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By Grail 28 October 2009 36

My fellow Canberrans,

The roadworks speed limit on Glenloch Interchange is 40km/h. Please observe it, before you end up killing someone. Visibility is poor and there is heavy earthmoving equipment involved. In an accident involving your shiny SUV versus a scraper or grader, the big yellow thing built out of solid steel is not going to lose.

Could you also please pick a lane and stick to it. The less lane-changing happens through a roadworks, the less opportunity there is for mistakes to happen. The last place we want an accident is in the middle of the Glenlock Interchange roadworks, since that would block off the road in a place where there is very little option to go around – single lanes with narrow/soft shoulders is not a good place for a pileup.

This morning while travelling through the roadworks on the way to work I was overtaken by two people doing somewhere in the vicinity of 80-100km/h, who engaged in tailgating & cutting in, just to get through the intersection about 10 seconds faster than everyone else. The result was people stepping on the brakes and causing traffic to come to a complete halt a few cars back.

Please be considerate of other drivers – they’re people too. Pick a lane, stick to it. I appreciate the enthusiasm that some folk have to get to their favourite place in all the world, but if you just drive to the conditions and try to drive predictably, we’ll all get to work more relaxed and ready to enjoy a productive day of paper shuffling, retailing or whatever it is you’re in such a rush to get to.

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James-T-Kirk 1:07 pm 11 Nov 09

It is sad that we didn’t recover costs from those “Save the ridge” cretins……

patrick_keogh 10:02 am 10 Nov 09

The reason the GDE is having to be built in stages is that there were delays and cost increases due to two factors:
– the federal government “adding value” to the planning process
– the Save the Ridge ultimately fruitless legal battle to prevent the GDE beeing built (when all they had to do was swap houses with the Gunghalin residents so that both groups would have gotten what they wanted).

Granny 4:13 pm 02 Nov 09

Sgt.Bungers said :

Unfortunately RTA’s and Councils all over Aus are slap happy with erecting reduced speed limits and expect drivers to simply follow them. Not so simple nor safe to be the only one doing 40km/h on a road designed for a safe speed of 80-110km/h+, when the only sign of road works are red cones along the nature strip.

I totally agree, Sgt.Bungers. It just sets those people wanting to do the right thing up for a loss. Why can’t they use their brains and common sense when deciding such issues? It would be so much better for everyone, especially the road workers and their families.

Sgt.Bungers 9:27 am 02 Nov 09

Unfortunately RTA’s and Councils all over Aus are slap happy with erecting reduced speed limits and expect drivers to simply follow them. Not so simple nor safe to be the only one doing 40km/h on a road designed for a safe speed of 80-110km/h+, when the only sign of road works are red cones along the nature strip.

Slowing down is only “frustrating” when there’s no apparent need to do so. Put a 40km/h speed limit up when a sealed road has been torn up leaving a base of clay and pot holes, and it’s pretty certain most people will do 40km/h without hesitation. Put a 40km/h speed limit in place 500 metres before some workmen planting flowers on the nature strip (Canberra Ave Friday) and everyone will think it’s a joke… particularly when there’s “end roadwork” sign erected, so legally drivers must remain at 40km/h for the next Xkm until they pass a normal speed limit sign.

Of course the problem with simply ignoring road work speed limits when it looks safe to do so, is one day you’ll be doing 80+ in a 40 zone, to come over the crest of a hill and slam into the back of a stopped tipper truck, resulting in a broken back and being fed through a tube for the rest of your life.

Personally, if I’m unfamiliar with the roadwork situation, I will always slow to the marked speed limit for its entire length. If I am familiar with it I will slow as necessary. If there are workmen present, I always slow to the posted roadwork limit.

watto23 2:13 pm 30 Oct 09

We need laws and we need common sense.

The tharwa drive duplication was a classic example of having 40km/h speed limits up for about 2 weeks when it was completed. Lines were marked and railings erected. For the residents down there it must have been frustrating. I even saw at least 3 cops drive at 80 down the road and when other cars saw it they sped up and matched there speed and the cops were happy. Probably because common sense dictated that it was quite safe and appropriate to drive at 80 on the road now.

Generally its laziness and bureaucratic paper work that cause this.

I’d also like to point out that while speeding is never safe, and cause a lot of accidents, there are so many other reasons why a person is speeding. Perhaps if we sort those out we’ll have less people speeding.

