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Police Wrap – 23 August 2010

By johnboy 23 August 2010 58

1. Brawling in Civic:

ACT Policing took seven men into custody in the early hours of Sunday morning (August 22) after a disturbance outside a nightclub in Civic involving around 40 people.

Around 4.20am, City Beats Teams conducting routine patrols observed a large number of males punching each other and wielding bottles as weapons in East Row. Police observed bottles used as missiles and impact weapons, resulting in injuries. The men appeared to be heavily affected by alcohol.

Police intervened to restore order and were required to use Oleoresin Capsicum (OC) spray on three of the offenders. One police officer received minor injuries in the melee.

All seven men taken into protective custody at the ACT Watch House for being intoxicated and disorderly were released without charge later in the day.

2. More Rapid Reactions:

ACT Policing detected 22 unregistered vehicles after deploying its RAPID (Recognition and Analysis of Plates Identified) team to seven locations on the weekend.

The RAPID team, together with RTA vehicle inspectors and ACT Rangers, was deployed at Gungahlin Drive at Bruce, Flemington Road at Mitchell, Mugga Lane near the refuse station on Saturday (August 21). On Sunday (August 15) the team was deployed at William Slim Drive at Giralang, Commonwealth Avenue at Acton, Monaro Highway at Symonston, and Parkes Way at Parkes.

Over the weekend, the RAPID team scanned 7639 vehicles, including trailers. Of those scanned, the team detected 22 unregistered vehicles and issued 52 Traffic Infringement Notices (TINs) for a range of offences including one to a motorist for drink driving and seven to motorists for unlicensed driving. RTA inspectors identified 18 defective vehicles and three infringements were issued by the ACT Rangers for uncovered loads.

3. Did you see the Dickson stabbing?

ACT Policing has renewed its call for witnesses to an alleged incident at the Dumpling House restaurant on Monday August 16, in which a man received multiple stab wounds.

A 34-year-old Kambah man has been arrested and is currently remanded in custody. Police have alleged an altercation occurred between two employees in the kitchen area of the restaurant around 9.30pm while they were in the process of closing up for the night.

ACT Policing believe there are a number of witnesses who have yet to speak to police. Police also believe that there were as many as ten people in nearby restaurants and bars, including patrons from an adjacent bar, Sub-Urban, as well as patrons within the Dumpling House restaurant, who may have witnessed the incident.

Police would again urge anyone who may have been in the vicinity around 9.30pm on Monday August 16 who may have seen the incident or can provide any information to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via the website www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.


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Spideydog 4:49 pm 06 Sep 10

buzz819 said :

dvaey said :

buzz819 said :

On a slightly off-topic note, I find it interesting that the same court that will accept a single snapshot of a vehicle speeding, and can hold a vehicle owner responsible with no proof other than a digital photo, yet youre saying they wont accept a CCTV video, showing the actual crime taking place over several minutes.
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You have to realize, a traffic offence is an offence against the territory, state, Commonwealth or Queen, an assault is against the person. If the person gives a statement saying that guy flogged me, you get CCTV showing that guy flogging him, you have a good case, if you have no victim willing to provide a statement you have no victim essentially. You don’t need a victim statement from the Queen saying that someone was speeding.

I might also add that there is a requirement for registered operators of vehicles to identify the driver of the vehicle at the time of the offence, obviously there is no such requirement for assault offences ……

exfed2 3:25 pm 06 Sep 10

Good to see there can still be a bit of humour. No bogan for me though inner or otherwise 🙂 Back on topic Police nationwide for the most part have arguably one of the most demanding and thankless jobs that exsist. For the most part enduring constant abuse and being watched like hawks for when something does go wrong the finger of blame can be pointed guess where?

Next time you see an officer out there doing a great job, approach and offer thanks, congrats whatever for a job well done. You could not even begin to imagine the appreciation that would result from that one action. (Not suggesting hug a cop day or anything :))

My issue is with the systematic corruption, the one off cases where a member decides that due to the fact they are in a senior position that the law does not apply and even if they are called to order there will be a way out because we ‘are the law’

Despite what some say for obvious reasons this behaviour most certainly exsists and to a level that it should not.

Tooks 2:47 pm 06 Sep 10

fgzk said :

tooks…Wrong. I’ve never stated what I do for a living on this site.

