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Reducing Indigenous over-representation in the justice system

By johnboy - 3 August 2010 144

Yesterday Simon Corbell announced he had signed an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Justice Agreement with the ACT Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Elected Body.

(It might surprise you to learn we have an ACT Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Elected Body, which might have something to do with them managing to put out one media release in the last two and a bit years.)

Chairperson of the ACT Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Elected Body, Terry Williams, said Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people account for 1.2% of ACT residents and approximately 10% of people in the ACT criminal justice system.

“The actions outlined in the agreement demonstrate an ongoing commitment in the ACT to address the over-representation of our people in the criminal justice system, and brings together the efforts of ACT Government agencies and the local Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community to get serious and do something about it,” Mr Williams said.

Efforts in health, housing, education and employment are intended to address this issue.

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Reducing Indigenous over-representation in the justice system
Captain RAAF 1:17 pm 03 Aug 10

Jim, them’s the facts! I’ve dealt with law abiding indiginous individuals with access to all the great things this country provides, from seemingly upright families intent on fitting in yet, invariably, I would end up at thier house because little Nigel has stolen a car, smashed a window, raped a girl, assaulted someone and each and every time, at some point of the whole sorry affair they will say the same thing;

“You only grab me cos’ I’m a black man” or “Wouldn’t be here if I was white!”

Rubbish, your’e here because your a criminal, makes no difference to me, I’ll lock anyone up, with equal treatment and disdain for thier place in society that they alone have chosen!

It’s called accountability, it applies to all of us regardless of our upbringing. If the over represented indiginous in our Justice system had no concept of right or wrong then yes, I’d grant them a significant measure of understanding and tolerance, but they know what they’ve done and that’s why they are where they are.

LMR 1:15 pm 03 Aug 10

+1 Captain RAAF

sepi 1:03 pm 03 Aug 10

And it is very much the government’s role to investigate these issues and try to do something about it.

If enormous numbers of people with red hair were filling the prisons, or half the suburb of waramanga, for no apparent reason, we would expect the govt to do a bit of research into the reason why, and try to prevent the trend continuing.

Some people are just criminal, and nothing can be done, but in many cases, people could have chosen a better path, and lived a better life, and it would save us all money and heartache if these people’s lives were improved and they stayed out of gaol.

Pork Hunt 12:56 pm 03 Aug 10

What would happen if the term

“Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander”

was removed from all Government forms, guidelines, statute books and statistics etc etc ?

Would the world stop turning?

Or should all nationalities/races from Afrikaner to Zulu be added to the above?

Jim Jones 12:45 pm 03 Aug 10

Captain RAAF said :

Katherine Police Station, when I was there in the late 90’s, 95% of all criminal activity was committed by Aborinal people. Prior to that, and since, millions upon millions of dollars were thrown at these people via grants, handouts and programs and they just tossed it back in the faces of those that would seek to do these people good!

As a wise old man once said, you can’t f*#k sense into a statue! While the aborigine continues to walk around with that monumental chip on their shoulder because Australia was ‘invaded’ over 200 years ago and ‘them whites done steal ma land an dat’, they will never accept the white mans law, that’s why they will always be over represented in the justice system because they don’t give a toss about our rules.

I expected that from you. Ignorance and bigotry are so much easier than research and independent thought.

Jim Jones 12:42 pm 03 Aug 10

And here are some stats that demonstrate that, yes, race very much has a hell of a lot to do with it:

http://www.johnwalkercrimetrendsanalysis.com.au/Indigenous.htm

colourful sydney rac 12:38 pm 03 Aug 10

ConanOfCooma said :

Jim Jones said :

Waiting For Godot said :

Don’t you just love the orthodoxy of right wing groupthink: “Aboriginals are all lazy criminals” – so much easier than thought and analysis (let alone trying to fix any ‘problem’).

Wow, you sure showed him, with your constructive criticism and infallible solutions. We need people like you running the country! Oh wait…

The specific individuals are in gaol for a specific reason, race has nothing to do with it. If the government has issues with the population of ethnic levels in the system, perhaps they should stop tallying them by the colour of their skin?

Yes, because we are all on a level playing field aren’t we? If you did any research, which as a troll you won’t, you would notice that coming from a disadvantaged background is a predeterminate for criminal beahviour.

Jim Jones 12:35 pm 03 Aug 10

To start you off: if race has ‘nothing to do with it’ as you say, then why are *all* indigenous populations of the world overrepresented in prison populations?

Jim Jones 12:34 pm 03 Aug 10

ConanOfCooma said :

The specific individuals are in gaol for a specific reason, race has nothing to do with it.

Dude – if you took the time to do the barest amount of reading on racial representation in prison populations then you wouldn’t be making that statement.

There’s buckets of research waiting to be read: from an Australian perspective, from American perspectives (on both Native American and African American over-represenation), from New Zealand … hell, even Japan has research on this (the Ainu).

Go have a look. This whole ‘people are in gaol just because they’re bad people and race has nothing to do with it’ schtick is the territory of illiterate right-wing radio hosts.

Captain RAAF 12:34 pm 03 Aug 10

Katherine Police Station, when I was there in the late 90’s, 95% of all criminal activity was committed by Aborinal people. Prior to that, and since, millions upon millions of dollars were thrown at these people via grants, handouts and programs and they just tossed it back in the faces of those that would seek to do these people good!

As a wise old man once said, you can’t f*#k sense into a statue! While the aborigine continues to walk around with that monumental chip on their shoulder because Australia was ‘invaded’ over 200 years ago and ‘them whites done steal ma land an dat’, they will never accept the white mans law, that’s why they will always be over represented in the justice system because they don’t give a toss about our rules.

ConanOfCooma 12:27 pm 03 Aug 10

Jim Jones said :

Waiting For Godot said :

Don’t you just love the orthodoxy of right wing groupthink: “Aboriginals are all lazy criminals” – so much easier than thought and analysis (let alone trying to fix any ‘problem’).

Wow, you sure showed him, with your constructive criticism and infallible solutions. We need people like you running the country! Oh wait…

The specific individuals are in gaol for a specific reason, race has nothing to do with it. If the government has issues with the population of ethnic levels in the system, perhaps they should stop tallying them by the colour of their skin?

Jim Jones 12:06 pm 03 Aug 10

Waiting For Godot said :

Don’t you just love the orthodoxy of left wing political correctness? There are aborigines in jail so that’s the result of police and the justice system discriminating against aborigines. Either that or it’s the result of white oppression or having their land taken off them. Maybe it has something to do with aborigines deliberately choosing to commit crimes out of proportion to everybody else, as well as hanging out with gangs and other low lifes, and refusing to assimilate into the wider community. But we’re not allowed to say that, are we?

Don’t you just love the orthodoxy of right wing groupthink: “Aboriginals are all lazy criminals” – so much easier than thought and analysis (let alone trying to fix any ‘problem’).

Waiting For Godot 11:59 am 03 Aug 10

Don’t you just love the orthodoxy of left wing political correctness? There are aborigines in jail so that’s the result of police and the justice system discriminating against aborigines. Either that or it’s the result of white oppression or having their land taken off them. Maybe it has something to do with aborigines deliberately choosing to commit crimes out of proportion to everybody else, as well as hanging out with gangs and other low lifes, and refusing to assimilate into the wider community. But we’re not allowed to say that, are we?

The Nexus 11:42 am 03 Aug 10

that’s part of the idea… it takes in to account the underlying cause of criminal behavior

buzz819 11:37 am 03 Aug 10

Isn’t the best way for them to stop being “over represented” in the justice system, having them stop committing crimes? I dunno, seems like the best way to go about it to me?

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