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Police shoot savage dogs in Macgregor

By trickyxr 26 October 2010 131

[First filed: Oct 25, 2010 @ 11:47]

dog bite [Photo of Ameristralian’s injuries]

A friend of mine had two savage stray dogs one a pit bull and the other a mastiff cornered in her backyard yesterday by the dog controllers.

The two controllers were unable to get a hold of the dogs and the police were called in to shoot the dog.

My friend tells me they shot about 14 bullets into the dogs and 1 enterd their back window.

Seems a bit overboard and also dangerous considering people were inside the house. Apparently these two dogs had been on the loose attacking people  all day.

UPDATE – JB: Riot Reader “Ameristralian” has sent in the above pic of injury sustained in the West Belconnen canine reign of terror. The AFP have now put out a media release:

ACT Policing will interview the owners of two large dogs which were responsible for three separate attacks across Belconnen yesterday (Sunday, October 24) and had to be shot by officers.

The two large dogs, a 60kg black Mastiff and a 35kg tan pitbull-Staffordshire cross, had been the subject of several reports to ACT Domestic Animal Services yesterday.

About 2.15pm, a female with two toddlers was attacked by two dogs in Crowley Place, Charnwood. She received a bite to her elbow but managed to fend off the animals.

Around half an hour later, a 30-year-old female was attacked in the same street, suffering a bite to her inner thigh. She attended a doctor this morning for treatment and may require plastic surgery at a later date.

About 3.15pm a pregnant woman was attacked by the same two dogs in Shakespeare Crescent, Fraser, resulting in a bite to her thigh and large bruise to her wrist. It is not known whether she has sought medical treatment.

Around 9.30pm police responded to a call for assistance by an ACT Domestic Animal Services officer regarding two savage dogs that had been located in Macgregor. The dogs matched the description involved in the three separate dog attacks from earlier in the day.

The ACT DAS officer had managed to corral the two dogs at the end of a sealed “battleaxe” driveway in Macgregor but due to the size and high aggression of the animals, was unable to catch them with his noose pole.

Police attended the location and through a significant concern for the safety of the public should the dogs manage to escape, the officers made a decision to use their firearms to shoot the dogs.

The Officer in Charge of Belconnen Police Station, Sergeant Matt Corbitt, said that if the dogs had escaped again during the hours of darkness, there was significant potential for them to injure people again.

“Given the injuries sustained by people from attacks earlier in the day and that fact that these aggressive animals were able to avoid capture from an animal handler, police believe these dogs presented unacceptable risk to the community and had to be destroyed,” Sgt Corbitt said.

Police believe that other people may have encountered these two dogs roaming in the Belconnen area during the day, and may have sustained bites or other injuries. If any members of the public in the Belconnen area had an encounter with an aggressive dog such as that described above, or suffered an injury as a result of a dog attack yesterday (Sunday, October 24), they are urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.


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kingcosworth 9:44 pm 05 Nov 10

Quick question, how many people that are saying the amount of bullets fired was excessive, have fired a medium to high powered handgun. It’s not like the movies where you can shoot the baddy at 100 mtrs, each with one shot while combing your hair. None of us where there, but an aggressive dog let alone two wouldn’t be propping to quick under spotlight. Plus, I admit i’m not sure on this, but the projectiles used with police ammunition would be fairly heavily jacketed to increase the chance of wounding as appose to killing (following NATO rules with our military ammo) This generally would require more shots to induce enough trauma for a kill. Cut the coppers that did the shooting a bit of slack, they did it for community safety, i’m sure they where not trying to be heroes, and I still find it amusing / disappointing that so many people in our society have comments on firearms, yet probably have never held one or if they did, wouldn’t know what they are looking at!

Pandy 10:38 am 31 Oct 10

A shotty? Blah!!!

You need one of these:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmwIySAgYymNZOk62c4bdK2_a9HrfsGNfeyfrg3rhFqvwziPU

It is the only way to be sure.

