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Selection criteria writers in Canberra?

By davjp - 19 March 2013 44

Hi rioters, I am looking at applying for a promotion and have to do a selection criteria up. I’m awesome 🙂 but I’m not good at selling myself.

Has anyone used one of the many companies that write the criteria for you? If so any good ones to speak of?

Cheers

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Selection criteria writers in Canberra?
Genie 4:26 pm 19 Mar 13

“You have to do a selection criteria up”

Clearly your writing skills need improving.

Also #8 devils advocate. Have your worked as an EA?? They are the most under appreciated person in your office. Extremely underpaid too. God I’d hate to be your coworker.

Tetranitrate 4:24 pm 19 Mar 13

c_c™ said :

Part of the process of writing the selection criteria is your ability to respond relevantly and with concision.

I take it you’ve never applied for a role in the APS then?

Dork 4:15 pm 19 Mar 13

Devils_Advocate sounds like that person who jumps from entry level position to entry level position and thinks that they know everything.

c_c™ 4:09 pm 19 Mar 13

Part of the process of writing the selection criteria is your ability to respond relevantly and with concision.

If you can’t do that yourself, I’m sorry, but you’ve already failed one of the tests for the job. Don’t cheat others by outsourcing it. Focus instead on gaining advice and skills that will enable you to do it yourself better.

Pitchka 3:55 pm 19 Mar 13

FXST01 said :

Isn’t the APS selection criteria, where they hold a mirror under your nose and see if it fogs up?

WTF does that even mean?

FXST01 3:38 pm 19 Mar 13

Isn’t the APS selection criteria, where they hold a mirror under your nose and see if it fogs up?

devils_advocate 2:35 pm 19 Mar 13

artuoui said :

Madam Cholet said :

Just don’t write that you have ‘attention to detail’ and follow it with a spelling error. Biggest bugbear ever.
Remember, that if it is made up you’ll get found out pretty quickly.

But not necessarily before the probation period is up – and then it becomes their problem, not yours.

LOL, too true.

(assuming probation isn’t waived i.e. OP is coming in from outside, as opposed to getting a promotion).

devils_advocate 2:32 pm 19 Mar 13

Mysteryman said :

Responding to selection criteria is not difficult. A few minutes googling will provide you with links to useful advice. If you lack the ability to write an appropriate, consise written response, you probably shouldn’t be applying for the job.

My sincere apologies, but – based on my frankly extensive experience – that is laughable.

Firstly, most jobs that require lengthy, repetetitive and vague selection criteria do NOT require high-level or even adequate writing skills. Look at what is required for an EA job if you don’t believe me. Yet, unless you can wax lyrical about APS values and code of conduct, you won’t get a look in. Up until EL1 everything gets re-written multiple times as it works it way up through the bureaucracy, to the extent that actual writing skills are nearly irrellevant.

Secondly, in terms of relevance – most criteria are the same. Something on written communication, something on oral communication, something on teamwork, maybe ‘conceptual and analytical skills’ or some equally vague variation therefore, and maybe – just maybe, if they are particularly wank-worthy – something about leadership (not just for EL2s and above – I’ve seen it for APS 5s). The ‘generic’ ones massively outnumber the crazy one-offs like DIAC etc, so the optimal strategy is to draft the ‘one size fits all’ statement, and scatterbomb them around.

Finally – and I’m not sure I’m reading this right, so happy to be corrected – there seems to be some fear that if you get someone to write your statement, this could somehow be found out later on and used to your detriment. Please. Unless you go advertising the fact, there’s no way this could happen, and in any case the APS is so incapable of managing even gross incompetence there is no concievable way they could devote the resources required to first prove it, and secondly prove it was some kind of breach actionable by any sanctions.

/rant.

artuoui 2:24 pm 19 Mar 13

Madam Cholet said :

Just don’t write that you have ‘attention to detail’ and follow it with a spelling error. Biggest bugbear ever.
Remember, that if it is made up you’ll get found out pretty quickly.

But not necessarily before the probation period is up – and then it becomes their problem, not yours.

Madam Cholet 2:05 pm 19 Mar 13

Just don’t write that you have ‘attention to detail’ and follow it with a spelling error. Biggest bugbear ever.
Remember, that if it is made up you’ll get found out pretty quickly.

astrojax 1:14 pm 19 Mar 13

..and you don’t ‘write section criteria’ – you respond to them.

have a look at the job requirements and write a short para each on one or two examples from your work (and private) life that demonstrate you have the skill required or could patently acquire it and this is your response.

many jobs have criteria on communication and use the written application as some of the basis for their assessment of your written skills, so if you do get someone else to write the application for you you may be seen to be wilfully misleading the panel if you don’t decalre this within your submitted application…

Mysteryman 12:43 pm 19 Mar 13

zorro29 said :

actually everyone isn’t doing it and frankly, as someone who has to sort applications, it’s annoying when people mass apply for jobs with irrelevant junk. they stand out for the wrong reasons as they aren’t tailored to the role or agency.

if you need someone to write your applications to get past the screening process, maybe you should look for another job

Agreed.

In response to the the first poster – addressing selection criteria is not about “selling yourself”. It’s simply about showing the selection panel that you actually have the necessary skills to do the job. As someone who has to read through responses, I can tell you right now that unless you actually address the criteria in the context of examples from your working life, no amount of “selling yourself” will matter.

Responding to selection criteria is not difficult. A few minutes googling will provide you with links to useful advice. If you lack the ability to write an appropriate, consise written response, you probably shouldn’t be applying for the job.

zorro29 12:05 pm 19 Mar 13

actually everyone isn’t doing it and frankly, as someone who has to sort applications, it’s annoying when people mass apply for jobs with irrelevant junk. they stand out for the wrong reasons as they aren’t tailored to the role or agency.

if you need someone to write your applications to get past the screening process, maybe you should look for another job

devils_advocate 11:33 am 19 Mar 13

Don’t use a company. Outsiders don’t know the APS language.

Find someone that is at least one level, preferably two levels above the level you want to apply for, and ask them for their help.

And contrary to post #1, don’t feel bad about getting someone else to write it for you. At the risk of sounding like Lance, everyone else is doing it and you need to do it to in order to keep up. The selection statement just gets you through the culling process, you need to shine in the interview to get the job.

Final advice – don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Once you’ve drafted up a good set of general-purpose criteria, use them for as many jobs as you can and take a flexible approach to what jobs you want. I would suggest applying for a bare minimum of 4 jobs per fortnight, depending on what level you’re at (at EL2 or above the jobs become a bit thin on the ground).

zorro29 11:11 am 19 Mar 13

how about writing it yourself so you’re not giving yourself an undeserved advantage over other honest applicants

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