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NSW right uses bully boy tactics

By John Hargreaves - 16 February 2015 44

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The NSW extreme right has once again used its muscle to bully people into doing its bidding. Elected representatives have been coerced and cajoled into toeing the line and putting their support in for an embattled leader.

Sound familiar? I’m not talking about the NSW Labor Party. This is the extreme right of the Liberal Party. Abbott’s cronies have used their factional muscle to shore up support for the defeat of the spill motion.

The tactics are typical of those who are besotted with power. It is typical of those for whom power is the end game; it is not necessary to have good policies; it is not necessary to have the support of the people it is only important to have the parliamentary numbers.

What we saw played out in the spill motion process was factional heavies in NSW, WA, Victoria and SA employing the very tactics the Labor Party has been accused of over the years.

Well, the Labor Party does use these tactics in NSW. But compared to the Libs, they are amateurs at it.

The public have said to the Libs, dump him, the backbench majority has said we should consider dumping him but the powerbrokers have said, it ain’t gunna happen.

Senior ministers ringing colleagues tells me that arm twisting over the phone was the method. I’ve seen it thousands of times and here we go again.

I admire the 39 dissenters who have said, let’s put things to the test. I don’t admire those who used process to avert that test. The motion calling for a spill was called early, the technicality of a procedural motion allowing no debate was employed to stifle the opportunity for those members who wanted to have a say in doing so and bully boy tactics employed to ensure that ministers and whips toed the line. Essentially, it was a typical political stack.

The losers in this debacle are the PM, his cronies (they will go over the cliff with him when the tide turns – in August I predict), any good name the Libs have left and the Australian public.

The PM is mortally wounded and his closest cronies Hockey, Cormann, Pyne, Brandis, Abetz and Andrews are sitting in the mortuary waiting room.

The Australian public are the losers because the same extremists are in charge of developing the new Budget (over the corpse of the last one). Leopards and spots stuff!

The Libs claim they are not like Labor. True! They are greater haters, better leakers, better stalkers, and they have this born right to rule ethic. And they reckon if you make the rich super rich they will look after the poor people. Yeah, right!

They all wear blue ties to mimic the colour of their blood.

From my spot, watching the game from the hill, I like this blood sport. I like to see the gladiatorial contest. I like to see the Libs eating each other. I had to watch their pleasure when in the doldrums ourselves. And what goes around comes around. It is our turn to be entertained.

Don’t let the Mad Monk go anywhere. He is the best thing to ensure a Labor Government in 2016.

Apropos nothing really, did you know that Abbots live in Abbeys not Lodges. And Bishops live in Palaces, hence the refurbishments in the Lodge. Bishops outrank Abbots. I reckon also that the Abbott and both Bishops have committed a number of Cardinal sins and they have been exposed by cartoonist Pope. Funny that!

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NSW right uses bully boy tactics
Garfield 8:05 am 19 Feb 15

gazket said :

The Liberals rallied around Tony Abbott what’s the problem . His peers actually increased Tony Abbotts margin for the top job . Tony Abbott only just beat Malcom Turnball for the job by one vote.

It’s better than stabbing you best mate in the back Labor style.

In regards to the spill motion, the ministers group was obliged to vote as a block by convention. The back benchers were the only ones with free votes, and around 60% of them thought that Tony Abbott had to go – probably because the government has turned the electorate around from 53/47 in their favour at the election to 43/57 in recent polls and many of them stand to lose their seats. In my discussions with people the Liberals were elected despite Tony Abbott, not because of him, and many Liberal voters, especially those that are more swinging voters, would be happy to see him replaced. Replacing a deeply unpopular PM such as Abbott would not have the same negative impact as replacing the relatively popular Rudd, and may be necessary to keep Labor from returning to power at the next election. The question now is can Abbott make significant changes to the way he and his office do things, and start to turn around the fortunes of the Liberal Party. Sacking Ruddock as Chief Whip only a few days after the motion was not a good start.

chewy14 3:14 pm 18 Feb 15

dungfungus said :

gazket said :

The Liberals rallied around Tony Abbott what’s the problem . His peers actually increased Tony Abbotts margin for the top job . Tony Abbott only just beat Malcom Turnball for the job by one vote.

It’s better than stabbing you best mate in the back Labor style.

Labor don’t like Tony Abbott because he has shown the fraud that is climate change and upsets the UN policy of stripping money from 1st world countries and giving it to 3rd world countries.

Labor Government in 2016
Chris Bowen the shadow treasurer has never had a job outside of the government and has sponged of the taxpayer his whole working life. No real world experience what so ever.

Alan Jones proved how stupid Chris Bowen is. This guy has never had a real job outside of taxpayer funding and Labor picked him to be treasurer.

Wayne Swan had the experience of a treasury job at cricket club for a couple of years and look how well he done. Bowen has nothing just like Bill Shorten.