Timberwolf65 9:09 am 31 Oct 10

I think the owners should be bloody shot for raising these dogs to be savage.

DBCooper 2:24 pm 29 Oct 10

What kind of hollowpoints do they use in their pistols?

It’s pretty amazing the ACT police aren’t allowed to have shotguns or carbines. I guess it’s more politically correct for the cops to be blazing away with less accurate pistols in situations where one or two shots of 12 gauge would sort things out?

They should issue the cops Benneli M-3 semi/pump combination shotguns which would afford the use of less lethal riot loads for crowd control while still allowing the officers to rapidly engage multiple dropbears (mid-flight) with buckshot before those furry assassins have a chance to latch onto some poor bastards neck and rip their throat out. Just a thought?

Jethro 2:06 pm 29 Oct 10

Captain RAAF said :

Noezis said :

Requirement to go to the stan was 25 out of 40 into a saucer sized circle at 25 mtrs. Yours truly, 39/40….pulled one and not happy about it.

Does this mean that Aussie soldiers who, for whatever reason, would prefer not to participate in our overseas operations can simply get out of it by a few ‘poorly’ fired shots from a pistol?

CraigT 7:12 pm 28 Oct 10

Yeah. Right.

Bull Mastiffs have a long history of wrestling longarms off cops to use against them…

A shotgun would have been much easier for lots of reasons, including the fact they were shooting down a concrete drive with a brick wall at one end.

BerraBoy68 7:44 am 28 Oct 10

CraigT said :

I agree with the shotgun comments. Handguns are crap.

All depends what you want to do and where you want to do it. Handguns are easier to handle and use effectively in a close environment (e.g. in a struggle, in a room etc) and less likely to be taken from you, which is why they’re used by the police and the military in some environments.

Good luck using a long-arm in these situations!

CraigT 10:35 pm 27 Oct 10

I agree with the shotgun comments. Handguns are crap.

Northwest9 7:48 pm 27 Oct 10

Callipo said :

Northwest9 said :

Callipo said :

Northwest9 said :

amarooresident3 said :

Northwest9 said :

so the dog catcher refused to come out… why doesnt that surprise me.

dog catchers become dog catchers because they failed at cop school, some how manage to be too socialy incompetent to even be a bouncer, isnt smart enough or clever enough to be a parking inspector, but because there mothers didnt love them, they need to be in a position of authority, they become the only thing left, a dog catcher.

my wifes 13yo arthritic daschound cross, that is afraid of cats/people/noise/etc, was apparently viciously attacking people.

despite not having left my property (his words), and there was no discussion, i wasnt even allowed to question the charge

Um, the dog catcher did come out if you actually read the story.

you right, i was responding to post #43 but failed to quote him, thus my post about rangers refusing to attend not making sense

however, i do ask, what did the dog catchers achieve in this instance? they managed to corner some pissed off dogs and then call for help, cause they couldnt do the job they are paid to do?

if it requires more than putting fines in mailboxes, they are out of their depth.

First of all you own a Daschund cross, thats probably enough said!!

2. I’ve heard Rangers get paid more than the police.

3. The “dog catchers” kept the dogs from attacking further members of the community by cornering them in (Thats terrible).

4. Rangers don’t carry firearms or OC spray, they carry a pole (WoW!!).

5. What job should of the Rangers carried out Mr expert?? I know, maybe they should of built a rapport with the dogs for a few days,maybe employ a negotiator then invite them over for dinner and take them for a long walk on the beach before taking them to the pound?

I wonder did you get a fine from a Ranger because your crazy Daschound did something wrong?? Probably not as they usually try and educate instead of revenue raising!

