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Once a Knight’s enough

By John Hargreaves - 30 January 2015 96

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So everyone in the known universe is criticising the PM for making the Duke of Edinburgh a Knight of the Order of Australia. I might have a go too.

Much has been written about the hideous anachronism of the reintroduction of the awards of knights and dames and rightly so. Long ago, we shrugged off the apron strings of the British empire and became our own entity.

So much of this stuff is Back to the Future comedy. I am paused to wonder whether there is some sick Blackadder type humour in all of this.

I reckon that Angus Houston is indeed a true hero of our beloved country and should be recognised as such. But rather then make a knight of him (and we respect his humility, so obvious in his entire career), we should have given him Sir Peter Cosgrove’s job in the first place.

But what kind of brain snap made the PM give a knighthood to a bloke who has more unearned bling than a marshal of the Russian Air Force or a North Korean general?

What part of the diminution of the Companion of the Order of Australia, carried so proudly by great Australians is a good idea?

What part of licking the boots of the aristocracy of another country, rendering Australia to the status of a colony yet again is a good idea?

What has the Duke ever done to make this country a better place? It is quoted that the Duke of Edinburgh Awards system has given young Australian such a positive opportunity. Yeah, well, the Duke didn’t start it. He just lent his name to it to give it prestige in much the same way as the Churchill Fellowship bears the name of a former British PM.

From where I sit as an Australian by choice, having been born in England, this is an appalling insult to the whole country and everyone in it, and not something done in my name.

It shows an appalling lack of judgment on the PM’s part and a lack of regard for the community at large. It demeans us all and shows the PM’s disregard for the consultative process which should be part of the process of governance. Captain’s pick is garbage.

It also shows the lack of courage from his parliamentary colleagues who don’t have the guts to stand up to him and tell him to pull his head in.

Since he won’t go to an early election, and he has the triggers for a double dissolution, I am happy for him to stay in his job. He made a good leader of the opposition before the election and is making a good leader of the opposition right now. He’s the best thing for the future of the ALP than anything else.

Anyway, my prediction for 2016 is “Arise Sir John (Howard)!”

Why would you want to do this? Like Sir Robert Menzies, he wants to be Sir Anthony Abbott.

What’s Your opinion?


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96 Responses to
Once a Knight’s enough
dungfungus 9:04 am 31 Jan 15

JC said :

dungfungus said :

I think you owe Tony Abbott an apology John for was it not Bob Hawke, a Labor prime minister, who about 1980 recommended that Prince Philip receive an OAM which what was then Australia’s highest honour?
Funny how no one thought that was an appalling decision then and also how it has been forgotten about.

So Liebral, blame Labor. What happened 30-35 years ago is irrelevant in 2015

The country has changed and attitudes to awards such as these have changed, except is seems in the eyes of hardcore Liebrals such as Tony Abbott and yourself.

If the changes you cite have happened, how come the coalition was elected with a big majority and Tony Abbott became PM 18 months ago?
I don’t really care about the awards and I believe the voters don’t either. The Abbott haters are in full flight now with this confectioned beat up about the knighthood.
It must be a difficult dilemma for the left to accept the support of Rupert Murdoch who is constantly derided for his support of the conservatives by you and your peers.
I gather you supported Bob Hawke’s decision then?

rosscoact 10:02 pm 30 Jan 15

dungfungus said :

I think you owe Tony Abbott an apology John for was it not Bob Hawke, a Labor prime minister, who about 1980 recommended that Prince Philip receive an OAM which what was then Australia’s highest honour?
Funny how no one thought that was an appalling decision then and also how it has been forgotten about.

Aside from the fact that that was a generation ago, it would have been an appalling decision if it had happened but obviously somebody or many people said “Bob, this would be the stupidest decision in the history of stupid.’ or ‘Bob if you do that, under the dictionary entry for stupid will be your name.’ or ‘Bob, if you want to lose the next election because everybody thinks you are barking mad, go right ahead.’ This meant that it didn’t proceed, which is a big difference.

See, no apology necessary. As Forest’s mother says ‘Stupid is as stupid does’.

JC 9:47 pm 30 Jan 15

dungfungus said :

I think you owe Tony Abbott an apology John for was it not Bob Hawke, a Labor prime minister, who about 1980 recommended that Prince Philip receive an OAM which what was then Australia’s highest honour?
Funny how no one thought that was an appalling decision then and also how it has been forgotten about.

So Liebral, blame Labor. What happened 30-35 years ago is irrelevant in 2015

The country has changed and attitudes to awards such as these have changed, except is seems in the eyes of hardcore Liebrals such as Tony Abbott and yourself.

dungfungus 7:17 pm 30 Jan 15

I think you owe Tony Abbott an apology John for was it not Bob Hawke, a Labor prime minister, who about 1980 recommended that Prince Philip receive an OAM which what was then Australia’s highest honour?
Funny how no one thought that was an appalling decision then and also how it has been forgotten about.

Pork Hunt 6:59 pm 30 Jan 15

switch said :

rosscoact said :

A stupid iceberg in a sea of stupidity.

I’ve seen it called “Peak Stupid” which is pretty apt.

But every time he achieves what we think has to be Peak Stupid, he goes even higher!

