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Online classifieds and strange behaviour

YapYapYap 20 July 2010 32

I have a car for sale on allclassifieds.com.au.

When I first posted the ad, and each time I make a change to it, I get a contact from someone (well, apparently five different people) and who claim to be: a) a ship’s engineer, b) working on an oil rig (2), c) out of the country due to employment (2).

Each agree to my asking price without seeing the car, each insist payment be made via PayPal, and each will send an agent to pick up the car.

What is this about?

ps At the risk of having 500 such contacts, I won’t identify the ad.


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p1 p1 11:08 pm 21 Jul 10

Maybe you should send them a drawing of a spider as a refund?

declutter declutter 10:16 pm 21 Jul 10

In less than 1 week I’ve received 4 responses from these scammers – viz Mandy Jones (2 about the same ad), Serena Hilton (Could be Paris’ Sister) and daflewjack01@aol.com (whoever that is)

These cagey grubs must think that we’ve all had lobotomies and are totally brain dead

They obviously don’t even read the ads properly as I’ve been repeatedly asked the price and whether I’d accept $AUD to which I promptly requested $US instead.

In my latest reply I responded;
“As you have admitted that your PayPal account is attached to your Bank account, would you also please explain to me why you cannot pay by direct electronic transfer to a bank account instead of PayPal.

Your friends Mike Shepherd, Serena Hilton and Mandy Jones are also interested and like you they all want to Pay by PayPal – strange isn’t it. I guess this will be the last email from you”

I love the Aussie larrikin humour and suggestions preceding my post – keep it up

forwardranga forwardranga 12:19 pm 21 Jul 10

Allclassifieds offer some advice at:
http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0053?ss=ACT

p1 p1 11:25 am 21 Jul 10

pptvb said :

Why not create, say……, 5 fictitious ads for cars, colostomy bags, or whatever, and put the above email addresses as the contacts?
Should be a laugh.

I really love the idea of the scammer getting these emails from another scammer.

Genie said :

The friend decided to be a smart arse and replied saying “thats awesome however the price of the car is now $500,000.

Got a reply almost instantly saying that it wasn’t a problem and that as soon as he set up his paypal the money would be transferred.

Well, if they paid $500k, you could afford to post the car registered mail to their oilrig, and paypal couldn’t complain about not following the small print…

Genie Genie 9:43 am 21 Jul 10

My mate told me about this yesterday… She put 3 ads on for herself, her partner and friend. All different contacts and they all got the exact same email.

The friend decided to be a smart arse and replied saying “thats awesome however the price of the car is now $500,000.”

Got a reply almost instantly saying that it wasn’t a problem and that as soon as he set up his paypal the money would be transferred.

I dont understand how people fall for these scams. But I like pptvb suggestion of setting up fake ads using those emails…

pptvb pptvb 7:32 am 21 Jul 10

YapYapYap said :

Thanks for the feedback.

I received contacts from the following:

jonesmandy42@y7mail.com

bostyvelossy01@aol.com

bettyjones009@gmail.com

danielcampbell07@hotmail.com

pete.john1001@gmail.com

Why not create, say……, 5 fictitious ads for cars, colostomy bags, or whatever, and put the above email addresses as the contacts?
Should be a laugh.

Pandy Pandy 12:25 am 21 Jul 10

I like to respond that I too am on an oil rig etc, and funny enough I too have no access to the Internet so would they mind if my agent meets your agent over lunch? Usually gets a bite!!

YapYapYap YapYapYap 10:55 pm 20 Jul 10
westyonline westyonline 9:29 pm 20 Jul 10

if it sounds too good to be true,it quite often is…we have a bike for sale on allclassies,the latest one wanted to pay 2000 more than the asking price,which is 1500 more than brand new??.we have had dozens of these scams come thru in the last couple of months,i just delete them straight up now.
you can try the ANITFRAUD INTERNATIONAL forum website for more info if not sure!

BundahBoy BundahBoy 9:24 pm 20 Jul 10

Marcus Bent hehe

Beserk Keyboard Warrior Beserk Keyboard Warrior 6:41 pm 20 Jul 10

A fool and his cash are easily parted. It’s hard to have a lot of sympathy for anyone dumb enough to fall for this rubbish.

Jivrashia Jivrashia 4:43 pm 20 Jul 10

Bosworth said :

Why can’t I:
receive the paypal deposit, transfer it in to my bank account, withdraw the cash from an ATM, and only then give the car to the purchaser(or not) ?

Because you will still be required to surrender the money to the authority when they trace the transaction from a hacked paypal account to yours and come knocking on your door. Or, paypal will send a debt collector after you because you have breached their Terms & Conditions by not posting the car to the buyer through registered post.

Of course, you do not have to worry about a thing if you took the extra effort to do dumpster diving to steal some identity, opened a bank account with it, link that to a paypal account you’ve hacked, and do all transactions through prepaid 3G internet account or from an internet cafe.

Monster of the Deep Monster of the Deep 4:17 pm 20 Jul 10

ps0104 said :

that he is in the UK and needs my address so that his agent can come to look at the car and arrange shipping.

When selling couches on AllClassifieds I got an email like this. The general consensus at my place was that by asking for our address they were trying to scout us out for robbery 😮

AllClassifieds does have something written somewhere about being careful about dodgy emails, but they’re very vague about it and I think they should really elaborate more so people understand what they mean before they get these emails, not after.

Katietonia Katietonia 3:38 pm 20 Jul 10

My partner had similar emails when he put his car up for sale on there. It is most definitely a scam.

I had fun emailing back and forth with this person, pretending I believed them for weeks.

p1 p1 2:48 pm 20 Jul 10

M0les said :

#10 Aurelius – That’s the crux of one cheque scam I know of: Overpay, request refund of difference and then cancel the cheque before it clears: “Yoink!”

Send the refund by cheque. 🙂

M0les M0les 2:00 pm 20 Jul 10

#10 Aurelius – That’s the crux of one cheque scam I know of: Overpay, request refund of difference and then cancel the cheque before it clears: “Yoink!”

Inappropriate Inappropriate 1:43 pm 20 Jul 10

Bosworth said :

Why can’t I:

receive the paypal deposit, transfer it in to my bank account, withdraw the cash from an ATM, and only then give the car to the purchaser(or not) ?

You never receive the PayPal desposit: they send you a dodgy email to trick you into thinking you did.

Buzz2600 Buzz2600 1:23 pm 20 Jul 10

My in-laws were contacted by a similar “out of country” scammer while in the process of selling their campervan. They were asked by the scammer to DEPOSIT money before the sale could occur … I’m not sure of the exact excuse given as to why they needed to do this. Needless to say, they didn’t go through with the transaction.

Be very careful!

p1 p1 1:14 pm 20 Jul 10

Bosworth said :

Why can’t I:

receive the paypal deposit, transfer it in to my bank account, withdraw the cash from an ATM, and only then give the car to the purchaser(or not) ?

That is exactly what you would have to do to be safe, but these people are pretty good at not letting you get hold of their money. 419 eater has some awesome stories of baiting these guys though, getting them to spend ages doing ridiculous stunts to try and earn their trust…

rosscoact rosscoact 1:13 pm 20 Jul 10

yes you can, however it won’t happen. Try it but at the same time ask for a scan of their drivers license, bet they don’t send it

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