Oh by the way it seems that the vicious dogs involved can no longer attack anyone else. I’d call that a great achievement!!!

hello mr ranger,

for the record, the dog belongs to my wife. Its 13 years old, I’ve known my wife for 4 years. Maybe that’s tough for you to grasp, but please do try.

yes, rangers carry a pole, and were unable to use the pole in the manner you were trained in. that’s kind of like a secretary that cant type isn’t it?

paid more than police. woopy do, i hope you spend that 45k wisely.

lets see, what job should the rangers have carried out? i dont know, perhaps catch the dogs, i thought thats what dog catchers did? maybe i was mistaken. like i said, anything more than putting fines in letter boxes and they have to call the police.

the cops must hate helping out those highly paid, yet seemingly incompetent rangers

Response to your thoughtfull response:

1. If i was a Ranger you would probably know about it by now.

2. Get a real dog.

3. What type of training do the Rangers get in using a dog pole. I would be happy to pass on your details to them so they can get some professional training from you and maybe a autograph if they’re lucky.

4. When was the last time you held a job? With your figures (45k) you must of been last employed about 15 years ago.

5. The dogs were caught. I can’t see them running around.

6. I guess your right about the cops not wanting to go out but maybe the big wigs should give the Rangers the appropriate equipment to deal with such things?

This is fun!

1. ooh is that a threat…. hahahha

2. obviously youve never had a woman in your life. “hey hon, i dont like your girly dog, im gunna get rid of it and get a new one” yup, chicks dig that

3. dog catchers not knowing how to use a dog catching pole? explain to me exactly what you do as a dog catcher? other than put fines in mailboxes, considering you dog catchers dont catch dogs. but still happy to sign autographs. anytime.

4. hahaha, im not going to get into income, itll become a cock knocking contest that a dog catcher couldnt even catch, but for the record, ive worked in IT for the last 10 years, and proudly have never been on the dole or been unemployed.

5. caught? i thought they were shot… by cops… doing the dog catchers job???

6. appropriate equipment, like a dog catching pole and some courage?

your right, this is fun

Callipo 6:00 pm 27 Oct 10

Northwest9 said :

Callipo said :

Northwest9 said :

amarooresident3 said :

Northwest9 said :

so the dog catcher refused to come out… why doesnt that surprise me.

dog catchers become dog catchers because they failed at cop school, some how manage to be too socialy incompetent to even be a bouncer, isnt smart enough or clever enough to be a parking inspector, but because there mothers didnt love them, they need to be in a position of authority, they become the only thing left, a dog catcher.

my wifes 13yo arthritic daschound cross, that is afraid of cats/people/noise/etc, was apparently viciously attacking people.

despite not having left my property (his words), and there was no discussion, i wasnt even allowed to question the charge

Um, the dog catcher did come out if you actually read the story.

you right, i was responding to post #43 but failed to quote him, thus my post about rangers refusing to attend not making sense

however, i do ask, what did the dog catchers achieve in this instance? they managed to corner some pissed off dogs and then call for help, cause they couldnt do the job they are paid to do?

if it requires more than putting fines in mailboxes, they are out of their depth.

First of all you own a Daschund cross, thats probably enough said!!

2. I’ve heard Rangers get paid more than the police.

3. The “dog catchers” kept the dogs from attacking further members of the community by cornering them in (Thats terrible).

4. Rangers don’t carry firearms or OC spray, they carry a pole (WoW!!).

5. What job should of the Rangers carried out Mr expert?? I know, maybe they should of built a rapport with the dogs for a few days,maybe employ a negotiator then invite them over for dinner and take them for a long walk on the beach before taking them to the pound?

I wonder did you get a fine from a Ranger because your crazy Daschound did something wrong?? Probably not as they usually try and educate instead of revenue raising!

Oh by the way it seems that the vicious dogs involved can no longer attack anyone else. I’d call that a great achievement!!!

hello mr ranger,

for the record, the dog belongs to my wife. Its 13 years old, I’ve known my wife for 4 years. Maybe that’s tough for you to grasp, but please do try.

yes, rangers carry a pole, and were unable to use the pole in the manner you were trained in. that’s kind of like a secretary that cant type isn’t it?

paid more than police. woopy do, i hope you spend that 45k wisely.

lets see, what job should the rangers have carried out? i dont know, perhaps catch the dogs, i thought thats what dog catchers did? maybe i was mistaken. like i said, anything more than putting fines in letter boxes and they have to call the police.

the cops must hate helping out those highly paid, yet seemingly incompetent rangers

Response to your thoughtfull response:

1. If i was a Ranger you would probably know about it by now.

2. Get a real dog.

3. What type of training do the Rangers get in using a dog pole. I would be happy to pass on your details to them so they can get some professional training from you and maybe a autograph if they’re lucky.

