School Zone Flashers

MOCS 25 July 2013 48

When approaching a school zone this morning I was in no doubt that it was being monitored by radar bearing police as I had three cars in a row flash their headlights at me. While I’m all for sticking it to the establishment I still have to wonder about the thought process of these rebel flashers. Now either they were warning me in case I was someone who purposely speeds through school zones or someone who doesn’t pay enough attention to notice school zones. Now personally I’d prefer those who fit either of these categories to be caught in the hope that they then cease speeding through schools zones but that point of view may be a bit bias as I’m not a moron…


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joingler joingler 7:32 pm 26 Jul 13

I think that I read the title wrong

Innovation Innovation 6:20 pm 26 Jul 13

I wish MonarchRepublic or JC had been booked and taken it to court. “And why were you speeding officer?” Police: “To get to an emergency – which wasn’t so urgent that I couldn’t take time out to book someone.

As for flashing, I don’t think it should be done to warn others of speed cameras. It might save a life on that one occasion but only a penalty will deter someone from driving more responsibly all of the time (which has a greater chance of saving more lives).

It’s a pity too that Police at speed traps don’t set up a second patrol further down the road to pull over any drivers flashing.

Personally I do flash my lights when someone has caused me to take evasive action (although I doubt many of them ever look in their rear view mirror) but not when someone is simply driving dangerously.

MonarchRepublic MonarchRepublic 4:04 pm 26 Jul 13

JC said :

Mothy said :

Saw an amazing number of numpties in the Gungahlin region getting about today with no headlights despite pea-soup fog at that time of morning this morning.

Were you:

1. In Gungahlin
2. Driving without headlights

If so, guilty.

Speed cameras I won’t flash for. Lights yes.

Be careful who you flashed. A few weeks ago in poor visibility (heavy rain at 4:40pm) I flashed this dick head who overtook, then cut me off on Commonwealth Ave heading down onto the London CCT offramp. Turns out the Silver Aurion I flashed was an unmarked police car, who then pulled me over.

I didn’t cop a fine but did cop a warning about how stupid and dangerous it is to flash and why I was so agro. At the end of the lecture I pointed out I wasn’t actually agro, I just couldn’t believe someone was stupid enough to drive in heavy rain at dusk without their lights on and overtake not leaving me a safe braking distance. His answer to the lights was they were on auto and if they weren’t on then it wasn’t dark enough to warrant their use. He didn’t answer why he didn’t leave me a safe distance though.

And yep I tell the truth this did come from a copper. So watch out for Silver Aurions if you are going to flash.

I had a similar thing happen a couple of months back. Flashed a black SUV undertaking at speed in the bus lane. Turned out to be a cop in a hurry, but with time to talk to me. Fair point made though – if he was aggro on the road, he might have been aggro with my face if he was the wrong sort of person. Exactly the reason I dont flash lights at dicks on the road normally anyhow!

MonarchRepublic MonarchRepublic 3:53 pm 26 Jul 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Anyone who warns others who are speeding that there is a camera or police ahead is a POS

Rarely would I agree with you, but this is one of those rare situations. 100%

bundah bundah 2:23 pm 26 Jul 13

Pitchka said :

bundah said :

Pitchka said :

I always flash people when there is a speed camera and/or a cop doing radar speed checking..

I respect everyones right to drive as fast as they want without being pulled over by a party pooper.. My cars speedo says it can do 260km/h, im sceptical, therefore i have a right to ensure i got what i paid for.

I wont pull over if directed until i have reached my objective.

Now that i’d like to see.Will the stretch of the Monaro Hwy say between Hume and Fyshwick at say 3am be ok for a test run?

Hmm, 3am. Perhaps a few too many marcupials out and about at that time, can we reschedule after the much needed kangaroo cull?

Nah let’s just just attach a roo bar and make a few fast runs up and down the Monaro.That’ll sort out those pesky marsupials!

Basilbrush Basilbrush 2:08 pm 26 Jul 13

bundah said :

I’m all for selective flashing providing the flasher is easy on the eye 🙂

+1

Solidarity Solidarity 1:01 pm 26 Jul 13

I flash people to warn them of speed cameras all of the time. I also stick my middle finger up at them.