Actually I think you have, but you are absolutely right it is of little relevance. Exfed if you cant progress your argument through facts then denigrating people on their occupation is pointless. Unless Tooks is a Bogan. Are you a bogan Tooks?

Pretty sure I haven’t, but it doesn’t matter. The reason I’m not really open about what I do is because my opinions are my own, and are shaped by many of my life experiences (not just work).

As for the bogan question, well…isn’t there a bit of bogan in us all? 😉

Exfed2, my assumption wasn’t just based on your username. Anyway, my point was that assumptions about someone’s employment based on comments on the web, can be off the mark. And yes, feel free to denigrate my inner bogan!

exfed2 12:29 pm 06 Sep 10

fgzk said :

tooks…Wrong. I’ve never stated what I do for a living on this site.

Actually I think you have, but you are absolutely right it is of little relevance. Exfed if you cant progress your argument through facts then denigrating people on their occupation is pointless. Unless Tooks is a Bogan. Are you a bogan Tooks?

Yes fgzk you are right. I have to disagree on the denigrating though as I would assume most AFP recruits would be proud to hold that title including Mr Tooks if that were the case but apparently it is not. I would be interested to hear a response on the bogan question however. Is it OK then to denigrate a bogan? 🙂

exfed2 12:24 pm 06 Sep 10

Tooks said :

exfed2 said :

bigred said :

Tooks, you really have no idea of how this town operates. Are you a sworn member, or merely the janitor at the Winchester centre?

If anything would be a recruit at the college

I could make the assumption you’re an ex-cop with a grudge. Am I close, or – like you’re assumption about me – way off the mark?

Ex-cop……….. just because the username is exfed? There are more jurisdictions within Australia if you chose policing as a career. Assume away Tooks

fgzk 9:40 am 06 Sep 10

tooks…Wrong. I’ve never stated what I do for a living on this site.

Actually I think you have, but you are absolutely right it is of little relevance. Exfed if you cant progress your argument through facts then denigrating people on their occupation is pointless. Unless Tooks is a Bogan. Are you a bogan Tooks?

Tooks 8:38 am 06 Sep 10

exfed2 said :

bigred said :

Tooks, you really have no idea of how this town operates. Are you a sworn member, or merely the janitor at the Winchester centre?

If anything would be a recruit at the college

I could make the assumption you’re an ex-cop with a grudge. Am I close, or – like you’re assumption about me – way off the mark?

Tooks 8:25 am 06 Sep 10

exfed2 said :

bigred said :

Tooks, you really have no idea of how this town operates. Are you a sworn member, or merely the janitor at the Winchester centre?

If anything would be a recruit at the college

Wrong. I’ve never stated what I do for a living on this site and like I’ve said before, what does it matter what my occupation is? I don’t know anyone’s occupation on this site, nor do I care.

buzz819 7:38 am 06 Sep 10

bigred said :

So Tooks sent out for reinforcements. Have they installed free wifi down at the donut shop?

You still haven’t said what job the AFP aren’t doing, come on bigred, you say you’re informed, so tell us? What job is the AFP not doing?

buzz819 7:36 am 06 Sep 10

dvaey said :

buzz819 said :

On a slightly off-topic note, I find it interesting that the same court that will accept a single snapshot of a vehicle speeding, and can hold a vehicle owner responsible with no proof other than a digital photo, yet youre saying they wont accept a CCTV video, showing the actual crime taking place over several minutes.
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You have to realize, a traffic offence is an offence against the territory, state, Commonwealth or Queen, an assault is against the person. If the person gives a statement saying that guy flogged me, you get CCTV showing that guy flogging him, you have a good case, if you have no victim willing to provide a statement you have no victim essentially. You don’t need a victim statement from the Queen saying that someone was speeding.

exfed2 10:08 pm 05 Sep 10

bigred said :

Tooks, you really have no idea of how this town operates. Are you a sworn member, or merely the janitor at the Winchester centre?

If anything would be a recruit at the college

DJ 3:03 pm 01 Sep 10

Bigred,

I would suggest that a little bit of knowledge in this case does not make you informed. If I were to speculate on your empolyment or education – chances are I would be far off the mark.