They call that the “seasonally adjusted” peak stupid.

chewy14 6:18 pm 30 Jan 15

watto23 said :

It really isn’t the knighting that is the issue. Its just that he thinks this is important, yet has no issues with disadvantaging those in need while giving back to those who don’t need it. This symbolises what he believes and that is the real problem. Just like his daughter got a scholarship. Or the government “helps” out the needy donaters to the political party. Most of what has been said by the current government has been shown to be a lie, even the budget crisis doesn’t register on a graph, except for the fact that revenue keeps decreasing, spending has stayed pretty constant.

Its too late now for the LNP. Abbott was great as an opposition leader, but lets not forget he was really a scapegoat to go to the 2010 election and lose. However Labor imploded and he benefited. Otherwise Rudd beats him in 2010 and Hockey, Turnbull or someone else becomes leader. I don’t think he is otherwise very good at anything and even in opposition it was doubtful he was good at that as it was like putting more wood onto a bonfire.

Can you point link to the budget papers that show that government revenue has been decreasing and spending has remained about the same, I must have missed that one.

Mysteryman 6:03 pm 30 Jan 15

watto23 said :

It really isn’t the knighting that is the issue. Its just that he thinks this is important, yet has no issues with disadvantaging those in need while giving back to those who don’t need it. This symbolises what he believes and that is the real problem.

Please provide some ACTUAL evidence of how he has “disadvantaging those in need”. And no, further rhetoric doesn’t count. Start with real links to proof of what you’re claiming. I’d like to see them since you make assertions like this frequently regarding the current government but I’m yet to see you provide a shred of evidence that supports what you’re saying.

chewy14 said :

Does anyone think that these type of awards actually ever go to the most deserving person?

The whinging about this is about as silly as the awarding of the knighthood in the first place. It’s all politically tinged point scoring.

Haven’t we got much bigger fish to fry?

I agree. I honestly couldn’t care less about whether we do or don’t have knights and dames. It does seem like a stupid thing to do politically, though.

tuco 4:53 pm 30 Jan 15

Hang on – why is the Russian air force thrown in with this lot?
Was it not enough to have the largest air force during the Cold War? And isn’t the MiG worth something?
Oh anyway, carry on …

watto23 4:35 pm 30 Jan 15

It really isn’t the knighting that is the issue. Its just that he thinks this is important, yet has no issues with disadvantaging those in need while giving back to those who don’t need it. This symbolises what he believes and that is the real problem. Just like his daughter got a scholarship. Or the government “helps” out the needy donaters to the political party. Most of what has been said by the current government has been shown to be a lie, even the budget crisis doesn’t register on a graph, except for the fact that revenue keeps decreasing, spending has stayed pretty constant.

Its too late now for the LNP. Abbott was great as an opposition leader, but lets not forget he was really a scapegoat to go to the 2010 election and lose. However Labor imploded and he benefited. Otherwise Rudd beats him in 2010 and Hockey, Turnbull or someone else becomes leader. I don’t think he is otherwise very good at anything and even in opposition it was doubtful he was good at that as it was like putting more wood onto a bonfire.

switch 2:00 pm 30 Jan 15

rosscoact said :

A stupid iceberg in a sea of stupidity.

I’ve seen it called “Peak Stupid” which is pretty apt.

But every time he achieves what we think has to be Peak Stupid, he goes even higher!

Mess 1:49 pm 30 Jan 15

John Hargreaves said :

It is not unheard of for the Brits to give knighthoods to non Brits. Bob Geldof is one such as was Charlie Chaplin. So it is fine, eh, for Oz to give one to a Brit, even if it was to a bloke who is essentially a house husband in a rooly fancy hoose.

Charlie Chaplin was British.

rosscoact 1:27 pm 30 Jan 15

A stupid iceberg in a sea of stupidity.

I’ve seen it called “Peak Stupid” which is pretty apt.

Ben_Dover 1:03 pm 30 Jan 15

So everyone in the known universe is criticising the PM for making the Duke of Edinburgh a Knight of the Order of Australia

Ho hum…

Poll: Should Prince Philip have been made an Australian knight?
Yes. He has served Australia with distinction. 7%
No. It takes Australia back to the 18th century. 93%

chewy14 12:48 pm 30 Jan 15

Does anyone think that these type of awards actually ever go to the most deserving person?

The whinging about this is about as silly as the awarding of the knighthood in the first place. It’s all politically tinged point scoring.

Haven’t we got much bigger fish to fry?

John Hargreaves 11:22 am 30 Jan 15

And… while I’m on the subject, what about Rupert Murdoch’s outburst! That’s it for his knighthood!

It is not unheard of for the Brits to give knighthoods to non Brits. Bob Geldof is one such as was Charlie Chaplin. So it is fine, eh, for Oz to give one to a Brit, even if it was to a bloke who is essentially a house husband in a rooly fancy hoose.

I predicted one for Honest John Howard. I should have included Rupert! He’s the Godfather of all things Liberal and Conservative in this country and has abandoned his citizenship in favour of better taxation havens. Exactly the criteria for a knighthood.

But not that Rupe has bagged out the PM’s C of S, he’s off the Christmas Card (read Knighthood) list.

But the best news in all of this for this little republican, was the bagging Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt, those bastions of democracy, gave the idiotic decision. Go Boys!

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