Saving the planet one tax at a time

johnboy 19 October 2009 44

The ABC informs us that the Chiefly Stanhope is quite keen on adding a toll to your daily commute:

Mr Stanhope says a congestion charge is worth considering.

“I would be interested in any conversation around what we can do to encourage people to use public transport,” he said.

You could try running decent weekend services so we don’t need to run a car anyway you blockhead.


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H1NG0 H1NG0 8:52 am 21 Oct 09

That may be, but why do they defend Stanhopes blantantly ridiculous ideas? Closing Schools? Congestion Tax? These kind of things should never be supported by Canberra residents. If he thinks Canberra is congested then maybe he shouldn’t have stinged on the GDE.

jase! jase! 5:13 pm 20 Oct 09

H1NG0 said :

…and the labor stooge award goes to….

YOUAMI!!

have to say you are wrong, youami may be many things but i very much doubt he would ever be a labor voter.

Jase – youami’s flatmate

arescarti42 arescarti42 3:55 pm 20 Oct 09

Up The Duffy said :

Hows this going to help WORKING FAMILIES that have to drop there children of at school on the way to work????????????????????????????????????????? Seeing that it was his Government that closed a heap of Schools down.

At the moment trying to do business in Civic is a pain because there is no short term parking. So Solicitors, and Accountants move their Offices to Fyshwick so people can use there services!!!! MAKING THE CARBON FOOTPRINT EVEN BIGGER because you have to drive out there to do business. Oh then there is the Offices at the Airport, Don,t get me STARTED.

Town planning while on drugs. How else did we end up with this mess.

Then theres Government offices in satellite cities Belco, Woden, and Tugger. Try living on the north side and work in Tugger, then get a promotion to a job at the airport. Then we should all use public transport!! or ride a bike 60km round trip every day,

Oh whoops forgot about the kids and getting them to school too.

Ha! “Working Families”. Pretty sure they are a myth. Nice rant!

Up The Duffy Up The Duffy 2:30 pm 20 Oct 09

“Youami” From the Newtown in Sydney actually, Campbell St had 12 buses and 5 trains every 1/2 hour to choose from. Move back there tomorrow if I could afford to. And my SUV took up 2 parking spots too.

H1NG0 H1NG0 12:19 pm 20 Oct 09

…and the labor stooge award goes to….

YOUAMI!!

housebound housebound 11:55 am 20 Oct 09

Rants from all directions on this thread. Hilarious.

Oh, and school closures just keep coming back to haunt Barr and Stanhope. Also hilarious, since the election was supposed to kill off any residual resistance.

Clown Killer – for once I agree with you – we keep electing that Labor government back regardless of what they do. (By the way – who is the Canberra Action Party?)

And this was a thread about yet another tax. Hilarious again.

S4anta S4anta 11:47 am 20 Oct 09

And all this chaos and yabbering without realising that Stanhope was spitballing, and basically saying that he would consider anything that may gat more cars off the road, and people into public tranpsort. Whining at the ACT government for passing on a commonwelath initiated levy will do SFA in long run.

Focus your opining at the meatheads in the commonwealth agency that will try to push this one up.

Clown Killer Clown Killer 11:22 am 20 Oct 09

I’m sure you’ll show them this time. Unlike last time. And the time before that.

You’ve nailed it WMC. Everyone likes to bleat on and on about how Labor are going to get it next time – and then surprise, surprise we elect another Labor government. Nothings changing any time soon, not while the swivel-eyed loons at the Canberra Action Party actively work to make sure that Labor and the Greens form governement

remmi2 remmi2 9:05 am 20 Oct 09

Stanhope is crying poor. He’s desperate for any cash he can get his hands on.

A “congestion” tax is beyond desperate.

youami youami 8:44 am 20 Oct 09

Up The Duffy said :

Hows this going to help WORKING FAMILIES that have to drop there children of at school on the way to work????????????????????????????????????????? Seeing that it was his Government that closed a heap of Schools down.

At the moment trying to do business in Civic is a pain because there is no short term parking. So Solicitors, and Accountants move their Offices to Fyshwick so people can use there services!!!! MAKING THE CARBON FOOTPRINT EVEN BIGGER because you have to drive out there to do business. Oh then there is the Offices at the Airport, Don,t get me STARTED.

Town planning while on drugs. How else did we end up with this mess.

Then theres Government offices in satellite cities Belco, Woden, and Tugger. Try living on the north side and work in Tugger, then get a promotion to a job at the airport. Then we should all use public transport!! or ride a bike 60km round trip every day,

Oh whoops forgot about the kids and getting them to school too.

Up The Duffy said :

“Youami” all my neighbors with be dead in ten years time (Canberra hospital will kill them off) Young family’s will replace them, and they will need schools. They don,t want to have to drive to the ends of the earth to drop their kids of at a super school, and them on to work to be TAXED for it.

One thing is for certain TAXES and DEATH.

