yuppies

northside has less bogans??

where are you living??

Northside is good because:

It has an arcade
Theres lots of nice places to eat
Its easier to get to most events/friends from (nearly everyone I know seems to be a Northsider)
More happens
Less bogans

Southside is good because:

Kambah Village has metal sheep and its handy
There are lots of ovals and nice places to walk
Close to Woden and Tugg shopping centres
Less yuppies

Yankee Doodle versus Johnny Reb

10 things i like about southside.
(Or, the first ten things that spring to mind.)

1. It’s not northside!
2. We dont have a pathetic excuse of a road called the gungahlin drive extention.
3. We’re closer to the snow.
4. We dont have Charnwood, where people get stabbed going to the local takeaway. Our only comparisation, Kambah, stuff like that doesnt happen. Clealy we’re better.
5. Where did the kangeroo cull happen? Belconnen. Down our way, that’d never happen.
6. Point Hut Crossing. It’s such a better place to watch the sunset.
7. Dendy is an overpriced consumeristic piece of shit. Hoyts is cheaper!
8. The tuggeranong parkway is named after Tuggeranong. Not Belconnen. Clearly whoever named it was a southsider?
9. We have only one Krispy Kreme, compared to the two that you lot have. So, clearly, we like our arteries the way they are over here more.
10. We’re not as close to frigging queanbeyan as nothside is!

– Having nothing to do with the smackies in civic and adjacent suburbs
– Not living in south central charnie
– Working from my home
– National library, gallery
– Not having the 2nd rubbish dump (I mean, the new museum)
– National parks

Spitfire3 said :

Canberra Stadium is a very short drive away from my and my family’s homes. Makes for a great sunday arvo.

it is a short drive from my home too. tuggeranong isn’t that far, really.

Canberra Stadium is a very short drive away from my and my family’s homes. Makes for a great sunday arvo.

10 things I like about the southside:

– not being northside
– mates in belco can’t be bothered visiting me
– being walking distance to the burns club
– being able to go to indian affair in phillip, or have them home deliver to me.
– new stores opening in kambah – even a coffee shop!
– many other northsiders are here too
– 2 hoyts to choose from
– close to kambah home brew shop
– neighbors who are up for a chat all the time
– my house has increased in value

Top things I like about the southside.
– Not being northside..
– being walking distance to point hut crossing, where you AND your dog can go for a swim in summer
– Being able to watch the sunset/sunrise over the mountains
– Not living near any large flat complexes
– more affordable housing
– Vegetarian house at Tuggeranong
– quick drive to being away from any houses
– the fact that I live there makes its all the more a desirable place to live..