Only thing I wish Tony Abbott would stop doing is saying “captains pick”. That is a Gillard saying and sounds like you are up yourself.

since 1986/7

Labor has posted two surpluses from 13 attempts by five treasurers while the Coalition has 10 surpluses from 12 Budgets, all delivered by Peter Costello.

Australian Budget Surplus score card
Liberal 10 V’s Labor 2

The overall scoreboard shows Costello’s record is SURPLUSES worth $97 billion. Labor’s tally is DEFICITS totaling $284 billion .

I just saw Bowen on ABC News24 defending himself for not knowing what the taxable income threshold was when he was being interviewed by some Alan Jones reporter.
Bowen said that he was talking about taxing the wealthy and their superannuation concessions so the question about low income taxation thresholds was not relevant.
Hello, Mr Bowen? Low income is becoming very relevant to self-funded retirees at present so it was very relevant.
Bowen must get an award for the lamest excuse so far this year.

Yes it was a lame excuse, only beaten by the extreme lameness of the question being asked in the first place.

Does anyone honestly care if the treasurer or shadow treasurer know the exact tax rates and tax free thresholds off the top of their heads during an interview. That’s exactly what they have expert staff for.

It’s the worst kind of “gotcha” reporting and adds nothing to the debate. I’d bet good money that Alan Jones doesn’t know the exact radio frequencies his show airs on around country either. Should that make him unsuitable to be a broadcaster?

dungfungus 2:58 pm 18 Feb 15

gazket said :

The Liberals rallied around Tony Abbott what’s the problem . His peers actually increased Tony Abbotts margin for the top job . Tony Abbott only just beat Malcom Turnball for the job by one vote.

It’s better than stabbing you best mate in the back Labor style.

Labor don’t like Tony Abbott because he has shown the fraud that is climate change and upsets the UN policy of stripping money from 1st world countries and giving it to 3rd world countries.

Labor Government in 2016
Chris Bowen the shadow treasurer has never had a job outside of the government and has sponged of the taxpayer his whole working life. No real world experience what so ever.

Alan Jones proved how stupid Chris Bowen is. This guy has never had a real job outside of taxpayer funding and Labor picked him to be treasurer.

Wayne Swan had the experience of a treasury job at cricket club for a couple of years and look how well he done. Bowen has nothing just like Bill Shorten.

Only thing I wish Tony Abbott would stop doing is saying “captains pick”. That is a Gillard saying and sounds like you are up yourself.

since 1986/7

Labor has posted two surpluses from 13 attempts by five treasurers while the Coalition has 10 surpluses from 12 Budgets, all delivered by Peter Costello.

Australian Budget Surplus score card
Liberal 10 V’s Labor 2

The overall scoreboard shows Costello’s record is SURPLUSES worth $97 billion. Labor’s tally is DEFICITS totaling $284 billion .

I just saw Bowen on ABC News24 defending himself for not knowing what the taxable income threshold was when he was being interviewed by some Alan Jones reporter.
Bowen said that he was talking about taxing the wealthy and their superannuation concessions so the question about low income taxation thresholds was not relevant.
Hello, Mr Bowen? Low income is becoming very relevant to self-funded retirees at present so it was very relevant.
Bowen must get an award for the lamest excuse so far this year.

watto23 1:02 pm 18 Feb 15

rosscoact said :

neanderthalsis said :

rosscoact said :

It’s a funny thing but I’ve noticed the majority of Liberal voters no longer wish to discuss the Federal government train wreck that is determined to screw up pretty much everything they touch.

Dungers excepted of course

This is because most Liberal voters recognise bad government when they see it. At the opposite end of the scale are the rusted on, one eyed Labor voters who will avidly declare support for incompetence, ineptitude and even downright corruption.

Meh, I’m pretty sure everyone can recognise a bad government followed by a worse one.

The Labor government wasn’t really as bad as the coalition would have you believe. they had internal squabbling issues which led to their demise. As a government they functioned much better than the current government.

They blame labor for over spending, when spending was around 24-25% of GDP, which was exactly the same as the previous 20 odd years, most of which was a liberal government.

They blame labor for blocking everything in the senate, but really its the other mostly right leaning senators that are blocking the policies. After all Abbott couldn’t negotiate with two ex National party independents to get power in 2010.

I know the coalition apologists will just call me a left wing socialist, but I’m not. I’m a reasonable moderate swing voter, many of whom it seems voted for this current government and won’t vote for them again.

gazket 12:54 pm 18 Feb 15

The Liberals rallied around Tony Abbott what’s the problem . His peers actually increased Tony Abbotts margin for the top job . Tony Abbott only just beat Malcom Turnball for the job by one vote.

It’s better than stabbing you best mate in the back Labor style.