Anybody can look at the AFP web site, legislation web sites, case law web sites… etc. But until you go out and actually KNOW the ins and outs you’re probably guessing a whole lot about how to enforce the law. There are many reasons charges don’t proceed – you seem intent on always speculating towards the negative.

Do you have a valid point in there somewhere? Probably, but your attitude is letting your argument down. The anger isn’t helping either!

Tooks 10:01 am 01 Sep 10

dvaey said :

buzz819 said :

Here’s something for you dvaey, the courts have said they will not rely solely on CCTV footage as evidence to establish the identity of someone committing a crime.

On a slightly off-topic note, I find it interesting that the same court that will accept a single snapshot of a vehicle speeding, and can hold a vehicle owner responsible with no proof other than a digital photo, yet youre saying they wont accept a CCTV video, showing the actual crime taking place over several minutes.

buzz819 said :

So you have this “guy” whose gotten flogged in the street, he doesn’t want to make a statement, so you’ve got no evidence there, he attends court because he is subpoenaed, does not provide the court with any details, as a result the court finds the “offender” not guilty through lack of evidence. That process takes 6 – 18 months.

Just a thought, but why isnt the police officer who was injured, interested in making a statement? There was a similar story recently when two police officers were assaulted out the front of moosies, and no charges were laid. If even police assault cant/wont be prosecuted in the ACT, its no wonder the thuggies are running rampant.

I agree that assaults on police (and anyone else) should be prosecuted, provided there’s enough evidence of course.

Tooks 9:59 am 01 Sep 10

bigred said :

So Tooks sent out for reinforcements. Have they installed free wifi down at the donut shop?

Haha, you have absolutely nothing, do you? I knew you would ignore my last post and come out with some childish sledging, because you have absolutely no ammunition to back up your claims. Reinforcements? Against you? Laughable.

Fact: You don’t know what I do for a living. You can assume all you like, but your basing your assumptions on the fact I am interested in the justice system and law enforcement and like posting on those topics. Regardless, I don’t post on work computers. Never have, never will.

The fact you like sledging people from behind your monitor without ever posting anything intelligent or constructive, makes you the epitome of internet tough guy/e-thug/troll etc. The fact you are middle-aged makes your comments even more sad and it screams major insecurity and/or self-esteem issues on your part.

dvaey 6:02 am 01 Sep 10

buzz819 said :

Here’s something for you dvaey, the courts have said they will not rely solely on CCTV footage as evidence to establish the identity of someone committing a crime.

On a slightly off-topic note, I find it interesting that the same court that will accept a single snapshot of a vehicle speeding, and can hold a vehicle owner responsible with no proof other than a digital photo, yet youre saying they wont accept a CCTV video, showing the actual crime taking place over several minutes.

buzz819 said :

So you have this “guy” whose gotten flogged in the street, he doesn’t want to make a statement, so you’ve got no evidence there, he attends court because he is subpoenaed, does not provide the court with any details, as a result the court finds the “offender” not guilty through lack of evidence. That process takes 6 – 18 months.

Just a thought, but why isnt the police officer who was injured, interested in making a statement? There was a similar story recently when two police officers were assaulted out the front of moosies, and no charges were laid. If even police assault cant/wont be prosecuted in the ACT, its no wonder the thuggies are running rampant.

bigred 8:52 pm 31 Aug 10

So Tooks sent out for reinforcements. Have they installed free wifi down at the donut shop?

buzz819 7:05 pm 31 Aug 10

bigred said :

SO my observation that the Auditor General might come up with some negative responses if she focussed on the AFP operations has lead the person who posts under the pseudonym of Tooks to assume I am angry. Sorry to quell the imagination – I am just informed. Face facts here, the AFP is engaged to do a job. They don’t do it to the agreed specification.

Well because you can’t tell us what job the AFP aren’t doing, then I’m going to think that you are un-informed.

They meet all the KPI’s set by the ACT Government, they do as much as the court’s will allow them to do.

Is this still about your toy bunny? That bunny’s goooonne!!

bigred 6:49 pm 31 Aug 10

Now be good boys there, get off the station computer and maybe do what you are paid for fellas rather than lurking here waiting to fire your defensive and non constructive comments at any challenges to your usual slothful responses.

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