Payday for the Secretaries

Albigeois 10 July 2008 29

So news.com.au is reporting that Secretaries of Departments have ALL received pay increases of 18.9%.

http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,23986832-462,00.html

All this in a time of wage restraint, downsizing, redundancies and efficiency dividends.

Perhaps it’s a while since they got a pay increase. But if memory serves me correct all Departmental Secretaries signed 5 year contracts in December 07/January 08 so in theory they should have negotiated any pay increase then?

Interesting.


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astrojax astrojax 8:35 pm 11 Jul 08

I’m not impacted in any way

…or ‘affected’… [sorry, attack of the language nazis, and i hate this one, though i fear i’m being impacted by a losing campaign – an ‘impact’ is a collision of two physical bodies, innit?]

ok, over, don’t mind me. do go on… 😉

i thought the secs’ pay rise was actually a 4% rise – which elsewhere in this thread is accepted as keeping up with cpi – with a one-off reimbursement of contractual matters discarded with the ‘work choices’ legislation of the previous gov’t. but yes, agree that i shouldn’t like their gig – they are welcome to as much money as they can argue for; would sooner have a life… all a media beat up again really…

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 1:49 pm 11 Jul 08

Seems to me that a lot of these senior pubes have been working their little keisters off recently, and given the state of the private sector, I think such a pay rise is completely justified.

And no, I’m not impacted in any way by these pay rises.

Overheard Overheard 12:07 pm 11 Jul 08

Clown Killer said :

I doubt it DJ. Look at what a department head is responsible for and what do they get? Max $500k/pa? It’s not that hard to make money like that in the private sector withiut getting any where near that sort of responsibility.

Sorry, we were talking about Secretaries/heads of agencies and their salaries at one stage. Clown Killer, couldn’t agree more. Some of them are managing billion dollar budgets. You never hear about it when they do their job properly, and arguably neither you should, but by Christ they get put to the sword quickly enough if something goes pear-shaped, within or outside their control.

Overheard Overheard 12:04 pm 11 Jul 08

jcf said :

Because he was clearly driving fast to compensate for penis size. THAT IS THE ONLY LOGICAL ANSWER.

Watch out Grampa, those darn youths are on your lawn again!

Hey, if this dolt wants to take himself out of the gene pool there are much more effective, quick and less public ways of doing so. It’s the high propensity for his taking some innocent with him on his way out that p!sses me off. I didn’t mention pen!s size, but since we’re in that region of the anatomy, I’ve always wondered how these Einsteins manage to watch the road while their heads are pressed up against their colons.

Ever seen the scene of a fatal motorcycle accident, jcf? It ain’t pretty.

jcf jcf 11:41 am 11 Jul 08

Because he was clearly driving fast to compensate for penis size. THAT IS THE ONLY LOGICAL ANSWER.

Watch out Grampa, those darn youths are on your lawn again!

Overheard Overheard 11:23 am 11 Jul 08

shauno said :

Hit a nice regular 240km/hr on some of the brisk straights past Kiandra. Brings back memories of a few runs up there on bikes and my mate having to go knee down on a bend to avoid an off on an unexpected corner after hooking on the breaks at 280km/hr on the zx10 not knowing the road.

Tosser. I hope they keep airing those ‘little pinky’ ads just for you and your mate, sunshine.

Overheard Overheard 11:21 am 11 Jul 08

Albigeois said :

Overboard: no worries my real question was about how they were getting pay increases so soon after signing contracts; but i wasn’t aware of the tribunal making wage recommendations. It makes sense now 🙂

Thumper: it’s may 68, not 58 (sorry… one of my specialties). But I like the spirit of the sentiment… vive la revolution!!

“Overboard”? I thought I was being rather moderate!!

Appreciate the gist of your original question; I was just fired up from reading other whinges elsewhere about this. I actually posted a comment to that story on News, pointing out the part they missed and making a few other observations. Maybe it was calling other commentors ‘morons’ that got it left off.

As for the ‘Vive le revolution’ stuff, I get an acute attack of the yawns when I read this sort of stuff. Those spouting that are generally (not always) the same people who you pull the string in their back and they wail, ‘X,Y or Z is wrong; when is the government going to do something about it?’