Being a good two shoes on this forum tends to suggest to me you are the sort of driver that thinks they are driving safely and cautiously but really have no idea about whats going on around them while driving. Things like giving 3 car lengths is great but if you sit in a blind spot thats unsafe, yet i’ve had so many “self proclaiming safe drivers” tell me they don’t see the issue. Its not illegal to change lanes. Often it does help traffic flow as well, sometimes it doesn’t.

Ceej1973 2:02 pm 30 Oct 09

icantbelieveitsnotbutter said :

If you don’t like it… catch the bus?

I catch buses thru GI, and they too ignor the road rules!

Onceler 1:11 pm 30 Oct 09

Trog08 wrote:

“Alernatively, The people who planned that road could have gotten it right the first time and made it duel carriageway before they opened it and we wouldn’t be in this mess.”

Unfortunately it already seems to be a “duel” carriageway…

dvaey 12:51 pm 30 Oct 09

Deckard said :

The M5/M7 merging together into the Hume Hwy in Sydney works pretty well. You just need really long slip lanes and stagger the merges over a KM or 2. 4 lanes down to 3, down to 2 etc.

The last time I drove to Sydney, they had expanded the M5 south of the M5/M7 junction to 6-8 lanes each way, simply to accomodate the fact that so many lanes merge and theres no other option to beat congestion.

Check out this wikipedia article about the problems that were faced with congestion at M5/M7 onto the Hume, and it sounds like Sydneys own GDE.

switch 9:32 am 30 Oct 09

Deckard said :

Maybe they should just make Parkes Way a 3 lane road each way.

No, then there would be this extra lane sitting there defying them. They would just HAVE to paint it green and make it a bike lane.

Deckard 9:07 pm 29 Oct 09

Sorry, mucked up the quotes.

I said:

The M5/M7 merging together into the Hume Hwy in Sydney works pretty well. You just need really long slip lanes and stagger the merges over a KM or 2. 4 lanes down to 3, down to 2 etc.

By the time you’ve merged on Parkes way though you’ll be in Civic. Maybe they should just make Parkes Way a 3 lane road each way.

Deckard 9:04 pm 29 Oct 09

dvaey said :

bd84 said :

The thing is, the Tuggeranong Parkway and Parkes Way are both dual lane, so there must be a merge there of some sort, in order to get 4 lanes down to 2. Just how this could be achieved, Im not sure, but I havent seen any proposals that would really fix the problem completely, and not simply shuffle the problem up or down the road a little further.

The M5/M7 merging together into the Hume Hwy in Sydney works pretty well. You just need really long slip lanes and stagger the merges over a KM or 2. 4 lanes down to 3, down to 2 etc.

By the time you’ve merged on Parkes way though you’ll be in Civic. Maybe they should just make Parkes Way a 3 lane road each way.

dvaey 8:13 pm 29 Oct 09

bd84 said :

dvaey said :

Im also wondering why theyre doing work around Glenloch?

The traffic problems are mostly a problem going southbound (nobody wants to go to Gungahlin). The major bottlenecks of the Gungahlinites escaping from the darkside to go to work and are a result of the traffic attempting to merge at the Glenloch Interchange. They’re fixing up the Glenloch bridges southbound to duplicate the existing lanes and remove the merge.

The thing is, the Tuggeranong Parkway and Parkes Way are both dual lane, so there must be a merge there of some sort, in order to get 4 lanes down to 2. Just how this could be achieved, Im not sure, but I havent seen any proposals that would really fix the problem completely, and not simply shuffle the problem up or down the road a little further.

Thoroughly Smashed 6:31 pm 29 Oct 09

f300 said :

I meant the OP 😉

I know you did, I simply helped you target your outburst at the right people.

f300 4:53 pm 29 Oct 09

Thoroughly Smashed said :

f300 said :

What a toolbeater

I agree, people who flout roadwork speed limits certainly are.

There’s a perverse pleasure to be taken from the facial expressions of these “entitled” people who follow you through roadworks at the speed limit, millimetres from your rear bumper.

I meant the OP 😉

Mr Evil 2:29 pm 29 Oct 09

Trog08 said :

Alernatively, The people who planned that road could have gotten it right the first time and made it duel carriageway before they opened it and we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Don’t be so ridiculous. Everyone knows it is far more economical to do the job piecemeal, and then take 10 goes at it to finally get it right – it’s just plain commonsense.

The ACT Government: spending your tax money wisely – next time – maybe!

Trog08 1:30 pm 29 Oct 09

Alernatively, The people who planned that road could have gotten it right the first time and made it duel carriageway before they opened it and we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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