Labor don’t like Tony Abbott because he has shown the fraud that is climate change and upsets the UN policy of stripping money from 1st world countries and giving it to 3rd world countries.

Labor Government in 2016
Chris Bowen the shadow treasurer has never had a job outside of the government and has sponged of the taxpayer his whole working life. No real world experience what so ever.

Alan Jones proved how stupid Chris Bowen is. This guy has never had a real job outside of taxpayer funding and Labor picked him to be treasurer.

Wayne Swan had the experience of a treasury job at cricket club for a couple of years and look how well he done. Bowen has nothing just like Bill Shorten.

Only thing I wish Tony Abbott would stop doing is saying “captains pick”. That is a Gillard saying and sounds like you are up yourself.

since 1986/7

Labor has posted two surpluses from 13 attempts by five treasurers while the Coalition has 10 surpluses from 12 Budgets, all delivered by Peter Costello.

Australian Budget Surplus score card
Liberal 10 V’s Labor 2

The overall scoreboard shows Costello’s record is SURPLUSES worth $97 billion. Labor’s tally is DEFICITS totaling $284 billion .

Affirmative Action M 11:10 am 18 Feb 15

Mysteryman said :

Affirmative Action Man said :

I was hopeful Mr Hargraves might provide some insightful comments – maybe an insiders view on how the system works a bit like articles we see from Gary Johns or Carmen Lawrence instead we get lots of party political waffle. Really we may as well have Simon Corbell or Addrew Barr write the column for him.

You must be new here.

Not new just maybe naïve.

Mysteryman 9:21 pm 17 Feb 15

Affirmative Action Man said :

I was hopeful Mr Hargraves might provide some insightful comments – maybe an insiders view on how the system works a bit like articles we see from Gary Johns or Carmen Lawrence instead we get lots of party political waffle. Really we may as well have Simon Corbell or Addrew Barr write the column for him.

You must be new here.

rosscoact 8:56 pm 17 Feb 15

neanderthalsis said :

rosscoact said :

It’s a funny thing but I’ve noticed the majority of Liberal voters no longer wish to discuss the Federal government train wreck that is determined to screw up pretty much everything they touch.

Dungers excepted of course

This is because most Liberal voters recognise bad government when they see it. At the opposite end of the scale are the rusted on, one eyed Labor voters who will avidly declare support for incompetence, ineptitude and even downright corruption.

Meh, I’m pretty sure everyone can recognise a bad government followed by a worse one.

Weatherman 4:35 pm 17 Feb 15

There’s a very strong requirement for stability in government at the federal level. It would be severely bad to have the culture of political knifing embedded at a federal level of government.

Affirmative Action M 9:18 am 17 Feb 15

I was hopeful Mr Hargraves might provide some insightful comments – maybe an insiders view on how the system works a bit like articles we see from Gary Johns or Carmen Lawrence instead we get lots of party political waffle. Really we may as well have Simon Corbell or Addrew Barr write the column for him.

neanderthalsis 8:28 am 17 Feb 15

rosscoact said :

It’s a funny thing but I’ve noticed the majority of Liberal voters no longer wish to discuss the Federal government train wreck that is determined to screw up pretty much everything they touch.

Dungers excepted of course

This is because most Liberal voters recognise bad government when they see it. At the opposite end of the scale are the rusted on, one eyed Labor voters who will avidly declare support for incompetence, ineptitude and even downright corruption.

rosscoact 7:36 pm 16 Feb 15

It’s a funny thing but I’ve noticed the majority of Liberal voters no longer wish to discuss the Federal government train wreck that is determined to screw up pretty much everything they touch.

Dungers excepted of course

MERC600 6:02 pm 16 Feb 15

John thanks , but this has been really done to death. With your insight and contacts , please tell us about this tram thing. At the moment this is the main topic. Is it a go-er, is it all wrapped up. Do all the ALP MLA’s agree? Any faction play at all?

Thanks in advance. All the best. Merc

Evilomlap 4:32 pm 16 Feb 15

I used to think that perhaps his seemingly random blunders were part of some overall Plan; some Machiavellian plot we the public were not aware of. I figured that this kind of extreme idiocy could not possibly be accidental. But now I’ve come to the conclusion that Abbott really is as oblivious as he seems.

I hope he clings to power and defeats any further challenges to his leadership. I also hope he and his supporters continue to make shooting themselves in the foot an art form. Thankfully this seems very likely, as the extreme right in the Liberal party would rather lose an election than see someone like Turnbull take the reins.

I hate to see the fascinating organism that is politics in this country (not to mention the wonderful symbol of freedom and democracy that is our electoral system) reduced to this banal “pick us, because we’re not them” mentality.

And the blue vs red tie thing is just sad, on both sides of the house. I look forward to a day when this country ceases to be governed by a bunch of children.

MERC600 11:28 am 16 Feb 15

Quite a long comment John. Feeling better now ?

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