For any and all of his shortcomings, I had to clap when Sonic was taking a question from a citizen on radio one day on the state of litter on the Monaro Highway, and ‘Angry of Aranda’ or ‘Miffed of Macquarie’ demanded to know when the government was going to do something about it. Sonic’s response: ‘Well, the government didn’t put the rubbish there; the community did. Maybe the community should clean it up?’ and then went into a discussion about where he would be taking the money from if he were to start a Clean Up the Monaro program.

shauno shauno 2:52 am 11 Jul 08

Not to bad. I only got 18% last year. Mind you if you im well up 100% over 3 years. That reminds me just game back from a nice run over the snowy in the 565 cube sonny leonard built chevy. Hit a nice regular 240km/hr on some of the brisk straights past Kiandra. Brings back memories of a few runs up there on bikes and my mate having to go knee down on a bend to avoid an off on an unexpected corner after hooking on the breaks at 280km/hr on the zx10 not knowing the road. I recommend keeping an eye out for the scrubbers and roos and also lose foliage on the road.

Albigeois Albigeois 10:00 pm 10 Jul 08

Overboard: no worries my real question was about how they were getting pay increases so soon after signing contracts; but i wasn’t aware of the tribunal making wage recommendations. It makes sense now 🙂

Thumper: it’s may 68, not 58 (sorry… one of my specialties). But I like the spirit of the sentiment… vive la revolution!!

Clown Killer Clown Killer 8:15 pm 10 Jul 08

I doubt it DJ. Look at what a department head is responsible for and what do they get? Max $500k/pa? It’s not that hard to make money like that in the private sector withiut getting any where near that sort of responsibility.

spoonbill spoonbill 8:15 pm 10 Jul 08

I’m with smokey4. Bring on the revolution

DJ DJ 8:04 pm 10 Jul 08

Or they were being grossly overpaid to start with?

Clown Killer Clown Killer 8:00 pm 10 Jul 08

The pay rates are set by an independant body, aproved by the PM. It looks fair to me given how far behind “real world” salaries these people are getting.

DJ DJ 7:53 pm 10 Jul 08

I recall recently that well regarded financial advisor’s close to the PM made comments in the media that we shouldn’t be asking for pay rises with the suggestion that a recession (?) would be the result?

Pesty Pesty 7:50 pm 10 Jul 08

From what I have seen, public servents in general really work for a living these days, However,it seems that once you get to a certain level, it changes to having to living for work! as most don’t get much of a life outside of their work, then they probably deserve the money. I am not envious, I pity them if anything. You only come this way once! There must be more to life than just work. (Mrs Pesty will remind me of this someday I know!)How many people outside the PS work so long hours all the year as these top dogs?

Sleaz274 Sleaz274 7:50 pm 10 Jul 08

Of course it probably had to go through one of these “secretaries” hands before going to the minister so it would have been returned with a nice little post it saying “Treasury’s recommendation is actually yes, please adjust your comments”

And F$%^ your double posts I made it to troublemaker (also known as the voice of reason)

Sleaz274 Sleaz274 7:41 pm 10 Jul 08

G-Fresh your arguments surely apply just as well to police, teachers and nurses who have to fight tooth and nail for years through their unions to get a pay rise which basically keeps them up with inflation and they gave away privileges or agreed to extra hours to get.

If I was the analyst in Treasury writing on this one I would have recommended no. It is an avoidable cost on a politically sensitive issue which does not increase capacity or quality or incentives and is largely out of scale with current renumeration packages used in the wider community. It should not be incorporated into base pay and become the standard.

Or something like that…

Ahh to be close to the corridors of power at least someone gets looked after. Just a note for everybody in Australia if your pay has not increased by 4% this last financial year you are getting a pay decrease due to inflation and should be asking your Boss why your base has not been increased.

DJ DJ 7:26 pm 10 Jul 08

I bet performance pay comes back in when Rudd fails to hold onto the PMs job (sooner the better IMHO)… and there will be no recognition of it having already been added to base pay.

Pollies and perks.

Thumper Thumper 5:53 pm 10 Jul 08

Mag 58 will do me…

smokey4 smokey4 5:31 pm 10 Jul 08

Totally obscene and come the revolution by the masses… we may need a guillotine.

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