4. When was the last time you held a job? With your figures (45k) you must of been last employed about 15 years ago.

5. The dogs were caught. I can’t see them running around.

6. I guess your right about the cops not wanting to go out but maybe the big wigs should give the Rangers the appropriate equipment to deal with such things?

This is fun!

hrazor 5:34 pm 27 Oct 10

14 bullets for 2 dogs? bloody hell how do they train the cops to shoot? wonder how many bullets it would take to put down a person on drugs?

Spideydog 11:44 am 27 Oct 10

So many “couch side” commentators with no experience in this sort of incident. Pfft

Somethings aren’t what they seem and sometimes not anywhere as easy as they present.

Northwest9 11:30 am 27 Oct 10

p1 said :

makes me wonder if the powers that be are investigating what other options might be added to standard dog catchers bag of tricks.

if it were me investigating, id start equipping them with social skills and personality.

hmmmm 10:59 am 27 Oct 10

I thought that the ‘Ranger’ was in attendance from all the reports??? The DAS ranger- trained to do all things domestic animals including dangerous dogs I would assume?? The other rangers ACT have are parking inspectors- we know what they do- and park rangers who look after our reserves and can catch snakes and possums and also put down injured kangaroos etc from close range with higher powered rifle.. of which used in this case could have potentially caused more damage with riccochet etc.. and sounds like the dogs were moving.. imagine lining a dog up.. at your ankles with a long rifle.. and not knowing where the bullet might end up!!!
Perhaps the DAS ranger should have called in some additional DAS assistance if he/ she could not do the job..

p1 9:53 am 27 Oct 10

I can’t help but wonder if there are any other methods which should have been available to the domestic animal dudes for use in situations like this. Considering that they had the dogs cornered all ready, had they had the necessary materiel on hand, could they have:

Erected some sort of temporary fence or barrier, razor wire, electric fence, etc;
Shot at the mutts using some sort of tranquilliser dart gun or equivalent;
Thrown the dogs food laced with some sort of sedative; or
Deployed spotlights, so the dogs were not in a dark corner of the yard.

I have no idea about the usefulness of these or any other options in this situation, but the end result of general duties police needing to fire their guns repeatedly in a urban environment, makes me wonder if the powers that be are investigating what other options might be added to standard dog catchers bag of tricks.

Northwest9 8:26 am 27 Oct 10

Callipo said :

Northwest9 said :

amarooresident3 said :

Northwest9 said :

so the dog catcher refused to come out… why doesnt that surprise me.

dog catchers become dog catchers because they failed at cop school, some how manage to be too socialy incompetent to even be a bouncer, isnt smart enough or clever enough to be a parking inspector, but because there mothers didnt love them, they need to be in a position of authority, they become the only thing left, a dog catcher.

my wifes 13yo arthritic daschound cross, that is afraid of cats/people/noise/etc, was apparently viciously attacking people.

despite not having left my property (his words), and there was no discussion, i wasnt even allowed to question the charge

Um, the dog catcher did come out if you actually read the story.

you right, i was responding to post #43 but failed to quote him, thus my post about rangers refusing to attend not making sense

however, i do ask, what did the dog catchers achieve in this instance? they managed to corner some pissed off dogs and then call for help, cause they couldnt do the job they are paid to do?

if it requires more than putting fines in mailboxes, they are out of their depth.

First of all you own a Daschund cross, thats probably enough said!!

2. I’ve heard Rangers get paid more than the police.

3. The “dog catchers” kept the dogs from attacking further members of the community by cornering them in (Thats terrible).