Pitchka Pitchka 11:57 am 26 Jul 13

bundah said :

Pitchka said :

I always flash people when there is a speed camera and/or a cop doing radar speed checking..

I respect everyones right to drive as fast as they want without being pulled over by a party pooper.. My cars speedo says it can do 260km/h, im sceptical, therefore i have a right to ensure i got what i paid for.

I wont pull over if directed until i have reached my objective.

Now that i’d like to see.Will the stretch of the Monaro Hwy say between Hume and Fyshwick at say 3am be ok for a test run?

Hmm, 3am. Perhaps a few too many marcupials out and about at that time, can we reschedule after the much needed kangaroo cull?

watto23 watto23 11:22 am 26 Jul 13

Well they could put speed cameras up around schools. IMO that would provide a safer environment instead of on 80 and 100 km/h roads, which in general are posted at a speed lower than what would be safe.
An accident on a road at 89km/h could injure or kill someone, just like one at 80km/h on the same road.
An accident involving a child at 50 or 60 km/h means instant death. at 40 the chance of stopping is increased, although hitting a child at 40 would probably still kill them. So instead of wasting money on point to point cameras, they could put them in school zones… that is if they really are concerned about childrens safety.

I’m also thinking CCTV at roundabouts would be far better safety wise than speed cameras. If someone drives like an idiot on a roundabout, another driver can refer the time and location and then they can check the CCTV footage, confirm someone was driving like an idiot and send them a fine.

Watson Watson 10:30 am 26 Jul 13

goggles13 said :

in relation to flashing lights being dangerous, what a load of toss. it can be used as a form of polite communication – like I did last weekend on the Hume Highway near Goulburn when I flashed a truck to move in front of me in the right lane so it could pass a slower car in the right lane.

+1 I do this all the time to let people know I’m letting them merge in ahead of me.

bundah bundah 10:18 am 26 Jul 13

Pitchka said :

I always flash people when there is a speed camera and/or a cop doing radar speed checking..

I respect everyones right to drive as fast as they want without being pulled over by a party pooper.. My cars speedo says it can do 260km/h, im sceptical, therefore i have a right to ensure i got what i paid for.

I wont pull over if directed until i have reached my objective.

Now that i’d like to see.Will the stretch of the Monaro Hwy say between Hume and Fyshwick at say 3am be ok for a test run?

MOCS MOCS 9:44 am 26 Jul 13

Grimm said :

I travel through 3 school zones every day going both to and from work, but amazingly am yet to see a single speed camera in the school zones. Find a piece of divided, 2 lane either way road with an 80 or over speed limit, and that’s where the speed camera will be. When that changes, I may buy into these things being for anything but revenue raising.

I like to think of Speed Cameras as taxing the stupid as there is no other explanation for it. The only way to be caught by these things is to be not paying attention to the road ahead while speeding thus;

Speeding + Inattentiveness = Stupid

Pitchka Pitchka 9:37 am 26 Jul 13

I always flash people when there is a speed camera and/or a cop doing radar speed checking..

I respect everyones right to drive as fast as they want without being pulled over by a party pooper.. My cars speedo says it can do 260km/h, im sceptical, therefore i have a right to ensure i got what i paid for.

I wont pull over if directed until i have reached my objective.

MOCS MOCS 9:34 am 26 Jul 13

Solidarity said :

You sound like a really fun person.

Really fun people have more going on in their lives than to be posting on TheRiotAct…

magiccar9 magiccar9 9:24 am 26 Jul 13

JC said :

Be careful who you flashed. A few weeks ago in poor visibility (heavy rain at 4:40pm) I flashed this dick head who overtook, then cut me off on Commonwealth Ave heading down onto the London CCT offramp. Turns out the Silver Aurion I flashed was an unmarked police car, who then pulled me over.

I didn’t cop a fine but did cop a warning about how stupid and dangerous it is to flash and why I was so agro. At the end of the lecture I pointed out I wasn’t actually agro, I just couldn’t believe someone was stupid enough to drive in heavy rain at dusk without their lights on and overtake not leaving me a safe braking distance. His answer to the lights was they were on auto and if they weren’t on then it wasn’t dark enough to warrant their use. He didn’t answer why he didn’t leave me a safe distance though.