From both your rants, it shows you most likely haven’t lived outside of the ACT. Canberrans travel less distance in less time than most other cities I have visited even Wollongong and Newcastle let alone Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane. If you take for granted you are being spoilt in this city with high-quality roads you will continue to whinge when things don’t go your way. What ever happened to letting kids walk to school or catch a school bus? Harden them up perhaps rather than pamper them in your RV or 4WD? I walked and caught a bus when I was a kid when my closest school was 4km from home when I lived in the Blue Mountains. I walked and caught a train to high school, distance of 11km total, and that was in Sydney. And who is going to pay for things you expect for free if we don’t have taxes?

*shake shake* now back to reality: public transport should be treated like any other public utility and infrastructure system, such as power and water and garbage collection etc. You need to pay for the service because it costs money to run, but agree there must be a quality of service to entice. Public transport shouldn’t, at least in the city precinct, use the same roads or right-of-way as cars. Public transport shouldn’t need to cater for every back street and corner or stop every 200m. Public transport is not necessarily about convenience, it is about getting people from collection point A to collection point B. Make the system work and then and only then consider if there is a congestion problem that needs to be taxed (which I still would doubt).

Up The Duffy Up The Duffy 12:46 am 20 Oct 09

“Youami” all my neighbors with be dead in ten years time (Canberra hospital will kill them off) Young family’s will replace them, and they will need schools. They don,t want to have to drive to the ends of the earth to drop their kids of at a super school, and them on to work to be TAXED for it.

One thing is for certain TAXES and DEATH.

davidm55 davidm55 12:10 am 20 Oct 09

I’ll be a conspiracy theorist and point out that, according to this page (http://the-riotact.com/?p=1000) “Greg Friedewald” was/is John Stanhope’s cheif media advisor; and Liz Clarke is Mr Friedewald’s wife.

Who on Earth is Liz Clarke? Well, it turns out, Liz Clarke is a senior manager at ACTION http://www.linkedin.com/pub/liz-clarke/8/785/54A.

So, we’ve got a chief minister telling us to catch buses, which are managed by the wife of Stanhopes political advisor.

Boy, it’s like old Soviet Russia in this city.

youami youami 11:08 pm 19 Oct 09

emd said :

Bring on the next election so I can let the ACT ALP know what I think!

First they close the only public school within walking distance.
Then they make our new priority area school two suburbs south, when most parents in our suburb work north. And there’s only one way bus service with threats to stop it altogether.
They’ve also raised parking prices in the city for workers who don’t catch the bus or carpool.
So now that they’ve put many parents in my suburb in the position of having to drive their kids to school every day, they want to introduce an additional tax for the privilege.

Schools closed? This is a post about a congestion tax… but if you insist on ranting about it: the population of Canberra is a dynamic population and like any other city population moves. The schools were closed because they weren’t needed! Simple! No one ever mentions the new schools built in the new suburbs. Get over it!

As for congestion tax, there needs to be congestion first as so many rightly comment. And you need to build the public transport system before you can force people to use it. Even if it means making dedicated bus-lanes in lieu of light rail (say put two bus lanes in the middle of Northbourne Ave where the light rail would go).

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 9:28 pm 19 Oct 09

Bring on the next election so I can let the ACT ALP know what I think!

I’m sure you’ll show them this time. Unlike last time. And the time before that.

dvaey dvaey 8:38 pm 19 Oct 09

emd said :

Bring on the next election so I can let the ACT ALP know what I think!
First they close the only public school within walking distance.

For those with short memory, the last election was 18th October last year, only 12 months ago.
The schools decision was announced in the 2006 budget.

TP 3000 TP 3000 8:04 pm 19 Oct 09

emd said :

And there’s only one way bus service with threats to stop it altogether.

I’ve got to ask what bus service is this & who is threatening to stop it all togetehr

emd emd 7:56 pm 19 Oct 09

Bring on the next election so I can let the ACT ALP know what I think!

First they close the only public school within walking distance.
Then they make our new priority area school two suburbs south, when most parents in our suburb work north. And there’s only one way bus service with threats to stop it altogether.
They’ve also raised parking prices in the city for workers who don’t catch the bus or carpool.
So now that they’ve put many parents in my suburb in the position of having to drive their kids to school every day, they want to introduce an additional tax for the privilege.

Primal Primal 6:47 pm 19 Oct 09

Only if he promises to start centralising business in Civic rather than this unhelpful effort to push places of business out to the town centres.

dr phil dr phil 5:55 pm 19 Oct 09

THEY SO WANT THIS TOWN TO BE LIKE SYDNEY!!!!

I have had this donkey and his mates, this used to be such a nice country town.

To the hell with them, This guy makes the problem then wants every one else to pay for it, maybe he should run for Prime Minister, he has the experience and he fits in………

housebound housebound 5:26 pm 19 Oct 09

Up The Duffy said :

Town planning while on drugs. How else did we end up with this mess.

Best analysis yet of the competency of ACT Government in general.

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