4. Rangers don’t carry firearms or OC spray, they carry a pole (WoW!!).

5. What job should of the Rangers carried out Mr expert?? I know, maybe they should of built a rapport with the dogs for a few days,maybe employ a negotiator then invite them over for dinner and take them for a long walk on the beach before taking them to the pound?

I wonder did you get a fine from a Ranger because your crazy Daschound did something wrong?? Probably not as they usually try and educate instead of revenue raising!

Oh by the way it seems that the vicious dogs involved can no longer attack anyone else. I’d call that a great achievement!!!

hello mr ranger,

for the record, the dog belongs to my wife. Its 13 years old, I’ve known my wife for 4 years. Maybe that’s tough for you to grasp, but please do try.

yes, rangers carry a pole, and were unable to use the pole in the manner you were trained in. that’s kind of like a secretary that cant type isn’t it?

paid more than police. woopy do, i hope you spend that 45k wisely.

lets see, what job should the rangers have carried out? i dont know, perhaps catch the dogs, i thought thats what dog catchers did? maybe i was mistaken. like i said, anything more than putting fines in letter boxes and they have to call the police.

the cops must hate helping out those highly paid, yet seemingly incompetent rangers

Thumper 9:51 pm 26 Oct 10

Not quite Mr Hunt, both adgies and GD had enlisted and commissioned. However, the GD component has only recently become, or is becoming, a seperate mustering so it may have been different some ten years ago or so. GD used to be simply General Hand but due to the skills involved, ie minor infantry tactics, crowd control, road blocks, security, etc it has been deemed to need a mustering of its own.

Callipo 8:08 pm 26 Oct 10

Northwest9 said :

amarooresident3 said :

Northwest9 said :

so the dog catcher refused to come out… why doesnt that surprise me.

dog catchers become dog catchers because they failed at cop school, some how manage to be too socialy incompetent to even be a bouncer, isnt smart enough or clever enough to be a parking inspector, but because there mothers didnt love them, they need to be in a position of authority, they become the only thing left, a dog catcher.

my wifes 13yo arthritic daschound cross, that is afraid of cats/people/noise/etc, was apparently viciously attacking people.

despite not having left my property (his words), and there was no discussion, i wasnt even allowed to question the charge

Um, the dog catcher did come out if you actually read the story.

you right, i was responding to post #43 but failed to quote him, thus my post about rangers refusing to attend not making sense

however, i do ask, what did the dog catchers achieve in this instance? they managed to corner some pissed off dogs and then call for help, cause they couldnt do the job they are paid to do?

if it requires more than putting fines in mailboxes, they are out of their depth.

First of all you own a Daschund cross, thats probably enough said!!

2. I’ve heard Rangers get paid more than the police.

3. The “dog catchers” kept the dogs from attacking further members of the community by cornering them in (Thats terrible).

4. Rangers don’t carry firearms or OC spray, they carry a pole (WoW!!).

5. What job should of the Rangers carried out Mr expert?? I know, maybe they should of built a rapport with the dogs for a few days,maybe employ a negotiator then invite them over for dinner and take them for a long walk on the beach before taking them to the pound?

I wonder did you get a fine from a Ranger because your crazy Daschound did something wrong?? Probably not as they usually try and educate instead of revenue raising!

Oh by the way it seems that the vicious dogs involved can no longer attack anyone else. I’d call that a great achievement!!!

Phoenix J 7:42 pm 26 Oct 10

All you people blaming the ranger i hope you are faced with a situation where you have to fend off one or two aggressive dogs by yourself, good luck losers see how you go and don’t both calling the rangers since you are so against them and i can tell you now the police won’t come either! Great job ranger i am all for the work you do as i have witnessed it first hand as you people have come to my assistance before in a similar situation.

Pork Hunt 6:07 pm 26 Oct 10

Thumper said :

Cpt RAAF- Adgie or GD?

From memory, the ADG mustering was for troops and SNCOs and the GD or Ground Defence category for Officers.
I used to be a Framie…

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