And yep I tell the truth this did come from a copper. So watch out for Silver Aurions if you are going to flash.

I love your comment! Shows the attitude and double standards that exists within the local Police and AFP. The fact that he used ‘auto-headlights’ as his excuse is absolute crap. I haven’t found a car that has auto lights that don’t come on in heavy rain, or at that time of day. The onus is also on him, as I believe somewhere in the ARR it states something about having your lights on (or being visible) in hazardous conditions (not 100% sure though). But you know if you had reminded him of such a fact he would come down on you as hard as he could.

The same goes for speeding – all too often I’ve followed Police vehicles casually sitting about 10-15km/h over the limit for no reason. But again, if you were to sit along side them, or pass them they’d book you for speeding.

It’s absolute rubbish with the enforcement of rules around here. There always seems to be two or three different standards that change to suit those enforcing them.

goggles13 goggles13 6:53 am 26 Jul 13

JC said :

Mothy said :

Saw an amazing number of numpties in the Gungahlin region getting about today with no headlights despite pea-soup fog at that time of morning this morning.

Were you:

1. In Gungahlin
2. Driving without headlights

If so, guilty.

Speed cameras I won’t flash for. Lights yes.

Be careful who you flashed. A few weeks ago in poor visibility (heavy rain at 4:40pm) I flashed this dick head who overtook, then cut me off on Commonwealth Ave heading down onto the London CCT offramp. Turns out the Silver Aurion I flashed was an unmarked police car, who then pulled me over.

I didn’t cop a fine but did cop a warning about how stupid and dangerous it is to flash and why I was so agro. At the end of the lecture I pointed out I wasn’t actually agro, I just couldn’t believe someone was stupid enough to drive in heavy rain at dusk without their lights on and overtake not leaving me a safe braking distance. His answer to the lights was they were on auto and if they weren’t on then it wasn’t dark enough to warrant their use. He didn’t answer why he didn’t leave me a safe distance though.

And yep I tell the truth this did come from a copper. So watch out for Silver Aurions if you are going to flash.

the cop in the Aurion sounds like a tosser.

my lights have an auto mode as well, and there are occasions where they don’t come on in low visibility, but I still turn them on given that I drive a silver car and want to be seen.

in relation to flashing lights being dangerous, what a load of toss. it can be used as a form of polite communication – like I did last weekend on the Hume Highway near Goulburn when I flashed a truck to move in front of me in the right lane so it could pass a slower car in the right lane.

caf caf 12:07 am 26 Jul 13

You can always subvert the flashers by flashing when there’s no radar trap yourself.

thebrownstreak69 thebrownstreak69 9:50 pm 25 Jul 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Anyone who warns others who are speeding that there is a camera or police ahead is a POS

You should have a cop.

460cixy 460cixy 9:50 pm 25 Jul 13

LSWCHP said :

Barcham said :

watto23 said :

Look it would be great to catch those people but what if headlight flashing slowed them down and they thus narrowly avoided hitting someone? That would be a positive. Even the most competent and best drivers do occasionally have a bad day, or get a headache/illness etc. that could cause them to suffer a lapse in concentration.

This.

The supposed goal of police, speed vans, and the road rules themselves is to increase safety. If flashing your lights makes someone slow down before seeing a van does, then that is a good thing.

Less people get hurt, more people drive safely. Safety is the goal and safety is what we get.

Also of note that the ‘warning flash’ is possibly the only example of human kindness I see on the road, where it usually seems that people are insane selfish beasts looking to devour each other, so I’m all for that too.

I see the OPs point, but I’m with Barcham on this. A flash of the lights may cause someone to slow down that one time it’s needed, preventing death or injury and that’s what it’s all about.

A friend of mine saw one of his friends hit by a car outside a school when he was young. He said his young mate was smashed to the ground, his head burst open and his brain rolled out across the street. That’s the reality of what happens when high speed metal hits young bodies.

Let’s all take it easy near schools. Or anywhere, really.

Spot on

JC JC 8:08 pm 25 Jul 13

Aeek said :

South Aus. is 25 km/h school hours or when children present. Maybe they don’t let their children run around all hours.

Same speed in roadworks too, and well enforced too judging by the numbers that do slow.

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